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Thinker78 is a user, since late 2015, of a mesopedian editor of Wikipedia who started editing anonymously when the project came out in 2001. His first account was User:WonderingAngel-aesc78, but sadly he didn't continue editing with it and has since lost the password. He believes in doing an excellent job, fairness, rational and honest debate, admitting mistakes, and the necessity of giving explanations for one's actions. He doesn't like argumentum ad verecundiam, abuse of authority, nor undue censorship.

Among other things, he is an investigator,{{Efn|Non-government investigator, not a university-educated scientist, not a private investigator in the mainstream concept (https://web.archive.org/web/20200430051544/https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/investigator).}} a translator,{{Efn|By training but not certified (didn't do the exam)}} a former union official, an [https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-an-empath empath], a syncretist veg'n, and a free thinking skeptic. In college he was one of the top students in classes of Logic, Math, and Statistics. At one of his jobs, he was one of the best among 1,000 employees and top of his division.{{Efn|Even though constantly in conflict and at loggerheads with management due to his union position and duties, management itself recognized his work as one of the best in the organization. Following the status quo sometimes leads to usual and mediocre outcomes. Innovation and controversy is sometimes a most to improve things.}} Since he was a kid he has felt passion for the written word and its analysis. Sometimes in his life outside of Wikipedia he gets threats of torture or death for unknown reasons.{{Efn|An example: A random stranger on the street approached him and chitchats. Eventually the stranger told him to think things before getting left without skin.}} Maybe he tries to be too insightful, open-minded, and vocal for his own good.

NPOV and objectivity

File:Bacciarelli Themis.jpg, the goddess of Justice in Ancient Greece]]

Due to Thinker78's trying to be impartial and unbiased in his analysis and editing, sometimes editors tend to accuse him ironically of being partial and biased, more specially in controversial topics. This is because he tries to think and analyze independently, questioning what he thinks needs to be questioned and playing the Devil's advocate.

This, without trying to adopt, or make exception to his skepticism, the majority's position only because it is the majority's or popular position. This is not to say he won't adopt the majority or minority position if he thinks it is the proper thing to do based on logic and Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. These two latter for some reason in his opinion seem to be often ignored in favor of a single page's status quo or editors' personal opinions.

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Basic information

File:La tortura de Prometeo, por Salvator Rosa.jpg being tortured]]

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{{userbox|id=Image:Wikipedia-logo.png|info=This user has been registered in Wikipedia since November 29, 2015.}}

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Skills

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To do

= Regular actions =

Check daily:

  1. change online and mood statuses
  2. reset checklist
  3. watchlist
  4. tasks working on
  5. pending consensus
  6. pending other action
  7. planned tasks
  8. updated edits and bar
  9. change biweekly in the calends and ides (last, 17 March 2024; next, 1 April 2024).

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= Tasks in process =

{{Anchor|Working on}}These are some tasks I am currently working on, but not necessarily include all. Try adding no more than 3-5 at a time to avoid a long list.

== Time sensitive ==

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=== Discussions and RFC ===

In requests for comments, be concise, understandable, and provide option A and B if applicable. Before ending it, post about the consensus you think was reached, maybe pinging all editors who contributed. Follow "Pending consensus" procedure.

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== Not time sensitive ==

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=== Discussions and RFC ===

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=== Other ===

  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conspiracy_theory&diff=prev&oldid=1181057307 Revert conspiracy theory revert]. 22 Oct 2023

== Pending ==

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== Pending consensus ==

Implement changes after 7 days if there is consensus. After 7 days, if there is no editors' input in the relevant talk page thread and no sign of opposition to my latest entry, post a notice that change will be implemented in 7 days, per WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS.{{Efn|"An edit has presumed consensus until it is disputed or reverted. Should another editor revise that edit then the new edit will have presumed consensus until it meets with disagreement."}} But remember, per WP:TALKDONTREVERT, "Consensus cannot always be assumed simply because editors stop responding to talk page discussions in which they have already participated."

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== Pending other action ==

Tasks to do pending other action.

