Talk:Statutory rules of Northern Ireland#Requested move 29 September 2024

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. A redirect from the proposed title to this article has been created as suggested. Dekimasuよ! 03:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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:Statutory rules of Northern Ireland → {{no redirect|Statutory rule of Northern Ireland}} – Statutory instrument (UK), Scottish statutory instrument, Welsh statutory instrument, are all named in the singular. [https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/content/102292 the gazette] refers to it in singular DotCoder (talk) 09:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

:Note: WikiProject Northern Ireland, WikiProject Ireland, and WikiProject Law have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

:Oppose The legal text is similarly named "statutory rules", therefore I am against changing. Cashew.wheel (talk) 10:38, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

::The title of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946 is in plural and the page on the actual instruments is Statutory instrument (UK). I don't see how this is different. DotCoder (talk) 17:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

::The general consensus is to use the singular, and there is no strong justification against.

::*Statutory instrument (UK)

::*Decree (Belgium)

::*State executive order

::*Executive order

::*Act of Parliament

::*Act of Parliament (United Kingdom)

::*Act of the Scottish Parliament

::*Act of Senedd Cymru

::*Act of the Northern Ireland Assembly

::*Act of Congress

::*Presidential proclamation (United States)

::*Decree

::*Presidential memorandum

::*Statutory instrument (UK), Scottish statutory instrument, Welsh statutory instrument [as mentioned]

::*Church of England measure

::*Ministerial order

::are all named in the singular.

::The general consensus across the world is to use the singular... Both for pages to do with the UK and pages to do with other countries. DotCoder (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

:Oppose The rules are made under the Statutory Rules (Northern Ireland) Order 1979. That uses the plural form for the rules. No need to deviate from the sources. But a redirect can be helpful, as they are cheap. The Banner talk 11:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

::I wrote the page on the Statutory Rules (Northern Ireland) Order 1979, so I am aware.

::The Statutory Instruments Act 1946 has the plural in the title, so I don't see how this is different. DotCoder (talk) 17:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

::Certain [https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2024/949/contents/made statutory instruments] and [https://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisr/2023/220/contents statutory rules] have "rules" plural in the title, so it can be confusing. In that case you could, I suppose justificbly, refer to the individual legislation as "a rules" for the singular.

::I think it's worth avoiding that confusion for the general case by being explicit about what the singular actually is. DotCoder (talk) 20:00, 6 October 2024 (UTC)