Talk:Sultanate of Rum#.40Qatarihistorian
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Merge proposal
{{Discussion top|result=The result of this discussion was merge. R Prazeres (talk) 21:13, 30 April 2025 (UTC)}}
Propose merging Anatolian Seljuks family tree with Sultanate of Rum (or Seljuk dynasty)
The Anatolian Seljuks family tree article seems to run afoul of WP:NOTGENEALOGY. But more to the point, if we have a properly-sourced family tree for this, why are we not simply including it at the relevant main article, Sultanate of Rum, or Seljuk dynasty if not? Why have a separate article for just one chart? The chart itself would also benefit from having the context of the main article. R Prazeres (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
:Seeing no further comment, I'm going to close this proposal as merge, per WP:MERGECLOSE, and make the transfer. Note that I'm not strictly sure if the family tree is supported by sources: there are two citations in the article, but they're attached to the short general summary before the tree (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anatolian_Seljuks_family_tree&oldid=1284960425 this pre-merge version]). I'll copy the tree as is, without the citations, but editors here are free to check, revise, or raise verifiability concerns. R Prazeres (talk) 21:11, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
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Vassal
The Sultanate of Rum was a vassal of the Great Seljuks between 1077 and 1157
Source:
- https://ets.anadolu.edu.tr/storage/nfs/TAR205U/ebook/TAR205U-12V3S1-8-0-1-SV1-ebook.pdf page 33
- https://belleten.gov.tr/tam-metin/2241/tur#:~:text=Aradan%20%C3%A7ok%20ge%C3%A7meden,1073)%5B10%5D
Kartal1071 (talk) 18:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
:What's the quote. I can't find. Also it is true that Suleiman Shah was a vassal of the Great Seljuks, but source for the rest? Beshogur (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)