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= Planned tasks =

If you are a visitor in my profile page, you are most than welcome performing these tasks.

== 2019-2021 ==

  • Add section of the effects of United States foreign aidhttp://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-1009-foreign-aid-20171005-story.html

== January to June 2022 ==

  • Request inclusion of Wikiprojects in welcome templates to have more specialized support from new editors. 19:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Add persecution section to article Jainism. 17:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

== July - December 2022 ==

  • Open thread in relevant talk page to discuss adding guideline or information page advising that articles about politicians should have certain sections and information. 15:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Discuss in relevant venue whether Wikipedia:Closing discussions applies also to regular talk page discussions, per [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=1096805412 closure challenge]. 00:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Cerebellum.17:14, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Open a discussion in relevant talk page about process of closing regular talk page discussions. 23:16, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Add example for MOS:PRONPLACEMENT 15:35, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Work on article Yin and yang 19:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Analyze if there is correlation between COI edit request length and time in queue. 9 Nov 2022
  • Ask about adding info about Elliot interview in Roosevelt. 29 Nov 2022
  • Help modify Guatemalan laws about copyright, including adding freedom of panoramahttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#FOP_guatemala_is_all_wrong%2C_part_2. 12 Dec 2022

== January - June 2023 ==

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== July - December 2023 ==

== January - June 2024 ==

  • Create article about executions of Burrows and Tacklyn (killers of Richard Sharples) last ones worldwide under British rule. 19 January 2024
  • Follow up on ip's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Censorship_by_Google&diff=prev&oldid=1196092171 NPOV: Guardianship of article and censorship of talk page] - 25 Jan 2024
  • Work on modifying Non-defining characteristics. 27 Jan 2024
  • Publish in Village Pump ideas.
  • Use as general template the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Overcategorization&direction=next&oldid=174093804 former 2007 guideline]

Tasks done

These tasks only reflect some edits I planned on doing for later, which may be just a fraction of my total edits overall.

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{{done}} Cleanup Ricardo Quiñónez Lemus Finished 16:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

{{done}} Comment in controversy of talk page of Rape in Islamic law

{{done}} Add info of danger of high dose of vitamin c 16:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC) Finished 19:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

{{done}} Customize my signature 16:41, 23 August 2021 (UTC) Finished by 19 June 2022 (UTC)

{{done}} Move draft by coi editor. 05:31, 14 October 2021 (UTC) Finished 03:45, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
{{done}} Work on MOS:LEADSENTENCE to fix cluttering in example. 18:04, 4 January 2022 (UTC) Finished 02:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC) reverted. Done2 16:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

{{done}} Work on lead sentence of Vaccination policy.17:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

{{done}} Discuss Donald Trump article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump&oldid=1092157260Lead paragraphs] talk page section. 18:56, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
{{Done}} Add page history to Marquisate of Villena redirect and check my original page creation. 17:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC) Finished 23 June 2022

{{Done}} Add kb and words columns to table in MOS:LEADLENGTH (under the heading article length). 18:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Scheduled to implement on 27 June 2022. Done 27 June 2022.

{{Done}} Challenge in the proper venue the closure by Specifico of the "Political legacies" thread in the talk page of Donald Trump. 17:00, 30 June 2022 (UTC) Done 1 July 2022

{{Done}} Finish [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/How_to&oldid=1094830662 modifying instructions] in How to copyedit page of the Guild. 21:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC) Implement on 2 July 2022. Done on 3 July 2022

{{Done}} Contact administrator for advice regarding noticeboard "Political legacies" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=1096805412 closure challenge].17:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC) Do on 6 July 2022. Done on 6 July 2022

{{Done}} Work on lede of Nancy Pelosi. Done 8 July 2022

{{Done}} Work on lead sentence of Nicholas I. 18:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC) Done 10 July 2022

{{Notdone}} Discuss birth issue on lede of Elizabeth II 18:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC) Not done 10 July 2022

{{Done}} Check resolution of "Political legacies" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=1096805412 closure challenge]. 19:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC) Done 20 July 2022

