User:SquisherDa#"Noob's progress"

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;Stage 0

::Education:

::*English private-school system

:::Schools a bit behind-the-curve as regards science-teaching

:::Unfortunately studying science was my aim in attending school

::*University: Oxford (Maths & Philosophy)

:::I seem (in hindsight) to have been accepted under an unannounced wider-access policy

:::- to which the College's maths tutors were not subscribers!!

::::- I wound up studying more law than maths!

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;Stage 1

::"First career":

::IT, initially in the National Health Service; then in Expert Systems and as a man+dog consultancy

::Unusual motivation, in that I wanted to release workers from drudgery

::- fun with the toys was secondary

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;Stage 2

::Temporary retirement, as a single parent

::This I loved, though there were difficulties

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;Stage 3

::"Second career":

::More directly people-oriented

::* Education etc in a Prison for c.15-18-yr-olds

::* Homelessness / hostel work

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responsive help/support

!style="width: 6pt;"| !!Aims-&-stages!!style="width: 55%;" |Observations

| mid-2009

| JUNE_2010

| JULY_2010

Thu-1

::*contribs (Talk:French .. in Mexico):

:::*suggesting new articles/links

:::*editing (rescue-work)

:::::- on another contribution

::*try watchlist

:::* note watchlist-checks on talk page

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:WP:TOPPOST rule:

::- baffling clash with . .

:::.. positioning of page-head items

::::: (warnings, notifications etc)

::::- (see eg User:Paolo.dL's experiences #4a)

:::.. Alt-Edit's presentation

::::- edit starts at the top of the page not the bottom

:::::::::::(see also Wed-9-May-'12)

::- (also adds to pause / delay in the Alt-Preview cycle!)

:drafting edit-summaries out-of-context feels weird

::- (ie without seeing the History page)

::- hard to judge abbreviations, dittos etc

:Watchlisting:

::: 7 days seems awfully short as a maximum . .

| Thu-8

::*update watchlist-checking log

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: . . but this idea didn't really seem useful / effective

:::::::: (see Sun-10- + Fri-15-June-'12 below)

| (?) FEB_2011

::*[ Bond credit rating ]

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:comprehensive / credibly authoritative

::- (why the "may need to be rewritten entirely" box??!!)

| (?) MAY_2011

::*[ Zopiclone ]

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:(for work)

| JAN_2012

c.18-Jan

::*[ Costa Concordia sinking ]

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:this is excellent

::- hard-news handling

:::- encyclopaedia-quality!!

:::- timely & comprehensive

::- analysis / specialist knowledge

:::- seafaring, ships, maritime industry

:::- commercial / financial

::- source-handling

:::- translation aspects

:::- (inter-)cultural aspects

| FEB_2012

Sun-5

::*talk-page contribs:

:::*Talk:Protein_homology: redirect / ?ambiguity

::::*create new talk-page

:::*Talk:Cytokine

::::* misunderstanding between editors?

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:WP:BOLD . .

::: without access to sources already cited??

| Thu-9

::*[ Streptokinase ]

::*follow up talk-page "welcome"

::::from User:Protein_Chemist!!

:::*set up dummy User:SquisherDa

:::*try out sandbox

:::*Wikipedia:Tutorial:

::::*Editing/Formatting/Links - contribs

:::::*ta to User_talk:Protein_Chemist

:::::*Talk suggesting links in Streptokinase lede

::::::*check out . .

::::::: . . β-haemolytic strep

::::::: . . Lancefield

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:"Please sign your messages" reads a bit harsh

::- am I being told I've failed to?

:::- ? more encouraging:

::::"When you add to talk pages . . "

:(NB nowt said re WP:New contributors' help page!)

:Welcome itself is a bit shoot-first

:::: ie Wikipedia:Introduction

::- at 2 it starts offering menus of targets

:::- before advising on target-selection!

::- 5 pillars seems strategic not tactical!

