Talk:Ukuthwasa/GA1

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Reviewer: Sawyer-mcdonell (talk · contribs) 19:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:@FuzzyMagma Hi! I plan on reviewing this article within the next 2 days. Super interesting topic. Ping me if you have any questions :) sawyer * he/they * talk 03:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Upon its review on March 5, 2024, this good article nomination was quick-failed because:

::it is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria,

thus making it ineligible for good article consideration.

This article did not receive a thorough review, and may not meet other parts of the good article criteria. I encourage you to remedy this problem (and any others) and resubmit it for consideration. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a Good article reassessment. Thank you for your work so far.

I am sorry to do this after my delay in starting the review, but I have to quickfail this GAN due to serious issues with sourcing. I'm concerned about the reliability of these sources:

• [https://www.2fastlovespells.com/what-are-the-signs-of-ukuthwasa-symptoms/ MAGIC SPELL CASTING ONLINE] which my browser won't even let me access, but is clearly not a reliable source
• [https://bestherbalisthealer.co.za/ukuthwasa/ Best Sangoma And Traditional Healer], which seems like a commercial website advertising these spiritual services, not a reliable secondary source
• [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Called_to_Heal/MDQ1qpkvKmMC?hl=en&gbpv=0 this book published by a New Age publishing company]
• [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Africa_in_My_Bones/d0r5eYM5YMsC?hl=en this book by an alternative medicine practitioner]
• [https://umsamo.org.za/ukuthwasa/ Umsamo Institute] which should be used as a primary source
• [https://search.worldcat.org/title/192134302?oclcNum=192134302 this book, which doesn't seem particularly academic]
• the multiple university theses & news articles, which although not unreliable per se, should be used with care

Together, these sources account for a significant portion of the article, especially the parts that talk about the rituals and religious practices themselves. There are a lot of really excellent academic sources used in other parts of the article, which I encourage you to use in place of the above-mentioned questionable sources.

I also have some other suggestions for the article:

• cutting down the lead - MOS:LEADLENGTH recommends around 2 paragraphs for an article of this size
• renaming the "From thwasa to sangoma" section to "process" or something similar
• the article could use more encyclopedic language, and general clarity of language when discussing the topic - Ukuthwasa is a culture-bound syndrome, but the article describes it as a "journey", a "traditional practice", and a "divination practice" among other descriptors. Using more academic sourcing may help clear this up. sawyer * he/they * talk 03:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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