{{Done}} Discussion in thread titled, Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#In a long lead, is it good practice for the first, short para to be a summary of the rest? 21 July 2022

{{Done}} Analyze discussion about change in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Seeking consensus for table modification. 21:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC) Done 20:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

{{Done}} Create page for Guatemala's Supreme Court President Silvia Valdés. 17:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC) Done 31 July 2022

{{Done}} Copyedit first sentence of Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal.16:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC) Done 3 August 2022

{{Done}} Work on lead of Haakon, Crown Prince of Norway, including reducing number of paragraphs. 21:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC) Done 5 August 2022

{{Done}} Archive my talk page. 5 August 2022. Done 5 August 2022

{{Notdone}} (better focus on consensus). New page reviewer. 18:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC) 10 Aug 2022

{{Done}} Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:MOS:LEADLENGTH table modification. 12 Aug 2022

{{Done}} Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia essays Proposal to change the scale 02:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC) Check activity of author, to post on talk page.

{{Done}} Talk:Louis X of France#First sentence 12 Aug 2022. Check RFC

{{Done}} Removal of my rfc publicizing from noticeboard 15 Aug 2022

{{Done}} Template talk:Leadcite comment 23 Aug 2022

{{Notdone}} (lack of time) Draft talk:Lauryn Evarts Bosstick 22 Aug 2022 (analyze notability)

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal&oldid=1109203388 Talk:Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal#The current first sentence is irrelevant] 13 Aug 2022 - 8 Sep 22

{{Done}} Work on Marc Dutroux16:19, 6 December 2019 (UTC) - 14 Sep 2022

{{Done}} Work on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations#Latin abbreviations 15 Sep 2022

{{Notdone}} (maybe not enough references) User:Thinker78/Pedro Perebal 12 Aug 2022 - 18 Sep 2022

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2021_Minar-e-Pakistan_mass_sexual_assault#RfC:_A_TikToker,_associates,_other_accused_constitute_'Public_figure'_or_not? RfC: A TikToker, associates, other accused constitute 'Public figure' or not?]

{{Done}} How to create a numbered list without indent? 25 Oct 2022

{{Done}} Suggest change in lead sentence of World War 1. 9 Nov 2022

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Muboshgu&oldid=1121341555 Appeal of removal of discussion] 11 Nov 2022

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tudor_Dixon&diff=1126195951&oldid=1126033737 Talk:Tudor Dixon] 19 Nov 2022 done 7 Dec 2022

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Guatemalan_Revolution&diff=1122340812&oldid=1121596197 Copyedit first sentence Guatemalan Revolution] 17 Nov 2022 done 29 Nov 2022

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:World_War_I&action=history Talk:World War I] 17 Nov 2022 Done on 16 Dec 2022

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rupert_Sheldrake&action=history Talk:Rupert Sheldrake#Positions in institutions in lead should be modified] 19 Nov 2022 Done 29 Dec 2022

{{Done}} A MOS:ALTNAME subsection duplicates function of MOS:LEADLANG 5 Jan 2023 Done 8 Jan 2022

  • {{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:World_War_II&diff=1132591255&oldid=1132578324 Seeking consensus to implement change in lead sentence WWII] 2 Nov 2022. Ended in consensus against on 9 Jan 2023
  • Input requested in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history&diff=prev&oldid=1128755252 WikiProject Military history] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_History&diff=prev&oldid=1128754052 WikiProject History]. 21 Dec 2022
  • Posted RFC Done 1 Jan 2023

{{Done}} Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Revert 24 January 2023 (original) Implemented 10 February 2023

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dependent_territory&action=history Talk:Dependent territory#UN list of dependent territories] 9 Feb 2023 - 16 Feb 2023

{{Done}} Work on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AManual_of_Style%2FLead_section&diff=prev&oldid=1150023583&diffmode=source MOS:REDUNDANCY] note. 14 Apr 2023 - 15 Apr 2023

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Neutral_point_of_view&oldid=1121001292 Achieving neutrality tweak] 10 Nov 22 - 12 May 2023

