User talk:Fraction7

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Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:VIYCE|VIYCE]] (January 19)

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KylieTastic (talk) 21:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Draft:VIYCE]]

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, introducing inappropriate pages, such as :Draft:VIYCE, is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion.

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Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:VIYCE|VIYCE]] (January 19)

File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svgYour recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit§ion=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:VIYCE Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by AngusWOOF was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Wikipedia is not for posting about your web film projects. If you think your film is notable, please find secondary sources independent of the subject that cover the film.

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AngusWOOF (barksniff) 23:59, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

VIYCE is not a web movie.

VIYCE is available for public distribution. I only put it on YouTube for free because nobody was buying it. My article on my movie was unbiased and accurate. I am not trying to "get the word out," as you put it. Rather, I am trying to make Wikipedia as complete as possible, since Wikipedia has no article for my film as of yet. It is absurd to prohibit a filmmaker from creating an article about his own film. If you wish to buy a DVD, . I see no reason why Wikipedia should have an article for this but not for [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfY2_1m-2Jk&t=1805s this].

Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:VIYCE|VIYCE]] (January 20)

File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svgYour recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:

{{divbox|gray|3=This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.|}}{{divbox|gray|3=This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of films). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.|}} The comment the reviewer left was:

{{divbox|blue|3=Even if this film is for real, it needs to be shown to be notable. Anyone could upload stuff on YouTube. Why is this film notable from my dog videos?}} Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:VIYCE|VIYCE]] (January 20)

File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svgYour recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit§ion=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:VIYCE Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by AngusWOOF was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Enough. By your own admission, it is not a notable film unless it gets promotion by Wikipedia.

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AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

January 2019

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{tlx|unblock|2=reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Ad Orientem (talk) 01:28, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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MfD nomination of [[:Draft:VIYCE]]

30px :Draft:VIYCE, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:VIYCE and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of :Draft:VIYCE during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed | 1=I have not created this account purely for self-promotion. I have created it so that Wikipedia can be more complete. If my draft for VIYCE is accepted, I will go on to edit articles not related to my work. If my draft is not accepted, I must persist in editing it and resubmitting it until you value it as a competent article which meets your standards. I have been honest and transparent in my edits, and have not lied or done anything shady. I wrote an article for my movie. I don't care that it is my movie. It is a movie without an article, thus, it deserves one. I suggest you watch it, beginning to end, then decide. My article is not spam, it is accurate and truthful. Fraction7 (talk) 17:28, 22 January 2019 (UTC) | decline = You cant use Wikipedia to tell the world about your film. You offer no independent reliable sources that have significant coverage of your film, nor have you shown that it meets the notability guidelines written at WP:NFILM. If you just want to tell the world about your film, you should use social media or a personal website that you control. Please read about conflict of interest. Since you indicate that you will persist in editing about your film, you cannot be unblocked at this time. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 17:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)}}

{{unblock reviewed|reason=Please unblock me so that I may discuss this in a reasonable and thoughtful manner. I do not understand why I have been blocked, nor do I consider my film, VIYCE, invalid for an article on here. I wish to talk this over.Fraction7 (talk) 17:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)|decline=Wikipedia doesn't have articles on just anything that exists. Instead, we have criteria for notability, such as WP:NFILM for films. Your film doesn't meet those criteria; thus Wikipedia should not have an article about it. That's not something that can be fixed by editing the page. This has been explained to you before (including in the reply to the unblock request right above). You seem unwilling to accept those explanations. Unblocking you would thus just waste more time (including your time). Huon (talk) 00:23, 23 January 2019 (UTC)}}

Someone else will be along to review(and decline) this request, but please state what it is that you do not understand about "You cannot use Wikipedia to tell the world about your film" and "spam/advertising only account", the reason for the block. 331dot (talk) 17:52, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

I am not using Wikipedia to tell the world about my film, I am using Wikipedia to make Wikipedia more complete and accurate. I would not need to write an article on my film if somebody had already, but I can find no results for my film, so I can see that an article is in need of creation. Fraction7 (talk) 17:55, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

:The mere existence of your film does not merit it an article. Please read WP:NFILM for what does merit films an article here. You have said elsewhere that no independent sources have written about your film, that means it cannot have an article here. You have to get word out about your film in some other way. 331dot (talk) 18:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

I am not attempting to get word out about my film. I am only creating an article for a film which exists. It is an OK film. Not Citizen Kane, but a film nonetheless. Why does it matter that no newspapers have talked about my film? How can they if they do not know that it exists? Of course they will write about Vice by Adam McKay. He is famous! Lots of people have seen Vice by Adam McKay. My film, Viyce, is less well-known. This is not my fault. I made the film. Nobody has seen my movie. Since it is readily accessible, I have come to the conclusion that they do not wish to view my film. If they choose not to watch my film, that is their choice and I am not responsible if people refuse to watch my movie. It's a good movie nonetheless with a two hour runtime and a plot. Fraction7 (talk) 21:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

  • I just wanted to note in light of the unblock request that this user has now been banned 3 times from the help channel and has continued to engage in evasion despite this but has also apparently made it their mission to continue to waste people's times. Their block has been thoroughly explained, multiple times as has the deletion. We've gotten far past WP:IDHT. Praxidicae (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

This is a lie- I only engage in constructive discussion. My only wish is an article for my film. It is an OK film. It exists. it's an Ok film. There should be an article for it. Fraction7 (talk) 22:20, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Since it is clear you are not hearing or just ignoring what you are being told, I have decided to remove talk page access. Any admin is free to restore it if they see merit in doing so. If your request is declined, you may use WP:UTRS to request unblock. 331dot (talk) 22:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

{{UTRS-unblock-user|23811|Jan 22, 2019 22:27:40|closed}}--UTRSBot (talk) 22:27, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

{{UTRS-unblock-user|23813|Jan 23, 2019 00:13:01|closed}}--UTRSBot (talk) 00:13, 23 January 2019 (UTC)