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Hi,

I need your feedback about a source. [http://unbound.intrasun.tcnj.edu/archives/lifestyle/old/buddha.html This article] addresses the issue of Adam Yauch's religious adherence pretty explicitly. It stated, “The 27-year-old Jewish-born rapper wants to maintain his Jewish traditions and calls the conversion spiritual, rather than religious.”

Does this mean something?  Brendon is here 10:47, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

::WP:CAT/R says, "For a dead person, there must be a verified consensus of reliable published sources that the description is appropriate" is it applicable in that RfC?  Brendon is here 11:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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:It is probably best to upload a more recent image of Johns - per this discussion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jasper_Johns#Free_images]...Modernist (talk) 20:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the support on this fracas at the Freud page. I did submit this problem to "Editor assistance," but I have not gotten any responses. If I can be of help to restore a bit of neutrality to the Freud lead, I am happy to do it, and I know more than enough about Freud and all the related epistemic issues to be helpful, but I don't have time or energy to fight off an editor like Polisher of Cobwebs. Even if I did, I feel pessimistic that the restoration of balance would remain indefinitely on a page that treats such a divisive topic. The Freud page used to be "good" and is no longer--what would safeguard against it becoming bad again, even if I improve it? Certainly I cannot devote the same level of vigilance to it that Polisher of Cobwebs does. If you have further ideas for how to proceed or want further input from me, let me know, I guess at my Talk page? Will that generate an email alert to me?Hypoplectrus (talk) 21:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

:Hypoplectrus, it is not a good idea to suggest, even by implication, that other editors are insane. If you haven't gotten any responses at Editor assistance, then that's because you're going about things the wrong way - you're expecting other editors to automatically agree with you about quite controversial issues, and it just doesn't work that way, I'm afraid. That you talk about "fighting off" other editors shows that you are approaching disagreements in the wrong spirit, and that's a turn off for all concerned. (And incidentally, the Freud article was already deemed not 'good' when I started working on it). Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 22:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

::Disagreement is part and parcel of the activity of collaborative editing. It is how one goes about it that matters. While one should be clear on where one stands, one should attempt to be low key. As I pointed out in my post [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=497583647 here,] I find [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sigmund_Freud&diff=497163367&oldid=497161363 this] type of post, reading: "If you cite Eric Kandel's views in the lead, I will remove them", to be unnecessarily provocative. (I changed the section title here on my Talk page. It used to read, "Insanity at the Freud Page.") Bus stop (talk) 02:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

:::I can understand why you might feel that way, Bus stop, but I wasn't trying to be provocative. Hypoplectrus made clear what material he wanted to add to the lead, and I made it clear that I didn't think that material was suitable for the lead. It might have come across the wrong way, but I was simply trying to be honest and direct. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 02:45, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

::::Please see WP:OWN. Bus stop (talk) 04:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

:::::It's quite clear to any rational observer which of the two users involved in this disagreement--myself, Hypoplectrus versus Polisher of Cobwebs--has expressed an openness to dialogue and which one has refused to and with remarkable hostility. You can see that on the Freud Talk pages, but you can also see Polisher of Cobwebs's harassment and intimidation tactics in action right here! Polisher of Cobwebs has not only reverted all my edits to the Freud lead without any willingness to compromise, he follows me to any Talk page I go to and attempts to interfere with my communications with other editors. If Polisher of Cobwebs is so confident that he is in the right regarding his conduct and I, Hypoplectrus, is in the wrong, and so confident that the system here at Wikipedia will bear that out, then why doesn't he just let the system take its course? Obviously, Polisher of Cobwebs is afraid that without managing the discussion anywhere and everywhere it arises, by what they seem to call here at Wikipedia harassment, hounding, uncivility, etc., he will not be able to retain exclusive control over the debate and over the Freud article lead. It seems that he is having great success with this approach (which he will contest in approximately 5 seconds, 4 3 2 1...) and that reflects the vulnerability of Wikipedia to abuses at the hands of the abusive. Polisher of Cobwebs, I am not at present making edits to the Freud page, because you have made it impossible for me to do so, will you kindly leave me alone?Hypoplectrus (talk) 14:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

::::::Bus stop, does it make sense at this point to request outside review of Polisher of Cobwebs's User conduct? You are more experienced editing Wikipedia than I am (yes, I know, Polisher of Cobwebs, you are more experienced with Wikipedia too, if not with common courtesy). Please advise.Hypoplectrus (talk) 15:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

:::::::In my humble opinion continued work on the article and its associated Talk page is the best course of action. That is purely my personal perspective. The downside is that it's a long slog. But in my opinion your best bet at improving the article is to present your case persuasively, including sources of course, on the Talk page, and then to introduce that material which relates to Talk page discussion, to article space. I think the aim is to let other editors know what prospective changes are being contemplated, and then to let other editors see the actual form that you envision that material to assume in the article. This approach involves other editors in an informed way as to the nature of the direction that the article may take. It is all about persuading other editors of the wisdom of the approach that you envision. But yes, it is time consuming. I'm just not a big fan of Wikipedia's drama classes. So I tend to avoid trying to prosecute people for conduct issues. I don't like to see one or a few editors maintain control over such an article as the one we are discussing. I find it refreshing to see new input and I don't like to see enthusiastic ideas squelched before they even get off the ground. But these are just personal opinions and you should just take them with a grain of salt. Bus stop (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