{{Done}} Categorize assassinated politicians by time. 25 Mar 2023 - 17 may 2023

{{Done}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AManual_of_Style%2FBiography&diff=1156448576&oldid=1155989112 Excessive clutter of Gaddafi example] 11 May 2023 - 22 May 2023

{{Done}} Create the article Eunice Dwumfour. 22 Mar 2023 - 27 May 2023

{{Done}} Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 27#Category:Assassinated politicians in the Americas 17 May 2023 - 7 June 2023

{{Done}} Follow up on revert at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:COVID-19_lab_leak_theory&diff=prev&oldid=1168345960 Talk:COVID-19 lab leak theory] - 3 Aug 2023 - 8 Aug 2023

{{Done}} Follow up on Wikipedia talk:Edit requests#Appealing a rejection - 12 July 2023 - 9 Aug 2023

{{Done}} Follow up on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdel_Aziz_al-Rantisi&diff=next&oldid=1170538328 Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi] references. 15 Aug 2023

{{Done}} Discuss modifying the first sentence of Oxford English Dictionary - 15 June 2023 - 15 Aug 2023

{{Done}} Close Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 381#Is NewsGuard reliable for checking accuracy of news sites? 25 Aug 2023

{{Done}} Create the article Ana Catalina Soberanis. 2 May 2023 - 6 Sep 2023

{{Done}} Add first women presidents to :Category:Women's firsts - 17 Sep 2023 - 4 Oct 2023

{{Done}} Create page for Guatemala's Supreme Court President Beatriz de León. 02:55, 1 Aug 2022 - 21 Dec 2023

= Discussions =

  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:North_Africa&action=history Talk:North Africa#RfC about the lead sentence] (Closing dispute) - 17 Sep 2023

==Categories for discussion==

{{collapse bottom}}{{Done}} Make map of Petén and its neighbors - 14 March 2024 - 15 March 2024

Templates

= Page and talk =

  • Footnote (pron is short of pronunciation)
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  • {{tlx|Non-diffusing subcategory|parent|specific}} Adds template to category page stating it's a non-difussing subcategory.
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= Issues and discussions =

  • Overly long first sentence
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mahatma_Gandhi&oldid=1148788217 Talk:Mahatma Gandhi#First sentence seems to be too long] 25 March 2023

Wikipedia philosophy and learning

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= Opinion about administrators =

Administrators are users who volunteer their time and who go beyond what a regular editor does. For that alone they deserve praise. But as any person imbued with authority, some administrators act in undesirable ways. For example, they may display the badge when there is absolutely no need to, specially when doing regular edits as any other editor. They may feel entitled to not be pointed out Wikipedia guidance by regular editors and may get annoyed, offended, or angered when an editor dares to do so, or worse if a regular editor dares to criticize them.

They may take unfair adverse actions against editors who they don't like or who criticized them or a fellow administrator, when the context permits it (like denying certain rights or permissions). And they may cover for each other just like police departments do. In some situations, even non-administrators may pile on editors who commit the sin of pointing out policies or guidelines to an administrator, like if they know it all, are above rules and can't make mistakes.

After all, administrators and the Wikipedia community are people too, and as people they have the same qualities and defects as society at large.

= Consensus vs no consensus =

Consensus in a discussion is the agreement or support of a proposal by at least a majority of participants who provided non-repeated reasonable arguments. This ideally reflecting objectively more weight of said arguments, which provides proper basis for a consensus decision.

No consensus occurs when there is an unclear balance in the weight of reasons regarding an action in a good faith discussion.