:Wikipedia:Tutorial recommends a path OK

:

:β-strep: very useful search / result

:- unique authority of Wikipedia as a source

::- article's talk-page

:::- supporting critical use-of-sources

| Fri-10

::*"welcome" > Wikipedia:Tutorial >

::::Editing/Formatting/Links > contribs cont

:::*ta to User_talk:Protein_Chemist

:::*(minor:) United Submitters International

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:::*Help:Editing/feedback

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:United Submitters:

::plenty of little ^{[## & boxes]} but no References section!

::WP:NPOV:

:::- knowledgeable contributor unable to deliver

:::- squalls of squawks from other potential contributors

:::- no-one attempting to rework content constructively

:::::::::::(cf Mon-9-Apr below?)

:Talk-pages issues . .

::. . when they're "over" / disposed of / now-just-history

::. . how best convey this to newcomers??

| Wed-22

::*"welcome" > Wikipedia:Tutorial cont

:::*sourcing-&-citing

::::*(WP:BOLDer:) Judicial notice

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:Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing_sources . .

::. . strong on editing to cite a source

::. . but what's the citation actually meant to look like?

:Judicial notice: concept worth grasping re WP:OR etc

::- clearly hasn't been grasped!!

| APR_2012

Sun-8

::*"welcome" > Wikipedia:Tutorial cont

:::*Editing/Formatting/Links cont

::::*get into discussion(s)

:::::*[ Cold Comfort Farm ]

::::::*contribs:

:::::::*Talk:Nancy Mitford

:::::::*User talk:Lacrimosus

:::::::*Talk:Laura Thompson

:::::::*Talk:U and non-U English

:::*sourcing-&-citing cont

::::contribs

::::- Talk:Waldseemüller map

::::- Talk:Fluctuation-dissipation theorem

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:Usual problems contributing:

::- what page to contribute on?

:::- (is the key recency / activity?

::::- rather than etiquette / expectation?)

:::- onscreen timelines of edits would be really helpful!!

::- what if no access to sources already cited??

:List of common misconceptions!

::::::: (re putative flow of glass)

| Mon-9

::*"welcome" >> discussion cont

:::* contrib: User talk:Kitty101423

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:informed committed contributor lacking NPOV

::- (cf United Submitters, Fri-10-Feb above)

:Wikipedia edit-wars cited in the outside world!

::- (see posted comments on source websites)

:? Edit-war vandalism response deploying

::- against victim of WP:CoI (marketing) vandal!

:Difficulties citing (UK) public-agency reports

::- WP:COPYOTHERS etc

:(UK) contributor struggling to attribute key points

::- ?WP:OR because media sources inexplicit

::- impact of UK anti-defamation culture

| Sun-15, Mon-16, Fri-20, Mon-23

::*"welcome" >> discussion cont

:::* contrib: User talk:Strebe / talk:Waldseemüller map

::::* check out major contributor's talk-p

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:translating a Latin title . . WP:OR!

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:how to decide what to put on what talk-page?

::- User's vs. article's

| Sat-28, Mon-30

:*"welcome" >> discussion cont

::* contrib: talk:Hepatitis B

::* contrib: talk:Waldseemüller map

:*[ RMS Titanic ]

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:Titanic lede clashes with body

::: re why not more lifeboats

::- outdated regs? vs design-basis + reasons!

:::- lifeboats piece is unnecessarily indecisive!

::- scaling-effects / nautical design . .

:::how convey centrality? within the article??

:::- naval architecture?

:::- Fisher re battlecruisers??

:nowt said re noise from vented boilers

::affecting command/control functions

::- eg lifeboats!!!

::- cf Lightoller's later testimony

::::re shouting into Captain's ear

:::- (BBC R4, Apr-'12)

::- source or WP:SYNTH presumably!

:RMS = "Royal Mail Ship"

::- case study in sourcing!

:::- unlikely to be challenged so . .

:::- need to know of a confirming source

::::: (though not to cite it)?

:::- or enough to be sure that a WP:RS must exist??!

| MAY_2012 '''

Thu-3

::* contrib: Cosmographia[e Introductio

:::* plan!