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What I meant is that I'm not sure which of the Tate buildings it is currently held in. Zagalejo^^^ 04:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

:Yes, I concluded that too late. Sorry to be testy. I also see you initiated and put a lot into that article. Good job. Bus stop (talk) 04:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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:Thank you. Good to know. Bus stop (talk) 18:44, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

You were tagged in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FIsrael_and_state_terrorism&diff=504140231&oldid=504140085 this edit] rather unkindly as an SPA which I decided was quite unfair and elected to remove. Ankh.Morpork 17:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

:Thank you. Bus stop (talk) 18:43, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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:Thanks. Bus stop (talk) 19:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks, Nomo. I was just going to drop a courtesy message here in case Bus stop hadn't seen it. JN466 10:31, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

At this point, you're just being trolled. You should probably just take it off your watchlist and avoid it for now. They are clearly baiting you into behaving badly and then using it against you. Don't fall for it. Viriditas (talk) 09:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

:You are probably right. By the way I want to say that I have appreciated your solidarity. That includes the reasoning that we both tried to engage in at the Talk page of the "British Jews" article. And of course I have appreciated your support at the AN/I attempting to prevent me from merely enforcing policy, as I think we both were trying to do at the "British Jews" Talk page recently. Bus stop (talk) 09:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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It is really confusing to me. Seems that two unrelated articles are involved... Do not know what this could have to do with the Sarasota News Leader article, Can you please clarify? _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 15:24, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what you are referring to regarding the preceding edit, ''Revision as of 21:19, 25 August 2012 (edit)

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(→‎Nomination of Sarasota News Leader for deletion: reply again)

← Previous edit'', regarding a new article afd discussion... _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 18:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying the note to me.

I am aware that we disagree, I think that was explored in 2011. I rely upon the immediate international coverage of Gary's death to indicate his status as a sculptor and believe it qualifies him for recognition for our readers. He was memorialized by the NYT, Time, ABC-TV, and most other prominent media. The numbers of people who attended exhibitions of his work while he was alive, could exceed some of the sculptors you list readily. His fine art is privately held internationally and never is cast off and sent to auction.

Without a doubt, he is the best example I have seen for the use of diverse materials in his work, so I have placed him among those being discussed in that vein. I suspect that you focus too closely on his whimsical works for a value judgment that might just be very personal. That is like focusing on Calder's circus and disqualifying him from discussion as a serious sculptor. The subject matter of dinosaurs was followed by Calder when he created a Stegosaurus after he met Gary and saw his. Chamberlain worked with automobile parts. Picasso often chose animal subjects in his sculpture. Gary's works are a thousand times more complex than Picasso's Bull head, yet are easily as effective a use of unchanged existing materials to create another image and they are created with the highest of skills. Our readers deserve to see not merely academic judgments, but works identified as notable in their lifetimes by everyday sources. As a fellow editor here, I will persist in placing entries where I see this as fitting and I would hope that you do not take that personally, as I respect your skills even though we do disagree on this point. I would prefer that the entry not be deleted. Am posting this at the sculpture talk page also also. _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 21:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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I'm correcting the article due its Talmudist and Anti-Christian bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickidewbear (talk • contribs) 05:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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The point could be illustrated with art world infatuation with contemporary Chinese artist Ai Weiwei, or the widespread suspicion

that the CIA used Abstract Expressionism to promote notions ao US mystique and sophistication. Matnatlak (talk) 02:00, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Now Nude (art); See my comments "What Now?" on my talk page.

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:I have moved the comments to my main user page as an Editor's Statement, responses are welcome.FigureArtist (talk) 15:15, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Is there any "safe area" parts of Irvington? I know that city/township has a high crime rate bu does it have any safe areas like parks, beaches, or neighborhoods or schools? Venustar84 (talk)` —Preceding undated comment added 00:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Re [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=538932174&oldid=538914569 this] -- there's currently an RfC at the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jose_Antonio_Vargas#RfC_on_the_lead article talk page] on this issue. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

This is not directly related, so I'll ask you here... Have you ever participated in the endless move-discussion at Genesis creation narrative? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 19:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

:lol yup. Bus stop (talk) 19:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

::Yeah, see... the reason why that's at "narrative" is (we're told) because most people understand "myth" as lie, or at least false. Academically and by the dictionary, that's of course nonsense, but most people understand it that way. In the same way, most people understand "American" to mean citizen of the United States. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 19:23, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jose_Antonio_Vargas#RfC_on_the_lead This RfC] is primarily concerning the term "Filipino-American" and only secondarily concerning the term "American". Bus stop (talk) 19:46, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

::::The same point holds true. Most people will understand citizen of the United States. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 20:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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...for watching out for me. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:20, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

:Nary a problem... Bus stop (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Can you offer your thoughts in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Biographies_of_living_persons#Need_advice_on_whether_to_include_this_material this discussion]? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 15:12, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Since you were a participant at Wikipedia:Peer review/Whaam!/archive1 and Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Whaam!‎, I am informing you that Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Whaam!/archive1 is now open.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:14, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

:You seem to be wearing out everyone at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Whaam!/archive1. I don't know how to get your support, but am willing to listen to a brief summary of things that need to be added or deleted from the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

