Talk:Slavery#Source gathering

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Change slave to enslaved person. More neutral language. Slave is not an inherit identity, enslavement was involuntary. 2600:1702:508B:B210:4452:2AB0:EFE8:8922 (talk) 00:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

:File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Tlx|Edit semi-protected}} template. [[User:CanonNi]] (talk|contribs) 01:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

::Just a non editor passing through. I didn't ask for this, but, can someone with more wiki skills follow the procedure to establish a consensus for this alteration? I think the original poster had a point and a consensus is worth pursuing. 173.222.1.130 (talk) 23:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

:::There's been a few discussions about this—I forget where, but I think there was one at the Village pump—in short, there's no consensus to mandate the use of one term over the other. Both terms are well attested in the reliable sources we base usage off of, and both can be argued to reflect different shades of meaning that may be worth emphasizing in different contexts. Remsense ‥ 论 23:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

:::okay but i need it very much so please try to help me 41.117.1.30 (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Why do you "need it very much"? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 15:57, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

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I request for all the references of the word "black African" in the History section to be changed to "sub-Saharan African" since Berbers are North Africans and they are not black. People from North Africa are Arabs or Berbers, while people from sub-Saharan Africa are black.2A0A:EF40:1395:D501:8105:2AA1:671E:3FE (talk) 20:28, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

:Can someone please answer my edit request. 2A0A:EF40:1395:D501:ED2A:8F7A:35B9:3AB1 (talk) 19:27, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

::{{not done}} This seems to be your personal preference. And like you already pointed out, it's used in references. Wikipedia doesn't dictate language. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 20:10, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

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I request for all instances of "black Africans" to be changed to "sub-Saharan Africans" because only sub-Saharan Africans are black and North Africans are not (North Africans are Arabs or Berbers by the way). Also there are only instances of "Europeans", not "white Europeans". 2A0A:EF40:1395:D501:188A:5F4F:8272:5A46 (talk) 15:34, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{not done}} Making the request again doesn't help. See the rationale above, your own preference is no reason to change the article. Please do not make any more similar requests, these will be reverted without further discussion. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 16:24, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

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I propose adding the following paragraph to the East Asian subsection of this Wikipedia article. This edit will provide the information necessary to be adequately educated on the subject, deterring the sidelining of Asian voices and experiences in the history of slavery. Indentured servitude is mentioned throughout the article, but is notably missing from the East Asian subsection. Proposed addition as follows:

The opium wars of 1830 forced trading posts open, which left China vulnerable to European use of indentured servitude. {{cite AV media |people=Loni Ding|date=2001 |title=Ancestors in the Americas |url=https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/ancestors-americas?frontend=kui |format=Streaming video|type=Documentary |language=English |access-date=2025-02-02}} Chinese laborers were tricked and entrapped into contracts by slavers called ‘crimps’, and sent primarily to the Caribbean and Pacific. High death rates, deceptive contracts, systemic abuse, and unmediated ‘extensions' of labor contracts rivaled chattel slavery. {{cite AV media |people=Loni Ding|date=2001 |title=Ancestors in the Americas |url=https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/ancestors-americas?frontend=kui |format=Streaming video|type=Documentary |language=English |access-date=2025-02-02}}{{Cite book|title=Strangers from a Different Shore: A History of Asian Americans|last=Takaki|first=Ronald|publisher=Little, Brown and Company|year=1998|location=United States}}{{Cite book|title=The Coolie Speaks: Chinese Indentured Laborers and African Slaves in Cuba|last=Yun|first=Lisa|publisher=Temple University Press|year=2009|location=United States}} Brooklynstudent (talk) 00:26, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I removed the list of films in the "Media" section (can be seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slavery&oldid=1289492521#Media here]) for two reasons:

• The list is WP:UNDUE, because it focuses on the films themselves, not on their depiction of slavery (different from the prose part of the section which should remain)
• The list is an arbitrary selection. E.g. why is "Gone with the Wind" missing ? Why is "Cervantes" included, which is not about slavery, but about the youth of Spain's most famous author ? Why should "The Birth of a Nation" be included, a film that denies the humanity and dignity of enslaved persons ?

Rsk6400 (talk) 06:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)