::::* sandbox:

:::::* check out #-lists

:::::* blank-line xpts

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| Fri-4

::*[ Jutland / Beattie / Jellicoe ]

:::*[ George Callaghan ]

::::*check out citation-needed tag

::::*contrib: citation needed

:::*[ Mahan ]

::::* contrib: "Flag" officer?

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:should I have put owt on the Talk-p too?

:should disambiguator-pp address likely misspellings?

::- searching for "Mahon" didn't work too well!!

:::- is searching via Google/Bing suitable? desirable?

| Wed-9

::*Mahan > reply[ing]

:::*check out major contributor's talk-p

:::*check out minor edits . .

::*check for Costa Concordia updates

:::*check out [talk-p] history cur / prev etc

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:connotations of "minor" seem to muddle some folks

::- would "sub-edit" be better??

:history-p layout takes a little getting used to

::::::::::::''(cf Fri-15-June below)

::- especially as it opposes WP:TOPPOST!

:::::::::::::(cf Thu-1-July-'10)

| Thu-10

::*reply[ing] re Mahan

:::*minor edits cont

::::*check out in-use tag

:::*check out zazzy signatures

::::: (@My preferences)

::*[ 1994 Aeroflot A300 loss ]

::*contrib: Cosmographia[e Introductio cont

::**check out lede

:Wikipedia:Help Project:

::would a "noob's progress" be useful??

:(try out "[Press to] Talk"?!)

:::::: (see Thu-31 below)

| Fri-11

::* build "noob's progress" log

:::* sandbox: layout xpts (tables) / log-building

::::* recent stuff . .

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:;— (NB log is wholly retrospective to here!) —

:::(from here it's a mix - till Sun-1-July, qv)

| c.Thu-17

::*[ Dorian mode ]

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:target-readership concept is essential to WP:CALC!

:- issues of identifying key/modality from score:

::cf above (15-Apr), reading Latin!

| c.Fri-18

::*[ Early Church etc]

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:* lot of impressive scholarship hereabouts

:* WP:CALC / Latin again!

:::- Ecclesia semper reformanda est

::::- reformanda/reformata

| Tue-22, Sun-27–Wed-30

::*[ paint ]

::*log >> recent cont

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:paint:

:- learned a lot that's useful

:- hoped to learn more re paint systems

::- functions/roles of primer, undercoat etc

:- application section / WP:NOTMANUAL

::- section noticeably skirts around policy!

| Thu-31

::*log >> recent cont

::*try out Press To Talk idea (Thu-10 above)

::*correct erroneous m-flag (ie reundo edit)

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:how about SquisherDa[[User talk:SquisherDa|

^{Press To
Talk}]]?

::- hmmm, maybe examine other folks' signatures!!

::- (eg in discussion-votes)

| JUNE_2012

Fri-1

::*"welcome" >> sourcing-&-citing cont

:::*sharpen (links etc) earlier contrib[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lacrimosus&diff=prev&oldid=486346188]:

::::::Lacrimosus talk-p

::::*check out warning-triangle

:::::: on talk-p link popup

::::*find out how to do diff links

:::::*contrib: Help feedback

:::::*checked out Wikipedia:Teahouse

::*log >> recent cont

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• strange that diff links are such a struggle / barrier

:- cf no-diff-no-dice culture

::(+ &diffonly=1 is neat!)

:::::::(but see also Sat-7-Jan-'17 below)

• a lot of WikiHelp stuff is buried pretty deep

:: (see Wikipedia:Help_Project/Community_fellowship)

:- pretty hard to find!

:- you have to be around a while to find it!

:- eg to find Wikipedia:Teahouse again . .

:::searched on [Sarah] Stierch!

• using 4-wibbles to update a signature

:::::::::::(but see also 7-July below)

| Mon-4

::*log > sandbox cont

:::*recent cont

:::*revisit pages visited

::::*contribs:

:::::*[ Talk:King's College School ]

:::::*User talk:Ka Faraq Gatri

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| Thu-7

::*log >> contrib: User talk:Kitty101423

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| Sat-9

::*log >> recent + revisits cont

::**reply (User:Dougweller) on my talk

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:re WP:SYN

:which page to contribute on?