::TonyTheTiger—you can feel free to weigh in at the link that you provide above or more specifically at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Whaam!/archive1#More_from_Bus_Stop this section.] Bus stop (talk) 13:46, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 21:17, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Whaam!/archive1 is now three weeks old and has now had over 250KB of discourse. I don't think I have ever been involved in an FAC like this. As I stated at the beginning of this FAC, Whaam! will experience the 50th anniversary of its first exhibition on September 28 that I hope can be celebrated at WP:TFAR. Before that, however, we must make a decision on the quality of this article here at WP:FAC. Please consider making a Support or Oppose decision some time soon.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 00:15, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Since you were active at FAC1, I am notifying you of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Whaam!/archive2.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:54, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

::Thank you. Bus stop (talk) 10:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Please stop editing Whaam! without consensus. I don't want this WP:FAC to fail due to it not being stable.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:57, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Given your active participation that resulted in the recent WP:FA promotion of Whaam!, I am informing you of a discussion that you may want to take part in at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests#Whaam.21.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

:That's big of you, or bigamy. We are both magnanimous. Bus stop (talk) 23:34, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

So if you think being Jewish is just a religion, then why would we categorize actors by it at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

It may not seem like the same statement, but try and run some test cases and see if you can find a case where it doesn't hold true nonetheless. When it comes to NFCC #1, it is very difficult to prove that a non-free equivalent could be created unless the article subject is about the subject of the picture. In this case of Pakistani people, this is definitely true. There are free equivalents of Pakistani people available or they can certainly be created. The wording might not match, but 95% (number out of my butt) of cases it holds true.--v/r - TP 00:02, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

:The wording you chose may be wording that should be found in policy. I'm objecting to statements that sound like they are extracts from policy when they are not. Bus stop (talk) 12:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

::In practice, that's how it works. Run some test cases, set up some scenarios, and you'll see what I'm talking about.--v/r - TP 12:40, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

:::But the person complaining that their image was improperly removed should first be shown actual language in policy. The rewording of policy that you are presenting may be correct. But it should not be presented as if it was the actual language in policy. Bus stop (talk) 13:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

::::I disagree with you there. Explaining how the policy generally applies instead of using the confusing legal jargon and ambiguity is more often helpful. This particular user didn't WP:AGF of the user informing them and that's where the failure lies. That's a sign of a COI, honestly. When one person's personal goals override the goals of Wikipedia, they are in conflict with their interests and Wikipedia's interests. What we may need instead is an essay that explains what each of the general applications are for each criteria.--v/r - TP 14:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bus stop. Requesting clarification from you on your preference as to the wording of the contested line in this article. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Peter_Sellers#Survey_summary Summary here]. Want to ensure we're not misrepresenting your viewpoint. Thank you. --Oakshade (talk) 20:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Could you please move (or copy) your suggested replacement text out of the now-hatted section and into the main part of the "Survey" section? All other suggestions were started and discussed there, so it is right yours should be too, rather than being in the "summary" section. I have hatted the summary section because it is a misguided, misleading and biased section that should not have been started by an involved editor. Your suggestion deserves examination away from such a biased and one-sided interpretation. - SchroCat (talk) 09:24, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

As I've seen you participate in discussion at WP:Judaism in the past, please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Category:European people by ethnic or national origin. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I will appreciate it if you comment concerning my remarks in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War#the_article_has_POV_and_.22dubious.22_problems Arab Israeli 1948 war talk page].

I am an Israeli, but try to be objective. I am the only Israeli regular editor in these articles, and the other editors reactions are mostly negative , as expected. It is much better to hear your opinion as well. If you are not too busy, will it be possible for you to comment in the talk page.

thanks Ykantor (talk) 19:06, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

{{User Featured articles|Whaam!}} Thank you for your editorial contributions to Whaam!, which recently was promoted to WP:FA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bus stop; Please add your input here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_contemporary_artists#Cleanup], thanks...Modernist (talk) 12:40, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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Dear Bus stop, thanks for helping to tidy up my recent edits at the Purim article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Purim&diff=586269240&oldid=586168001]. I was tired and it was late and I honestly missed them, so I appreciate your good work. Thanks again, IZAK (talk) 01:04, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSdVOEKW5YA]...Modernist (talk) 03:16, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Bus Stop, as I read current Wikipedia policies and guidelines, a person can be described as a Jew based on religious belief, or instead based on ethnicity, or both. If Wikipedia's description of a person as a Jew is based on religious belief, then Wikipedia requires evidence of self-identification. We cannot say that a person's religion is Jewish unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief. However, evidence of self-identification is not required to say that a person's ethnicity is Jewish (i.e. ethnicity is different from religion or sexual orientation).