= Good advice from an administrator =

Sometimes, people just disagree. There is no one, singular Right® way, it is a matter of editorial preference. If you find that the majority disagree with you, you just accept it and move on. It doesn't matter that you disagree or why. Plenty of times I disagree with the consensus/majority, but it is just my life experience, my viewpoint, the way I learned to use the English language. Not everyone has the same background or preferences. Once it is clear that you are in the minority, it is best to just thank them for participating, and bow out. Everyone is on minority side of consensus from time to time.If I could offer some advice, it would be to work on being more concise. People are more willing to consider your perspective when you only use one or two paragraphs and keep it simple. Quoting policy or MOS doesn't really help; people like what they like. So present the before and after, and keep the "why I like this" down to a sentence or two, in plain English. Then they are more likely to read everything you wrote, rather than gloss over the extended reasoning and form an opinion prematurely. The point by point edits did you no favors. It is also more effective to say why your way is better, rather than focus on why the other way is wrong. Positivity often rules the day. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 18:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

= The status quo sometimes is wrong =

For a long time, years in fact, the page Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal had as status quo a first sentence that didn't reflect guidance of MOS:FIRST. It was more fit for the biographical page of Jimmy Savile and inappropriate for the article at hand because it didn't even mention the main topic, the scandal. When I changed it to follow the guideline, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal&diff=1102070160&oldid=1102039002 I was reverted]. I posted in the talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal&diff=1102172261&oldid=1070838295 about my rationale] but there was no input.

I proceeded to summon editors from the community at large in a Wikipedia:Requests for comment, which had [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal&oldid=1109054342 a lot of input]. The immediate and final consensus agreed with me, that the page had an inappropriate first sentence.

I didn't do something important: seek consensus to officially end the discussion and implement the change. This is recommended to be done even if it's your own rfc and the consensus about the change seems evident. This reduces the risk of outrage and incivility.

The moral of the story is that sometimes the status quo needs to be challenged, but challenged properly.

= First female governor in the Americas was from Guatemala =

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I learned that Beatriz de la Cueva was the first female governor in North America and all the Americas. She was born in Spain and was governor of the Captaincy General of Guatemala. Apparently, reading the List of first women governors and chief ministers, there was no other female governor in the Americas, for almost 400 years.

= Talk page guidance =

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== Enforced essays ==

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= New words learned in Wikipedia =

Betoken: To give evidence of.https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/betoken

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preterite: betokened,

past participle: betokenedhttps://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-betoken.html}} 21:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Bowdlerization or expurgation: Form of censorship that involves purging anything deemed noxious or offensive from an artistic work, or other type of writing or media. 22:04, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Guillemet: Pair of punctuation marks in the form of sideways double chevrons, {{char|«}} and {{char|»}}, used as quotation marks in a number of languages. 22:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Grognard: Veteran and most prestigious elements of Napoleon's Imperial Guard and Army.

Metonymy: Figure of speech in which a concept is referred to by the name of something closely associated with it.

[https://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/encyclopedia-of-early-modern-history-online/mirabilia-COM_024684 Mirabilia]: Plural of mirabile. Marvels or wonders.

Synecdoche: Metonymy in which a term for a part of something is used to refer to the whole.

Gadfly: {{Orange|Person who interferes with the status quo of a society or community by posing novel, potentially upsetting questions.}}

Etymon: Earlier origin word of another one (plural: etyma).

Metathesis: Transposition of sounds or syllables in a word, or of words in a sentence.

Panegyric: Formal public speech or written verse, delivered in high praise.

Psychopomp: Entity believed to escort deceased souls to an afterlife. 8 Feb 2023

Argufy: To argue without any aim. 29 March 2023

Deracinate: Uproot people. 29 March 2023

Ides: Middle of the month in the Roman calendar. 26 April 2023

Therianthropy: Mythological capacity to shapeshift.

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style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Hey there! This is for how nice you were on my page to such a newbie. Good on ya! Rexlikescheese (talk) 22:47, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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= Articles created or translated =

= First sentences edited =

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== Guidance ==

== FA ==

  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yasser_Arafat&diff=prev&oldid=1184358639 Yasser Arafat]

== GA ==

  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Butterfly&diff=1135446218&oldid=1126494014 Butterfly]
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muammar_Gaddafi&diff=prev&oldid=1154527144 Muammar Gaddafi]

== Others ==

  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Campylobacter&diff=prev&oldid=1177551334 Campylobacter]
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Parrot&diff=1177877571&oldid=1177786070 Parrots]

Timekeeping

  • It took me almost 12 hours throughout a week to work 22 edits or 246 words of "readable prose size" of the article 1990s—on average, about 2 edits per hour, half an hour (0.5h) per edit (including research), or 20 words per hour, 3 minutes per word. 22 April 2022
  • It can take me 2 hours of analysis to reply to a talk page post.