:::::(later response, Mon-11, hints I'm still struggling!)

| Sun-10

::*log >> recent + revisits cont

::**check out Wikipedia, Reliability

:::*Wikipedia Review

::::*Siegenthaler incident

::::*Essjay etc

:::*tune watchlist

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:Essjay (2005-7):

::Wikipedia as victim of fantasist?

::alleged fantasist as victim?

:::- of entrapment by Wikipedia process(es)!

::Wikipedia model as a mental-health risk??

:::- to fantasy-prone personalities??

::Jimmy Wales - strategy of resolute delegation

:::- to Wikommunity

:::- to identify and articulate its own ethical principles

:::- cf later handling of the 2010 child-porn flare-up

:Watchlist isn't an alert facility

::- but 7 days is not a maximum

::- all option is available!

| Thu-14

::*log >> recent + revisits cont

:::* work up layout

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::hard vertical space in tables . .

::- sometimes respected?

::- sometimes overridden?

:::- copy centered vertically in cell!

| Fri-15

::*log

:::*revisits cont

:::*add early (pre-contributing) stuff

::*check Watchlist

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:"watchlist" means two things!!:

:- (a) the list of changes on pages included in ..

:- (b) the user's schedule of pages-for-watching!!

::- excellent layout! ''(cf Wed-9-May above)

:- (& I clearly had only 1 brain-cell deployed at first try!)

:::::::::::- (see Thu-1-July-'10 above)

| Mon-18

::*log >> early + revisits cont

:::*San Serriffe

::::*Tenerife airport disaster

:::::*Crew Resource Management

::*watchlist: King's Coll Sch / ‎Lo2u

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:disambiguation pages for acronyms?

::- Googling CRM didn't work

:::- gave me Customer Relationship Management!!

| Tue-19

::*watchlist: Talk:King's College School, Cambridge‎ / ‎Lo2u

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:valuable pointer to WP:DE from ‎Lo2u

| Thu-21, Fri-22

::*log >> early + revisits cont

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:a lot of policy stuff is much clearer at revisit

:- non-biting policy has some excellent detail

::- and User_talk:Paolo.dL has a powerful horror story!

:::- and Ignorantia juris has excellent read-on links

:::- how come no other admin(s) intervened??!

::::- to urge colleague to "quit digging"!

::::- clearly unBite no longer safeguards WP:BOLD

:::::- "as I said .., you needed to slow down"

:::- (is this Admininstrator still active?)

::::- "the Main Page has a 'help' link on it"

:::::- Gee, thanks!

:::::- does anyone ever see the Main Page?

:::::- know there is one, even?

::::- cf the remark about sheep

:::::- the silliest thing I can remember reading!

:::::::::::::::''(see Dec_'16)

| Sat-23

::*watchlist: Talk:King's College School, Cambridge‎ / ‎Lo2u

::*log >> early + revisits cont

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:case-study of policy in operation

::- successful operation? or unsuccessful?

::- three, maybe four areas

:::- unBite

:::- WP:NPOV / WP:CoI etc

:::- WP:RS

:::? intercultural (US/UK) differences

::::- affecting WP:RS, WP:COPYOTHERS etc

| Sun-24

::*watchlist: Endemic

::*log >> early + revisits cont

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:Watchlist is a virtual page (ie generated when accessed)

::- (available only) for user currently logged in

::- so not available via signature to indicate interests!

:Endemic is noted as needing sources

::- maybe carry some through from Epidemic?

| Wed-27, Thu-28

::*log >> early + revisits cont

:::*sourcing-&-citing

:::*Titanic / Naval architecture / drawing

:::::(File:Lines_plan_en.svg)

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:Wikipedia:Citing_sources has quite a lot of duplication

::- and resulting loss of clarity!

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: checking the drawing's talk-p is mighty confusing!!

::- contradictory screen

:::- in phrasing

::::- box: "Wikipedia does not have [such] a talk page"

::::- next box: "This is a talk page . ."

::::- much better: offer the user a click-button

:::::- explicit prompt:

:::::::: "Do you want to create a page?

::::::::: (see draft below)"

:::::- (maybe with the draft greyed-out?!)