Do you disagree with any of that? Thanks.Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:03, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

:Policy does not directly address the differences between religions. Are all religions the same? Obviously not. Do all religions have the same form with the only variation seen in their specific components? The net effect of policy in the area that we are discussing is a "leveling effect". If you encounter a cosmologist, what type of conversation would you have with him? Would you say "all that I know about cosmology is twinkle twinkle little star"? Of course not. You would try to muster up information of substance, even if it meant doing research. Let us put aside "sexual orientation" for a moment. Do you realize how ludicrous it is, for the purpose of policy, to not only lump together "religion" with "sexual orientation", but also to lump together all religions? This is one-size-fits-all policy. It can be improved. But it is apparently an uphill battle. Bus stop (talk) 01:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

::My comment above did not address what the policies and guidelines at Wikipedia should be. Instead, my comment above addressed what the policies and guidelines currently are. All I'm asking is whether you agree about what the policies currently are. If you're not able to recognize what current policy is, and are unwilling to follow it even while you try to improve it, then, well....it's understandable why other editors might want to keep you from editing.Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

:::Where does policy distinguish between a Jew based on religious belief and a Jew based on ethnicity? Can you please cut and paste that area of policy to me? Bus stop (talk) 02:10, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

{{od}} Sure. The guideline [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity,_gender,_religion_and_sexuality#Religion about ethnicity and religion] says: {{cquote|Ethnic groups may be used as categorizations....For example, we do have :Category:Jewish musicians....Categories regarding religious beliefs of a living person should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question (see WP:BLPCAT), either through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion.}}Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:19, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Bus stop, your responses at ANI are not helping. Perhaps you should stay away from there for a bit? Viriditas (talk) 10:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

:::Viriditas—OK. And thanks for your help, and kind words. Thanks. Bus stop (talk) 10:34, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Why the self-revert at ANI?Anythingyouwant (talk) 21:15, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

:I don't want to seem too mean-spirited. It is old—from 2012. Bus stop (talk) 21:19, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

::That was probably wise for you to do. But, since it reflects an old but ongoing pattern, I feel it was appropriate for me to mention it (twice so far) at ANI. Thanks for the diff.Anythingyouwant (talk) 21:23, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

:::Take care, Bus stop. You did a classy thing at ANI. I hope the foreseeable future doesn't last too long, and that you will enjoy then having a clean slate. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:03, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

File:Farm-Fresh eye.png You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jews_and_Communism_(2nd_nomination). Thanks. MarkBernstein (talk) 21:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I have asked for a move review, see Wikipedia:Move review#Anti-Semitism, pertaining to Anti-Semitism#Requested move. Because you were/are involved in the discussion/s for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page/topic, you might want to participate in the move review. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 08:52, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive265#Move War at History of the Jews in Nepal, and RFC review that concerns you because you were recently involved with one or more of the related Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the Jews in Nepal, Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 June 30 (History of the Jews in Nepal), Talk:History of the Jews in Nepal#RfC: Should we change article name to 'Judaism in Nepal'?. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 07:50, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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• [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q]...Modernist (talk) 00:44, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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::Thank you so much. My barn needed that. The chickens have been complaining that they feel like they are living in a barn. Bus stop (talk) 13:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

:::Sadly, I'm all out of henhouses. --Dweller (talk) 13:59, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

::::Somebody ought to design a henhouse-star, for use in minor situations in which the full barn-star is uncalled for. Bus stop (talk) 11:58, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the support at Wikipedia talk:Featured article criteria, as you will see from my last posting I see no point in continuing the conversation at this time, because there is no change of changing the text at the moment. -- PBS (talk) 12:45, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

:You're welcome. Thank you for initiating that discussion. Bus stop (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Bus stop, I noticed the point you added and then removed on the Dylan Talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bob_Dylan&diff=655238864&oldid=653818175], and I have some sympathy with the issue you raised. I also though the removal of :Category:American Jews, :Category:Jewish American musicians, and :Category:Jewish American songwriters, with the edit summary "Dylan converted to Christianity" was odd. If you wish to make this point again, I would support you. Best wishes, Mick gold (talk) 18:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

:Yes, I was just thinking of re-wording that post. I also don't relish the slugfest that could follow. It seems just self-evident that the Jewish/Christian thing is best accommodated by including both for Categorization purposes. But this issue is project-wide and I doubt anything I am going to say is going to sway a consensus of editors. Bus stop (talk) 22:29, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

::I agree, Jewish-Christian thing is best accommodated by including both for Categorization purposes. I think majority of BD editors would support this position. Mick gold (talk) 00:15, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

:::I've posted this on Talk page. Mick gold (talk) 14:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

ONe has to be careful with CFCA articles. The give URLs from which they took content, but these are often Russian , and unreliable in the extreme.--Lute88 (talk) 21:03, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

:Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Bus stop (talk) 02:04, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, you were correct in what you wrote, and I was wrong in what I did. In his postings, Modernist has been calling me all sorts of names, and will not enter into a serious discussion about some aspects of the WIKIPEDIA Article on Abstract Expressionism. He asked me to do some reading, and when I did, he will not discuss some of the results of the research I accomplished. In a way, he acts as if he owns the Article. An example I can offer concerns this issue about which you chided me: In the Article there is a list of "Other artists" which is introduced with: "Significant artists whose mature work relates to the American Abstract Expressionist movement:" Note, it does not say they have to be American, only that their work relates to the AAE movement. Therefore Modernist is clearly incorrect in rejecting OlivianBRENDA inserting Romul Nuțiu into the “Other” list giving the reason “not an American abstract expressionist” when there are other non-Americans on that list, such as Wols, Kumi Sugai, Bram van Velde, Nína Tryggvadóttir, Antoni Tàpies, Nicolas de Staël and Zao Wou Ki. It does not take but a minute to read the article on Romul Nuțiu to understand why he is much like the other non-Americans in qualifying to be on that list. Thank you for listening to my wanting not to be rude, but Modernist seems to have brought out the devil in me. Please look the list and at the articles yourself, and tell me who is correct? Sirswindon (talk) 19:45, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

:Dear BusStop, please can you direct me to any "Fine Arts (Painting)" Editors, with whom I might be able to have an intelligent dialog regarding Abstract Expressionists (and not Modernist who only wants to call me names)? I need an objective Editor, who will be willing to enter into a constructive discussion. Thank you for suggesting someone. Sirswindon (talk) 22:50, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't know your opinion on the article but a lot of people on here wouldn't have even pointed that out when it was an obvious mistake.

