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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 17:19, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

; Lead

  • Colston's years alive are in the lead uncited, but do not appear anywhere else in the article, so they're kinda uncited
  • {{tick}} Added, reusing citation #2 for this. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

; Description

  • How many dolphins are on the plaque?
  • {{tick}}four (one on each corner). Added to text. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

; Controversy

  • "Cole stated that his aim was "to try to get people to think"" - Coles, not Cole
  • {{tick}} ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Looks from the picture like the sculpture took some damage (holes and breaking). Do any RS discuss this?
  • {{tick}} Added a bit on this but may need some further tweaks to the prose. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

This is all for the prose. I'm gonna have some referencing comments, but I've got to take a break now. More to come. Hog Farm Bacon 18:17, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

; References (ref numbers from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Statue_of_Edward_Colston&oldid=983539954 this revision]

  • Ref 6: Remove "BBC {{endash}} History", and then add the two authors and the publication date. Use BBC as the publisher, and drop the website field
  • {{tick}} partially by {{u|DeFacto}} - I've additionally dropped the website field in place of publisher. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Latimer needs the publisher, publishing location, and the OCLC
  • {{tick}} ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Bristol Radical History Group does not appear to be an RS
  • We can swap out the stuff they're verifying. They seem to be using a few very old newspapers etc as their source (eg the Bristol Mercury). There are archives of it [https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/titles/bristol-mercury here] for example, so I can swap those out for the direct source, but I don't have access to British Newspaper Archive to verify. Will try to ask if someone has access, or see if I can find another way to access. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Yeah, try WP:RSX if you need help.
  • So I've gotten access to the papers and swapped out the source. Basically, reading through, I gather the following: £407 was raised from appeals at the time the statue was put up. The Treasuer paid the £800 which it cost. Public appeals were made to collect the rest of the funds. At the end of 1985, £650 was collected. What came of the remaining £150 I don't know, it's not in these copies. Perhaps the debt was waived, or as the Bristol Radical History Group claims it was anonymously donated, but I can't find anything to verify it. Suggestions on what to do? I guess we'll just have to leave out the £150 part, and only explain up to the £650 we can source?
  • Yeah, we can only explain as much as the RS will allow us to. Hog Farm Bacon 18:24, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. May need to re-check prose on this section. Also if I've done the {{t|cite news}} right? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Wilkins needs the OCLC
  • {{tick}} ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • "A petition to remove the statue had garnered more than 11,000 signatures" - Close paraphrasing, the source says "A petition to remove it had garnered more than 11,000 signatures". That's way to close of paraphrasing
  • {{tick}} removed close paraphrasing. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • What makes Inspiring City a RS?
  • {{tick}} Nothing, I guess. It isn't verifying anything the other source isn't anyway, I suppose, so have removed. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Ref 77 - Drop the via parameter, and use BBC as the publisher
  • Via dropped. Just to clarify, do you mean change to {{para|publisher}}? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes.
  • Also looks like the other cites to "BBC News" currently are also using {{para|work}}. Should they all be changed to {{para|publisher|BBC}}? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I'd say so.
  • {{hiddenping|DeFacto}} One of my changes on this were reverted, see edit summary of Special:Diff/984912890. I'm not particularly familiar with cite templates, so not sure what the standard is. Comments? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • It's fine as it is, I guess. Not a big deal.

I did some more spot checks, which came up clean. Placing on hold. Hog Farm Bacon 21:25, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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