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Talk:Suleiman I of Candar/GA1

GA Review

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| result = Passed. Constantine ✍ 12:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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:This review is transcluded from Talk:Suleiman I of Candar/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: {{User|Aintabli}} 18:25, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Cplakidas (talk · contribs) 14:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Will take this on. Constantine ✍ 14:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

:GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
  2. :a (prose, spelling, and grammar): {{GAList/check|yes}} b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): {{GAList/check|yes}}
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  4. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
  5. :a (reference section): {{GAList/check|yes}} b (inline citations to reliable sources): {{GAList/check|yes}} c (OR): {{GAList/check|yes}} d (copyvio and plagiarism): {{GAList/check|yes}}
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  7. It is broad in its coverage.
  8. :a (major aspects): {{GAList/check|yes}} b (focused): {{GAList/check|yes}}
  9. ::
  10. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
  11. :Fair representation without bias: {{GAList/check|yes}}
  12. ::
  13. It is stable.
  14. :No edit wars, etc.: {{GAList/check|yes}}
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  16. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
  17. :a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): {{GAList/check|yes}} b (appropriate use with suitable captions): {{GAList/check|yes}}
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  19. Overall:
  20. :Pass/Fail: {{GAList/check|yes}}
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The usual suggestions for prose and context:

  • {{green|During Sultan of Rum Mesud II's first reign}} 'During the first reign of the Sultan of Rum, Mesud II,...' is more verbose but reads better
  • :{{done}}
  • Would Kilij Arslan or Ulu Arif Chelebi warrant a WP:REDLINK?
  • :Linked both.
  • ::Don't see Uluf Ari Chelebi. To clarify, it is not obligatory, just as a convenience for future article creation and linking. Constantine ✍ 09:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  • :Honest mistake. I remembered that he was also mentioned in Eretna's article, and added the link there. And then I forgot to do the same here. There are some significant sources with him as their sole focus: [https://iranicaonline.org/articles/celebi-calabi-aref-670-719-1272-1320-the-son-of-baha-al-din-soltan-walad-q][https://islamansiklopedisi.org.tr/arif-celebi] I absolutely think he is notable, and I will probably create his article soon. Aintabli (talk) 10:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Gloss atabeg, uch bey, faqihs, mevlevihane (for this I would even recommend using only a description, e.g. 'the lodge of the Mevlevi Sufi order' or similar)
  • :{{done}}
  • {{green|He was granted control of Kastamon}} last person mentioned is Yavlak Arslan
  • :It should have been Yaman. Fixed.
  • {{green|Upon the death of Suleiman's father}} can you add a date? And since his identity as Suleiman's father is established, I would suggest repeating his full name.
  • :No, I don't think there's an exact year when he presumably died. I've mentioned Yaman again.
  • Can you give some context on Eflani's location relative to Kastamonu? Near, far? West, south, east?
  • :{{done}}
  • For the average reader, it may be unclear where Mahmud ruled over (i.e., the regnal dates could be misconstrued as referring to Kastamonu)
  • :I've mentioned that he was the leader of the local Chobanids dynasty and moved the regnal interval after that remark.
  • {{green| until its last head's demise, Ilkhan Abu Sa'id (r. 1316–35)}} ' until the demise of its last ruler, Ilkhan Abu Sa'id (r. 1316–35)'
  • :{{done}}
  • Link vizier
  • :{{done}}
  • {{green|Suleiman vassalized Mu'in al-Din Parwana's son Ghazi Chelebi of Sinop}} if Ghazi Chelebi warrants an article of his own, then redlink him and avoid mentioning his father; otherwise perhaps something like 'Suleiman vassalized Ghazi Chelebi of Sinop, son of Mu'in al-Din Parwana. After Gahzi's death...'
  • :{{done}}
  • Localize Sinop and Safranbolu relative to Kastamonu
  • :{{done}}
  • {{green|as-Sultānu'l-a'zam}} needs to be included in the usual transliteration template (Persian afaict), and a gloss provided ('the Great Sultan')
  • :It should be Arabic. Added translations.
  • {{green|formidable}} in what? Appearance? As a scholar or mighty ruler?
  • :It's unclear, and it's actually somewhat a translation of the text, so I've added quotes.
  • ::Can you add who the quote comes from? Uzunçarşılı is referenced but does it come from him, or does Uzunçarşılı quote a third source? Constantine ✍ 09:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  • :It's from Uzunçarşılı, which I've now specified in the article. He does not cite a third source. Aintabli (talk) 15:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Identify al-Umari as a contemporary historian, and introduce al-Shirazi and İsmail Hakkı Uzunçarşılı
  • :{{done}}
  • Some context on the Mamluk Sultanate (e.g. '...the Mamluk Sultanate that ruled Egypt and Syria' or similar)
  • :{{done}}
  • {{green|Suleiman's reign}} I think you mean 'Suleiman's realm'
  • :That works as well, I think. Changed to "realm".

Once these are done, I'll do a source check for coverage and copyvios. Looks good otherwise. Constantine ✍ 11:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Cplakidas}}, sorry for the delay. Aintabli (talk) 08:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

::{{ping|Aintabli}} no worries. Most issues are done, only a couple minor ones remaining. Article looks good otherwise. Constantine ✍ 09:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

:::Pinging @Cplakidas to let you know I've tried to follow up on the remaining issues in case you didn't see my edits on your watchlist. Aintabli (talk) 23:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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