I enjoyed looking at your artwork.

Thank you for sharing them with everyone here.

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Hi Bustop. I originally saw them unrelated as well. But there's at least one reliable source that explicitly links them. I think there's enough to position them as related. Pick your battles (as they say).Mattnad (talk) 16:08, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Nagourneyre removal of quote "fair game for a news story" being out of context. It's in the same paragraph and verbatim so I fail to see how it is out of context. Sorry I'm a newbee and may have ref or sined incorrectly Glasseye123 (talk) 11:16, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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: You didn't take my noticing of your ignoring of Wiki rules very seriously so I'm going ahead. thanks--A21sauce (talk) 21:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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I can't put this in article talk per NOTFORUM, but I find [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3G7zFMt0uQ this] amazing. If you can find 17 free minutes, watch this and tell me if this isn't a remarkable video. By about 14:00, two guys from the hood have Tensing and his supervisor completely gabberflasted, and Tensing just stands there looking like a deer in the headlights. Am I crazy? ―Mandruss ☎ 19:14, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

:Hi {{ping|Mandruss}} when is this video from? Bus stop (talk) 20:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

::I don't know any more than what is on that page. I just ran across that by accident as I was looking at our bodycam vids. It can't be too old, since he appears to be in UCPD uniform and he worked for UCPD for only a few years (our article doesn't say, exactly). ―Mandruss ☎ 20:42, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

:::Hi {{ping|Mandruss}} [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHV0xr3xPLU This] indicates a little more about it. Bus stop (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

::::Yeah. She says "last May", so I guess that means 2-3 months ago. But it's like this. A cop is either in the right or in the wrong, either supported by the law and department policy or not, and any competent cop should know which. If you're in the wrong, you smile and admit your mistake, back up and regroup. If you're in the right, you don't stand there and allow two people to talk you to death; you tell them to take it up with the judge. If you give them a lawful command and they fail to comply, you arrest them. If they resist arrest, you use physical force. If they endanger your life, you shoot them. Neither cop had control of this situation, which is precisely what they're trained to do. I've had my share of contact with cops (some would say more than my share), and I've never seen cops behave like that. ―Mandruss ☎ 21:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

:::::Hi {{ping|Mandruss}} they're just human beings. They phase in and out of being competent. It's the deadly force part that is obviously critical. In the case of Tensing one can only wonder if oneself is capable of such an error. I'm sure if he had 60 seconds to think about what he was about to do, he wouldn't do it. But given two seconds or maybe one second, it becomes more likely that one can make the utterly wrong decision. Bus stop (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

::::::Yeah. I don't presume to judge Tensing, or Slager, or Wilson, since I could never be a cop in the first place. I also don't feel the need to choose one side over the other on these things; I have no difficulty feeling compassion for both, which is what places me center-left, I think; I get the sense you're the same in that way. ―Mandruss ☎ 14:08, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

I understand that you have strong feelings about the discussion of Camille Paglia, but it honestly it beyond the point of WP:BLUDGEON in my opinion. Can you please consider dialing it down a bit, or at least limiting threaded discussion to the discussion section and leaving the !votes alone? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:50, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

:Hi EvergreenFir—actually I don't have "strong feelings" about this. My position is that we let the pieces fall where they may. A variety of well-known and qualified people weigh in with commentary on a work of contemporary art. I would not argue that anything be suppressed. But others are basically saying that certain things said by Paglia should not simply be allowed to stand as is, yet when commentators lavish praise on the piece, that goes unchallenged. Bus stop (talk) 02:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

What you're doing in these edits ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=677554367&oldid=677552968 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=677559339&oldid=677557283 2]) seems a lot like bludgeoning. The questions you're asking have been answered, ad nauseum. I understand that you don't agree with what's being said, but its not adding anything to continually repeat yourself, especially when we're discussing a potential compromise. Nblund (talk) 02:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

:Hi Nblund—you say that I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bus_stop&diff=677561032&oldid=677534536 "don't agree with what's being said"]. Can you be more specific? Bus stop (talk) 03:33, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

::Do I really need to explain that? I provided you with links to the differences, I don't think I can be any more specific than that. If you're still unclear on the problem, I urge you to check out the previously cited entries on bludgeoning and disruptive editing. If this continues, I think the next step is to request administrative help. Nblund (talk) 20:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Several or your responses, particularly [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=677442759&oldid=677419441 this] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=677391015&oldid=677389592 series] of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=677473471&oldid=677471019 replies], seem to suggest you either aren't bothering to read what I'm suggesting or at least aren't attempting to make relevant points. Please try to read more closely, and stick to the topic when responding. If possible, it would be really helpful if you would stick to arguments that had some basis in existing Wikipedia policies or guidelines, rather than objecting solely based on personal preferences. Nblund (talk) 15:07, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