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Challenges

June 22, 2018: Transclusion. In Talk:Noah's Ark#Myth vs account or story controversy, it took me more than two and a half hours to figure out how to properly format it, given that initially text was just copied from the help desk to the talk page of Noah's Ark. Initially I was just looking at which way was more proper to indicate that text was "moved". I thought about hatnotes, but I spent a long time analyzing the guideline to see if it was proper use. I figured out that I could use a transclusion hatnote. But soon I got embroiled in finding a way to indicate which text was actually moved, because a new discussion was started. I found out about boxes. But then I realized I would have to actually transclude the text. Which I finally managed to do, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Noah%27s_Ark&diff=prev&oldid=847003704 transcluding the text]. Yay!

Hall of fame

= In memoriam =

User:Ed, reportedly a 14 year-old editor with thousands of edits, founder of Wikipedia:Esperanza, WikiProject International relations, WikiProject Lists. Inspiring!

= Longest threads I have walked in =

  1. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2021_Minar-e-Pakistan_mass_sexual_assault&oldid=1110298862 Edit dif 1104699210] and its related RfC: A TikToker, associates, other accused constitute 'Public figure' or not? By User:Bookku. More than 14,500 words. Update: 1,800 more words! With User:USaamo in continuance of the saga! (15 Oct 22).
  2. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Anakin&oldid=1112956354 A mountain out of molehill?] By 45.136.197.235 and mention of Sideswipe9th and Softlemonades. Around 7,000 words.

= Interesting images =

Sergey Skorochkin.jpg | Sergey Skorochkin

File:Yokoi Shonan.jpg | Yokoi Shōnan

Funny!

  • "Moose? A 'common household pest'. Really? All over the livingroom, are they?" Comment made by Anna Frodesiak (talk) on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_common_household_pests&oldid=701691883 List of common household pests], on 26 January 2016 (UTC).
  • "Hello.! Im Lucas and im new here. I just wanted to know, how to contact sumerians, ive got few questions to them and was just wondering how you talk ti them." Anonymous IP. 01:49, 1 July 2023 (UTC). At [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Acroterion&action=history User talk:Acroterion]
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Warnings

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= Historical =

== Ignorance and murderous savagery ==

Contemporary accounts state Mongol soldiers looted and then destroyed mosques, palaces, libraries, and hospitals. Priceless books from Baghdad's thirty-six public libraries were torn apart, the looters using their leather covers as sandals.Murray, S.A.P. (2012). The library: An illustrated history. New York: Skyhorse Publishing, pp. 54. Grand buildings that had been the work of generations were burned to the ground. The House of Wisdom (the Grand Library of Baghdad), containing countless precious historical documents and books on subjects ranging from medicine to astronomy, was destroyed. Claims have been made that the Tigris ran red from the blood of the scientists and philosophers killed.Frazier, I., "Invaders: Destroying Baghdad," New Yorker Magazine, [Special edition: Annals of History], April 25, 2005, [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/04/25/invaders-3 Online Issue] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180612220230/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/04/25/invaders-3|date=2018-06-12}}Szczepanski, Kallie. "How the Mongols Took Over Baghdad in 1258." ThoughtCo. https://www.thoughtco.com/the-mongol-siege-of-baghdad-1258-195801 (accessed February 10, 2021). Citizens attempted to flee, but were intercepted by Mongol soldiers who killed in abundance, sparing no one, not even children.

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External links

  • [https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2540682009/?playlistId=tt0088979&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi Nice movie: Daryl]
  • [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC7ag6CqRus Humanity] - Music for the spirit or mind
  • [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GctVS0fIoJ4&list=OLAK5uy_k9jxbBikw8--1jTqZs-d0noq1lVlfQ3ZI Hell shall perish] - Epic and ecstatic song

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