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{{Wikibreak|Eric F|when released from prison.}}74.60.29.141 (talk) 03:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hey there Eric. I had seen your message on Worm's talk page, and figured that since he knew more than me I'd let him advise you. You seem to have it handled, which is just as well, since he's busy. If you ever need get stuck on this situation though, or I can be of any help, my talk page is always open. Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 00:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for dropping by. I noticed your grammatically-correct usage of "Problematic". -- Good catch!

:I'm still in the process of learning the ropes around here. I must admit that for me, navigation{{where?}} has become a somewhat problematic issue. ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 16:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

::Yup...it certainly isn't easy, and especially since I don't think you (as an IP) can use a watchlist, right? I almost never leave that... Well, like I said, if I can help at all... Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 20:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

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Not sure if you got the answer to this... as far as I can tell, {{tl|cot}} on Commons relies on :Commons:MediaWiki:CollapsibleTemplates.js (loaded via :Commons:MediaWiki:Common.js). En.wp has some equivalent "collapsible tables" code in MediaWiki:Common.js, but evidently it doesn't work quite the same way. Rd232 ^talk 22:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

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...I believe the {{tl|nowrap}} template might be better in this case since the non-breaking space would require a space between the parts of her last name, which is what's wrapping onto a new line. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

:Okay. The nowrap template should work, but the instructions are unclear on one point: would I be able to put the template at the beginning of the page and include a list of names there, or would each name require its own template. Keep in mind that the names are already nested within table template, and may (later) be nested within a collapse template. In other words, where would I use the template? Actually, the "non-breaking space" sounds intriguing, is that a character that looks like a space, but acts like a regular character? {{keypress|~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 07:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)}}

::The non-breaking space is normally used when a date... 7 April 2012 ... is prevented from splitting into two lines of text. The style guideline is at WP:NBSP.

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I really appreciate your involvement in the Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri article. If you still think the SMAX material should be separated out for clarity, start a new section on the article's talk page (titled SMAX section). I think we could put the SMAX material in the last section (there was a Legacy section the last time I read the article) and refer to that section in the preceding sections. While I think we need to show significant improvement to get the article upgraded, I want to be careful we don't lose the GA status. Vyeh (talk) 01:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for the table. I'd like to hear Nolelover's comments and then we can proceed. Vyeh (talk) 12:48, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Copied From User_talk:Drbogdan#Deep-sea_exploration

Deep-sea exploration

Since you seem to be a principle editor for this page, I'd like to refer you to my question on the talk page. If the answer is "no", please leave a note on my talk page (I'll need to make some changes). Thanks, and regards, {{keypress|~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 20:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)}}

:@Eric F - Thanks for your recent comment - Please understand that I'm more a casual editor, than a principle one, for the Deep-sea exploration article - nonetheless, you've asked some very good questions - according to Wikipedia -> "The 'deep sea,' or deep layer, is the lowest layer in the ocean, existing below the thermocline and above the seabed, at a depth of 1000 fathoms (1800 m) or more." - also, according to Wikipedia -> "The wreck of Titanic remains on the seabed, gradually disintegrating at a depth of 12,415 feet (3,784 m)." - thus, the Titanic wreck would be in the "deep-sea" I would think - finally - based on the above, the Titanic wreck would qualify as a "Milestone" of Deep-sea exploration as far as I can see - but that's my opinion fwiw - hope this helps in some way - Thanks again for your comment - And - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 21:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Eric. I'm sorry I never actually got back to you on your story. I kept meaning to reply then it disappeared off my page. You don't actually need an email address to register at wikipedia. It's helpful as it allows you to recover passwords and be contacted by other editors, but it's by no means a requirement. All you need to do is choose a username (I believe User:Eric F is free!) and a password, and you're there. As for round tuits, I always thought they might be something to do with Radio 2's Round thing... but then I think that was just me showing my age... Worm^TT · (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

:Also, I'm afraid I've removed a few uses of :File:Einstein_tongue.jpg which you can't use all over the place due to fair use. Sorry! Worm^TT · (talk) 13:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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No problem! Honestly, it took me re-reading it four or five times before I could figure out why something didn't seem right about it. Rickie-d (talk) 17:16, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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A novel titled AtlantisHauptmann, Gerhart; Atlantis (1912), New York, B.W. Huebsch. Library of Congress: PZ3.H294 A was written by Gerhart Hauptmann and published in November of 1911, five months prior to the Titanic disaster. Atlantis is a romantic tale set aboard the fictitious ocean liner Roland, which is coincidentally doomed to a fate very similar to that of the RMS Titanic. A Danish silent film also titled Atlantis was produced based on the novel. The film was released less than a year following the actual tragic event, and the association became evident. The timing of the film's release was perceived to be inappropriate and the film was banned in Norway.Pedersen, Sune Christian, [http://www.teponia.dk/museumsposten/index.php?artikelid=128 The Titanic Myth]