:Hi Nblund—Roberta Smith, Jerry Saltz, Marina Abramović, artnet, and Camille Paglia are not in "heated dispute" with one another. They are not even in dialogue with one another. The reception section merely contains responses from notable people. I did not concoct this layout. But we use quotations in the cases of praise of the work. Why would Paglia's scathing criticism not be treated just as the praise is treated in our article? Bus stop (talk) 20:20, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

:: You're still not reading me: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.phptitle=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=677399442&oldid=677392816 I suggested] an alternate version that uses a direct quote rather than a paraphrase. This is now the third time i've pointed this out to you (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=prev&oldid=677470923 1],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)&diff=677474979&oldid=677473471 2])

::This may be an honest mistake on your part, but, whatever the intent, continually disregarding what is being said in the conversation is disruptive. See: WP:DISRUPTSIGNS. Nblund (talk) 21:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

:::OK, I stand corrected. Now please use the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mattress_Performance_%28Carry_That_Weight%29#RfC:_How_should_Camille_Paglia_be_described.2Fidentified_in_the_article.3F RfC] to articulate your argument. Bus stop (talk) 22:49, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

What's up with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_gap_task_force&diff=677849220&oldid=677842089 this]? --Sammy1339 (talk) 23:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Bus Stop. I saw your comment on the Signac talk page today about my reverting to the Modern/Old count style. It appears you misunderstood why I did that. I was not at all making a judgment, as you thought, because I was not the one who created those count words. Those words were put there by another editor weeks before my arrival. I personally didn't care what words were used; I simply reverted to them because it would have created a lot of confusion since 15+ editors had already "voted", and all of them used either "Modern" or "Old" to cast their "ballot", not packed or non-packed. So those 2 words in the count would not have matched the words used in the "vote" by all the editors. So it was inappropriate for an editior to unilaterally change those terms long after the voting had commenced. By the way, I suspect that whomever decided on Modern and Old were simply referring to time e.g. which was the new layout and which was the layout that had been used for years. Lootbrewed (talk) 04:44, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your deep researching of this. Although in this instance I tend to agree with the other help desk editors, I think it is still possible that this was a word used somewhere in English at some time. It sure sounds like a Latin-derived English word. However, what I think you most likely found [https://books.google.com/books?id=T09IAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA217&dq=%22indicature%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBwQ6AEwADgKahUKEwj8w_TiiOjHAhUCbj4KHZEQBPY#v=onepage&q=%22indicature%22&f=false here] is the first case that I can ever remember of a pre-OCR era error that matches OCR errors in the present. That is, some soul made exactly the same mistake almost exactly a century ago that modern machines are still making, and probably a lot more often than humans ever did. I think it's amazing. Hamamelis (talk) 15:59, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

::Hi {{u|Hamamelis}}—in a source such as [https://books.google.com/books?id=iSxsAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA199&dq=Indicature&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CD8Q6AEwCGoVChMIlc7clb_qxwIVjv2ACh1-PQdK#v=onepage&q=Indicature&f=false this] I find that "indicature" may make more sense than "judicature".

::"Now, in this disease, if regard be had to the humours, and the indication occasioning them, it should seem at first view that the curative indicature should principally tend 1. to evacuate humours already generated, and 2. to strengthen the concoction, or digestive powers, so as to prevent the accumulation of other humours…"

::Perhaps there is (or was) a legitimate use for "indicature" in some instances. Bus stop (talk) 17:56, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

:::Well, you've found it! I've tried to find this word in old dictionaries at google books, but have yet to find success. But I basically think that anything said, that has a meaning that people mutually agree upon, is a "real" word. That's why they get coined. The author in your example may have been coining "indicature", which, if one follows the use of "indication" as it's [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vHpJXTfDso4J:www.merriam-webster.com/medical/indication&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1&vwsrc=0 used medically] (see sense 1, b), and add the suffix "-ature" (the act, process, state, or system of...), one could understand that he, perhaps, meant a system of determining what is advisable in order to deal with ... humours. What do you think? Hamamelis (talk) 22:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I believe you were correct to delete that question. (In any case, that was what I was advised to do in a similar case a few weeks ago). I've re-deleted it. Iapetus (talk) 10:00, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

:...and it's back. I'll bring it up on the talk page. Iapetus (talk) 10:02, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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Relax! You are misunderstanding what Guy Macon is saying. He doesn't argue that Sanders has no religion, and he doesn't suggest removing the Religion parameter from the infobox. He is simply saying that "Religion: none" or "Religion: secular Jew" are not acceptable. You are being hypersensitive. Say you are sorry, you misunderstood, and give it a rest.