:::- in intent

::::- mighty list of "things this page is NOT for"

:::::- is there anything such a page would be for??

:::::- if not, why present a draft?

::::::- (of a purposeless page?!)

:::- rephrase positively?

::::- offer the list as a table

:::::- col.1: "what you might be attempting"

::::::- (eg Test edits)

:::::- col.2: "what to do"

::::::- (eg Please go to Wikipedia:Sandbox)

:::::- final row:

::::::- "alternatively"

::::::- "click here to create a page"

:Shortcuts don't work altogether smoothly

::- WP:SHE4SHIPS presents as an unrelated screen

:::- titled "Section length"

:::- relating to WP:MILMOS#SECTLEN

::- better to list s/cuts in a right-justified crosshead?

::- on the line above the relevant section-title?

:::- rather than a (multiline) box?

| Sat-30

::*log >> early + revisits cont

:::*George Callaghan

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:Callaghan's not Alt-Findable via "Callaghan" as a search-key!!!

:Help:Userspace draft looks good!!

::unexpected tag to delete userspace page

:::- //db-userreq//

::::- ("Delete Because - USER REQuest")

:::- "etiquette ambush"! (= unforeseeable "etipoint"!!!!)

::NB also Help:Talkspace draft

:::: and other space-navaids

:Wikipedia:Rouge admin!

::- (? misspelling (? intended) of Rogue admin!)

| JULY_2012

Sun-1

::*log

:::*early + revisits cont

:::*transfer to my user-p

::::*check WP:UP for etiquette ambushes

::::*set up sections

::::*copy(-and-delete) from s/box

::::*include watchlist?

:::::*s/box xpts

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:;— (near(!)-contemporaneous from here) —

:::::::::(see above, Fri-11-May)

| Mon-2

::*[ Mrs Marple / Murder Made Easy ]

:::*Help:Searching

:::*Wikipedia talk:Wikilawyering

::*[ Muscular Christianity ]

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:- Search: "containing": where??

::- in the title only? or within the article itself??

:- Help:Searching needs some sub-editing

:- "Wikilawyering" really isn't a very edifying term

:- encyclopedia useful on Muscular Christianity!

::- pretty impressive!!

| Wed-4, Thu-5, Sat-7, Sun-8

::*log: links (& layout tweaks)

:::*Talk:King's College School, Cambridge‎ (@ User:‎Lo2u)

:::*Wikipedia_talk:Help_Project

:::*Peter Coombe's talk-p

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:amending an existing talk-contribution:

::difficult to add a further date to the signature

::::::::::::(but see Sat-14 below)

:(? within a table) (?eg) /br// works within link-|glosses

::- but (?eg) line-prefix : (for indent) doesn't

| Wed-11

::*logging / revisiting

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| Sat-14

::*linking / logging

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: adding dates to an existing signature: ~x5 does it

:::::::::(contra Wed-4 etc above)

: odd that default signatures have no prefixed dash

| Sun-15

::*[ GORD /

:::: Gastroesophageal reflux disease ]

:::*check out [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php|Revision history search]ing

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:very useful - esp re LPR / EERD

:some sub-eds (+ a broken-link fix) would be good

:section showing odd time-viewpoint path

::- (?) due to (?) keyhole edit

:::- following product withdrawal

:::- edit also lacks citations

::- text suggests (falsely) that it's been split by an edit

:::- affects context-nuances

:::- and thus authority / credibility

:interesting hints of US/UK differences of practice

:::- any chance of saying so? WP:RS likely?

:::- else WP:OR??!

:article history is also interesting

:- + content now missing looks valuable

::- (esp re ARB = GEV + LES)

| Sun-29

::*[ Trigger finger ]

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:extremely helpful

| Tue-31

::*[ Agatha Christie / archaeology ]

:::*Alt-Find Agatha's Path/Passage

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: successful Alt-Find via "containing"

::- though Agatha's Passage seems not mentioned!

| AUG_2012

Sun-5

::*set up jump-ahead to log in User:SquisherDa

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: (slightly pointless as the ToC provides this!)