, Post & Tele Museum of Denmark, 3rd quarterly, (2001) ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 08:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

:The "first printing" date is November 1912, but this is for an English translation by Adele and Thomas Seltzer, which presumably would be sometime after first publication (German). If anybody knows how to find month/year of publication, please leave note on talk page -->{{keypress|~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)}}

::There is no contradiction there. The book you are citing is an English translation of the original. The first printing for the American version was November 1912. (Notice the "Translated by Adele and Thomas Seltzer" on the cover page. Also notice the original copyright for the German publisher above the American copyright.) Gerhart Hauptmann was a German author. Hauptmann's book was published in Berlin by S. Fischer Verlag a month before the Titanic sinking. (He also would have been writing the book for quite a while prior to that.) It can take months to publish a proper translation of a novel -- especially of someone who had just won the Nobel prize in literature. Thus, there is the difference in publication time between an English translated version and the original book. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 18:42, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

:::However, it does seem that the first publication was not in its bookform. According to these two sources:

:::*{{cite book | title=Gerhart Hauptmann und der Film | first=Sigfrid | last=Hoefert | publisher=Erich Schmidt Verlag | year=1996 | language=German | page=10}}

:::*{{cite book | Gespräche und Interviews mit Gerhart Hauptmann | first=Gerhart | last=Hauptmann | page=51 | language=German | publisher=Erich Schmidt Verlag | year=1994}}

:::The book was preprinted by Verlag in a serialized form in the Berliner Tageblatt newspaper between January 16 and April 24 1912, prior to it being released in its bookform. I would suggest the text be restored but corrected to reflect the sources, including these:

:::*{{cite book | title=Understanding Gerhart Hauptmann | first=Warren | last=Maurer | page=76 | publisher=University of South Carolina Press | month=October | year=1992 | ISBN=9780872498235}}

:::*{{cite book | title=Gerhart Hauptmann and John Galsworthy: a parallel | first=Walter | last=Trumbauer | page=10 | publisher=University of Pennsylvania | year=1917}}

:::that discuss the publication prior to the Titanic disaster. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 19:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

::::Note to self, for ref: Gerhard Hauptmann was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature on 10 Dec 1912.{{cite web | title=Nobelprize.org Nobelprize.org 19 Apr 2012 | http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1912/press.html}}

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In 1912, the German Berliner Tageblatt newspaper published a book in serial form that ran from January 9 until April 24.{{cite book | title=Gerhart Hauptmann und der Film | first=Sigfrid | last=Hoefert | publisher=Erich Schmidt Verlag | year=1996 | language=German | page=10}}{{cite book | Gespräche und Interviews mit Gerhart Hauptmann | first=Gerhart | last=Hauptmann | page=51 | language=German | publisher=Erich Schmidt Verlag | year=1994}} This work of fiction was written by Gerhard Hauptmann, who would receive the Nobel Prize in Literature later that year.{{cite web|last=Hauptmann|first=Gerhart|title=The Nobel Prize in Literature 1912|url=http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1912/press.html#|publisher=Nobelprize.org|accessdate=19 April 2012}} One month before the fateful April maiden voyage of the RMS Titanic, the story was published by S. Fischer Verlag as the novel Atlantis. Atlantis is a romantic tale set aboard the fictitious ocean liner Roland, which is coincidentally doomed to a fate very similar to that of the RMS Titanic. This perceived anticipation of the Titanic disaster received considerable attention at the time.{{cite book | title=Understanding Gerhart Hauptmann | first=Warren | last=Maurer | page=76 | publisher=University of South Carolina Press | month=October | year=1992 | ISBN=9780872498235}} A Danish silent film also titled Atlantis was produced by Nordisk Film based on the novel. The film was released less than a year following the actual tragic event, and the association became evident. The timing of the film's release was perceived to be inappropriate and the film was banned in Norway.Pedersen, Sune Christian, [http://www.teponia.dk/museumsposten/index.php?artikelid=128 The Titanic Myth]

, Post & Tele Museum of Denmark, 3rd quarterly, (2001)

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|Done. 03:34, 15 May 2012 (UTC) }}

I used an online translator to translate the German article on Willy Stower. I pasted it for you here: User:Canoe1967/sandbox. --Canoe1967 (talk) 23:58, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

(moved to article) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.26.28.41 (talk) 20:22, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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Coming soon: Willy Stöwer legacy section ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 02:32, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. I came across a higher resolution image is all. I didn't realize that the low res one had signifigance. Please revert and leave a really nasty-chew-my-ass-out type comment.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

:Try this photo storage?