I know that this has been a trying discussion, that in general has been in very bad taste (I don't want to say it smacks of antisemitism, but there is that concern), but Guy Macon is certainly not a party to those who have questioned Sanders's Jewishness. He is not one of the bad guys. --Ravpapa (talk) 17:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Ravpapa}}—as you said, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bernie_Sanders&diff=685356981&oldid=685325455 "Religion: Jewish" is the more common usage.] It is also what the sources say. Bus stop (talk) 00:24, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

::Bernie has stated that he's "Jewish," but "not particularly religious". That puts him in the same category as me, a nonreligious Jew. He's ethically Jewish, but he's not practicing. There's a specific term for that. {{Reply|Ravpapa}} it's not "anti-Semitism". Where would you even get that? If someone says, "I'm Baptist", and they're from Georgia, and they go to a Southern Baptist church, is it "anti-Christian" to accurately label them "Southern Baptist"? (The correct answer is: No.) Bernie, like me, is a non-religious Jew. I wasn't being "anti-Semetic" to change it to "Nonreligious Judaism", that's silly. Am I anti-Semetic against myself? Kⁿo_wl^ed_ge B^at_tl^e 02:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

:::{{u|Knowledgebattle}}—use the Talk page at the Bernie Sanders article. You have edited the religion parameter of the Infobox at the Bernie Sanders article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bernie_Sanders&diff=686527780&oldid=686483662 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bernie_Sanders&diff=686121890&oldid=686092007 here] yet you have not participated in the discussion about that subject at that article's Talk page. Please post your thoughts at that article's Talk page. This is a collaborative project. I am asking you to engage in the discussion of this topic that is already underway at the Bernie Sanders Talk page. Bus stop (talk) 09:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

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:oh crap sorry thought this was an article.

JKshaw (talk) 23:30, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

::guess i'll take a break then i'm getting a little jumpy

merry christmas

JKshaw (talk) 23:32, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, {{u|Modernist}}, Likewise. Bus stop (talk) 00:16, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

There is an RfC at Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes concerning what What should be allowed in the religion entry in infoboxes. Please join the discussion and help us to arrive at a consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:18, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

For remembering... Still on wikibreak! Ty 07:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

If you could drop a comment regarding that edit into the talk page thread, it would be nice to make evaluating consensus easier. (Talk:Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy#Hacking_attempts Gaijin42 (talk) 18:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Re: Email, I am already blocked and I am appealing at WP:AE but I'm just going to let it out regardless as per your email, anyway. I did read it, I just need to get a new Wiki email setup. Thanks. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 05:41, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

:BTW, I am not sure if Encyclopedia Britannica is a RS but you should check out the free version online. It is accessible to all. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 16:38, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Sir Joseph has been blocked from editing Wikipedia, and it looks like when the block ends he will resume his behavior and end up the subject of an Arbcom case which will likely result in either a site ban or a topic ban on all pages related to Jews or Judaism. Word to the wise: you are likely to end up in the same Arbcom case and could face the same sanctions. If, however, you stop your disruptive behavior now, I will make a point of pointing this out at any Arbcom hearing and strongly recommending no sanctions. You should ask yourself; is getting your point across (a point you have made many times over already) on a couple of pages now worth the risk of being banned from Wikipedia later? --Guy Macon (talk) 00:22, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm sending a notice because you previously participated in a move discussion on the page for Mattress Performance (Carry that weight). A new article was created Columbia University rape controversy as a spinout entry, and there is an ongoing discussion here regarding whether the article should be kept, moved, merged, or deleted. Letting you know in case you want to put your two cents in. Thanks. Nblund (talk) 23:07, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I was off-wiki when your ping came in, and I see the discussion on Jimbo's talk page is archived now. Rest assured that I share your concern, and feel free to ping me if the subject comes up again. Coretheapple (talk) 16:06, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

:{{u|Coretheapple}}—I was arguing that, in keeping with recent related discussions, "Religion: Jewish" should be removed from the Infobox at Bernard Madoff. Bus stop (talk) 19:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

:Thank you {{u|E.M.Gregory}}. Bus stop (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Seems to be missing criticism. Sources such as [http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/15/oops-i-guess-i-just-raped-emma-sulkowicz/ this] suggest it is not art and her continuation of her attack on an innocent victim. Does this represent feminism? Or just the view of an extremist? Valoem ^{talk contrib} 21:39, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

I was on the fence for a minute after some of the recent arguments, but now I remember my original thought process. :) —PermStrump(talk) 04:13, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

:P.S. I don't know how this showed up in the yellow box. I started a new section. —PermStrump(talk) 04:13, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

::Thank you, {{u|Permstrump}}. Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I can't figure out why the yellow box just goes on and on and on. I could try putting {{helpme}} on this page and see if anyone knowledgeable can figure it out. Bus stop (talk) 18:09, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

:::I fixed it per WP:TPOC. For every "{" there must be a matching "}". --Guy Macon (talk) 18:45, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

::::Thanks go out to {{u|Guy Macon}} for fixing the error of the creeping yellow box. Sincere thanks. Bus stop (talk) 18:49, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

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:It's something like a Set phrase. A google [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=%22+au+contraire+%22&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2C%22%20au%20contraire%20%22%3B%2Cc0 ngram shows] a spike around the 1930-1938 period, so I guess it was a phrase used in literature - I hazard a guess that it's a saying of Hercule Poirot and we can lay the blame on Agatha Christie --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:26, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

::Thank you. That is great. (I hope I haven't used a "set phrase".) Bus stop (talk) 23:37, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

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I happened to notice your discussion on the Administrators' Noticeboard about disclosure of e-mails, and I am fascinated. If you don't mind me asking, what is the basis for your disagreement? You mentioned "real world" principles (or something of the sort), and I was wondering if you'd be willing to expand on that? If not, no worries. Thanks. Dumuzid (talk) 15:31, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

:Why not just weigh in at the discussion that is already taking place? Bus stop (talk) 15:34, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

::I just felt like it would be a bit of a hijack, as my interest is very much academic (read: pointless) and has nothing to do with the underlying issue. Sorry to have bothered you! Dumuzid (talk) 15:40, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

:::You have not bothered me. I am not a busy or important person except in the usual existential ways. Bus stop (talk) 16:05, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:People_of_Jewish_descent&diff=743276157&oldid=743269816 this edit] you removed both a comment of yours, as well as your vote. In later edits you re-added a comment, but not a vote. Is that on purpose? Debresser (talk) 18:30, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

:{{u|Debresser}}—First a question: why are we having this WP:RFC as :Category:People of Middle Eastern descent is at present not found within :Category:People of Jewish descent? You initiated this WP:RFC with "In 2014 there was a very long discussion on this same talkpage, should :Category:People of Middle Eastern descent be added to this category." But :Category:People of Middle Eastern descent is not in :Category:People of Jewish descent. So, why would we be voting to remove :Category:People of Middle Eastern descent from :Category:People of Jewish descent? Bus stop (talk) 19:58, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

:: After that old discussion the category was not removed till I removed it recently, and after a bit of edit warring. The discussion, however, still uses the word "remove". Debresser (talk) 21:25, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

:::OK, {{u|Debresser}}, thanks for the explanation. I will be re-adding that commentary or related commentary. The RFC is confusing, isn't it? Bus stop (talk) 22:04, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

:::: One editor posted very long posts, and I got a bit tired of him. Long posts also cause other editors to refrain from partaking in the discussion. I think that the discussion is going in the direction I hope for, and that is satisfying. Debresser (talk) 07:59, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:50, 25 December 2016 (UTC) 80px

Please do not vandalise the Bernie Madoff page again by removing his religion from the information box. His religion was critical to his fraud because he recruited his victims basically from the Jewish community. It has been reported many many many time that Madoff committed what is known as an "Affinity Fraud". In fact, there is a Wikipedia page for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_fraud and Madoff is mentioned on it. Thank you for your cooperation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Betathetapi545 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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For some reason, your comments have got me laughing tonight. You know, not the basic lol, but the kind that keeps rolling. Love the point about the lean Pollock article. (Might be time to call it a night if I'm getting punchy, but this is always good to end the night.) Thanks!—CaroleHenson (talk) 08:30, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Since Talk:Stanley Kubrick is such a mess with arguments over infoboxes, and has been that way for quite some time, I figured the issue should be taken to a sort of higher court. See Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Should biographical articles always include an infobox?. Hopefully less insults will occur over there. –Matthew - (talk) 14:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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It's alright to add an image to one's post, as long as the word content hasn't been redacted. GoodDay (talk) 14:29, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

:Yeah, right—images don't matter (sarcasm). Bus stop (talk) 14:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

::Please stop deleting my Dr McCoy image. It doesn't in anyway alter the content of my post. GoodDay (talk) 18:47, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Prove ur a painter, bro! Gimme ur 3rd best painting, before I really get angry!! Adwctamia (talk) 05:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

:Thank you for your attention, {{u|Adwctamia}}. I get so little attention. It really brightens my day when the rare person takes notice of my accomplishments. I take it you are a turpentine aficionado too? Bus stop (talk) 10:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

::My favorite part of being a painter is you create stuff outta thin air, lol. I know it's obvious but I like the fact you create something new that didn't exist before you brought it into existence. Keep it up! Adwctamia (talk) 10:11, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

:::{{u|Adwctamia}}—I thought [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nYpDOi-AQ this] was great. Bus stop (talk) 16:49, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

{{user precious|header=decency art|thanks=for quality articles such as Table with Pink Tablecloth, for {{diff|Talk:Stanley Kubrick|757810894||explaining the value of structured information}}, for mentioning on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bus_stop&oldid=523191473 your beautiful user page] decency and "rabbit in disguise", - abstract painter, repeating (18 May 2009):}} --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

:::Thank you, {{u|Gerda Arendt}}, I am definitely flattered. It was a very satisfying experience working on that small article (Table with Pink Tablecloth). Bus stop (talk) 21:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

:::: I like the title ;) - I better tell you right now (usually in a year) that Precious is the prize of the cabal of the outcasts to which you belong by what you do ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

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...on Talk:List of Jewish feminists helped me reorient my thinking to streamline the eventual edits I made to the list. I appreciate your taking the time and contributing to the process. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 22:19, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

:Thank you for being welcoming, {{u|Deborahjay}}. I just wanted to weigh in with my thoughts. Bus stop (talk) 00:50, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Your edits ont the AFD are disruptive. See WP:BLUDGEON. You need to read about reliable sources, and also give poeple a chance to contribute rather than badgering them. If you continue I may have to report you to ANI. You have been blocked repeatedly; it would seem that bad conduct is a past habit. Why not try to let poeple get a word in edgewise on the Albermarle Afd, rather than badgering people with irrational arguments? 96.127.243.41 (talk) 19:29, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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PeterTheFourth, a has been removing critical information of Emma Sulkowicz, can you please revert this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Columbia_University_rape_controversy&type=revision&diff=778490369&oldid=778489915 edit] if you feel he is violating NPOV. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 13:01, 3 May 2017 (UTC)