• http://www.picatom.com/

I looked at many online free ones. This one allows larger sizes and no login or account needed. I also reverted that image and left comments on the image and talk page.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

• [https://picasaweb.google.com/115416371017071878741/StowerMay72012?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCODH4o6F-LvR8gE&feat=directlink Link to Picasa Album] ~E 98.26.28.41 (talk) 22:22, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
• [http://www.picatom.com/26/St246wer_Titanic-1.html Link to Picatom] ~E 98.26.28.41 (talk) 01:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
• [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j3ODRce3gvA/T6hIzE5mMtI/AAAAAAAAAHI/zQqkwpHEqwY/w462-h316-k/St%25C3%25B6wer_Titanic.jpg Direct link to image?] ~E 184.76.225.106 (talk) 06:59, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

::I uploaded one of the images. The thumbnail in history looks the same, but the image has less brightness. Is that the correct one now?--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:41, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

:::Thanks! Looks great -- thumbnail is fine, I think it takes time for things to change, or perhaps it has something to do with browser cache. It's possible that there is a better tweaked image somewhere, but this is fine. (I have several versions that I have been working on, trying to "restore" as close as possible to an original print from Die Gartenlaube). Thanks, again ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 22:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Are there any of the original prints out there? Find a wikipedian in that city to photograph one? I have the signature image, do you want that uploaded as well?--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

:Here is a [http://shop.billerantik.de/popup_image.php?pID=12117/imgID=0&XTCsid=23ddcfd40c40224b4f60649c9156a214 photocopy of an original Die Gartenlaube print] from the 1912 German magazine -- it was a "folio" -- notice the fold in the center (an original "centerfold" -- not quite the same as a Playboy centerfold) -- note, that the sky is rather dark, unlike most of the ones on the internet where the contrast and brightness has been "improved". My attempt at "restoration" is to get as close as possible to an original like that one. I am tempted to use the above image, but the resolution is rather poor. That is the only image I've been able to find of an original lithographic print. Even though the magazine had a circulation of 2 to 5 million -- but that's in Germany 100 years ago -- that issue is hard to find. Actually, I'm tempted to buy [http://shop.billerantik.de/products/Alte-Drucke/Holzstiche/Marine-Seewesen/Der-Untergang-der-Titanic-gezeichnet-von-Stoewer-1912-ORIGINAL-HOLZSTICH-G54.html that copy from here], (about $40).-->(Too late -- sold). ~E 184.76.225.106 (talk) 17:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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:You may spend less if you restore a good one and have it printed. I took a nice picture of a big horn sheep that I am getting done for about 40-50CDN. File:Watermark sample.jpg--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

::My goal is to get a decent image for WP -- it's amazing how many copies were used recently on news sites, etc. Virtually every article relating to the Titanic anniversary had that image -- and most of them were copied from WP. Ideally, there should be an image with high enough resolution to show the wood-engraved technique. Here is an example of a close-up detail from a similar Stower print in Die Gartenlaube: [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C8aqkiYiIcc/T7aQEDLfvAI/AAAAAAAAAL4/1LXq3tbUnMM/s512/220_D-etching-detail.jpg Etching detail] (From RETTUNG_AUF_SEE_LEUCHTBOJE_WILLY_STÖWER_HOLZSTICH_W220-1898) --

To get an idea of what is possible, check out this Stower image from the same publication, on Wikisource.de: [http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Datei:Die_Gartenlaube_%281893%29_b_197.jpg Der Gang nach dem Osterwasser] (1893) -- (unusual Stower subject matter). ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 00:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

:That does look very detailed. You would need to possibly find a copy that was made from the original woodcut I would think. All the ones we seem to have are from the magazine low rez image. If you zoom in on the sheeps eye you can actually see the reflection of our silver pickup. Everyone that does thinks that is amazing focus and resolution.--Canoe1967 (talk) 03:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

It would be great to have that signature uploaded for the article -- I noticed that infobox-artist has a parameter for signature file (I "created" that one from his signature on a book cover). ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 23:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

:Both those images look like they have the fold line. Are there no copies in museums etc. that are closer to the original woodcut? I will upload a signature file for you, I just need to find the signature template for commons.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:58, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

::Can you edit in the description, source, etc?--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:11, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Willy Stower signature.jpg

:::Done -- I believe the description etc. is as accurate as I can make it, but am uncertain if I did it correctly, especially the [http://www.metropostcard.com/picssigs/as-stowerw.jpg.jpg link to "other versions" from metropostcard.com] <--should that be uploaded too? That version is typical of his signature on illustrations, the one I generated is typical of his signature on paintings. I haven't found any examples of his signature from documents, etc. I personally prefer the one already uploaded, but the one from metropostcard is also good. ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 04:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Willy Stower signature b.jpg--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:52, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, everybody!

My participation on WP is likely to be very limited for an undetermined amount of time. I will check this page occasionally, but might not be able to respond promptly. ~Eric F 98.26.28.41 (talk) 19:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)