User talk:Melchior2006

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Some help needed

Hey @Melchior2006. Thanks for your good work on cleaning up MOS:PUFFERY on highered pages. If you're interested, I have recently been cleaning up puff and undue information on secondary education pages in New England. Perhaps you might be interested in doing the same — there is a ton of work to do for to uphold WP:NPOV. GuardianH (talk) 21:11, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

: Sounds good, @GuardianH. I will take a look a little later. You are working your way through these pages in a regional manner? Can you give me the category you have been working within? --Melchior2006 (talk) 06:35, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

::@Melchior2006 I think schools in Template:New England Preparatory School Athletic Council would be a good start; I've been combing through a number of them recently. Schools in that template tend to have additional categories within them (i.e. miscellaneous athletic associations, etc.) and other categories within them, so you can also use those to branch out into other schools. GuardianH (talk) 18:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

::On an additional note, categories such as :Category:Private high schools in Connecticut or :Category:Private high schools in New York (state) by county, etc. etc. are great to look through. GuardianH (talk) 18:33, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Of interest

Hey @Melchior2006, I thought you might be interested in this. A whole ton of the articles of schools listed in G30 Schools could use some substantial cleanup in terms of puffery removal. GuardianH (talk) 04:48, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

:Thanks, I took a look. You were right! -- Melchior2006 (talk) 06:24, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your work on [[Thomas Meienhofer]]

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Thank you for your work on [[List of Princeton Triangle Club shows]]

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Thank you for your work on [[List of Northfield Mount Hermon people]]

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Thank you for your work on [[Peter Jarolin]]

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Thank you for your work on [[François Bruys]]

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Thank you for your work on [[List of Milton Academy alumni]]

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Thank you for your work on [[List of Princeton High School Alumni]]

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Nomination of [[:List of Germantown Friends School alumni]] for deletion

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Concern regarding [[Draft:Bernard James Elmer Murphy]]

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A barnstar for you!

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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | The Barnstar of Diligence

style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For your tireless work on colleges, universities, and secondary schools expanding material, formatting, copyediting, and cleaning up boosterism, with diligent discourse on talk pages. What a big magnifying glass you have indeed, and the articles are visibly better off for it. 30px GuardianH (talk) 00:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you! I really admire your work, too. Fighting boosterism is especially important when it comes to higher ed, since there is so much academic corruption out there and people abuse Wikipedia in order to promote schools or cover up deficiencies. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 06:31, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Richard Daschbach

Hello Melchior2006,

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I wanted to let you know that I have tagged a page that you created (Richard Daschbach) for deletion because it is unnecessary per one of the criteria at WP:G14.

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:{{Re|Joseywales1961}} I just added another Richard Daschbach to the disambig page. --Melchior2006 (talk) 08:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

::Great, thanks have a nice day Josey Wales Parley 08:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

:::{{Re|Joseywales1961}}. Could you pls revert your deletion of the disambig page? There is nothing left there anymore. --Melchior2006 (talk) 08:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of an attack page

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A page you created has been deleted as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:Which page do you mean? Melchior2006 (talk) 21:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Pietro Amenta. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:::OK, thanks for the info. The discussion about the deletion clearly shows that other editors don't think it was an attack page, and it was online for more than a year without any criticism, but I accept your decision. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 22:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Theatre/German

Hello. It occurred to me, from the interests you mention on your user page, that you might be interested in checking some of the German musical theatre-related articles against the English ones. If so, here are some possible things you might be uniquely positioned to look into:

  • Does our :Musical theatre article adequately reflect the non-English-speaking musical stage in Europe and beyond, as far as your research may have led you?
  • Should anything from our English article on musical theatre be added to the equivalent German article?
  • Is it true that :Starlight Express had a historically long run in Germany? If so, can you please add a ref or two to our article on it about the German production?
  • Are there any other examples of record-setting runs in Europe or other non-English-speaking countries that have surpassed, say, 5,000 performances?
  • :Gilbert and Sullivan works (one of my particular interests) have been played in Europe and around the world since the 1870s. This is mentioned briefly in the "Legacy and assessment" section of that article. Is the article missing anything particularly noteworthy?
  • Broadway, off-Broadway, London and other US/UK theatres have often hosted foreign (and foreign-language) productions and touring companies. Are these described adequately in the obvious Wikipedia articles, and if not, can you add some description of the most important such productions and touring companies to them? (for example, :Broadway theatre, :West End theatre, :off-Broadway, :Theater in the United States, :Theatre of the United Kingdom, :musical theatre, :theatre, etc.

Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

:I rarely do work on musicals. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 15:59, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Diermeier edits

Hi Melchior2006, thanks for taking a look at the Daniel Diermeier article and making those changes. I was wondering if you had any interest in the edit request I made for the article to expand on some of Dr. Diermeier's more recent work with Vanderbilt? Any feedback you can offer would be highly appreciated. Cheers VandyBE (talk) 15:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

: Sure, I can take a look. --Melchior2006 (talk) 15:58, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

October 2024

File:Information.svg Hello, I'm 4meter4. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to :Pacific Repertory Theatre have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Removing scholarly publications which are used in inline citations within an article is unacceptable. 4meter4 (talk) 21:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks for your input. Let's move this talk topic to the appropriate page (Pacific Rep Theater). See you over there. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 21:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

::User_talk:4meter4#Forest_Theater_and_Golden_Bough_Playhouse 4meter4 and Ssilver are discussing opposing merger of Forest Theater and Godlen Bough Playhouse together. Graywalls (talk) 02:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

:::@{{u|Graywalls}} I don't know about that. At this point it is a one-sided conversation. Ssilvers left a message on my talk page which I have not responded to yet. I haven't looked at those theatre pages yet, and have not formed an opinion. However, I do know from researching the PRC article that both of the theatre venues are old and historic and have long histories that go back to the early 20th century. Both theaters pre-date the PRC's creation in 1982 by decades and have entries in architecture books, histories of Monterey County/California, and of course coverage in newspaper archives across many many years; enough so that lengthy articles which pass WP:SIGCOV would be easily feasible. I would not be surprised if they were on the National Register of Historic Places or some other similar historic designation list which would pass WP:NBUILDING. Without even looking at the articles, my concern over a merger would be that the theaters lack a shared history for the majority of time that they have been operating as theaters. It really isn't until 1994 that the theaters begin to have a shared history, and as both theaters date to 1910ish there is about an 80 year history where they were independent of one another. For this reason, I suspect that a merger may not only be challenging, but also not ideal if not impossible to do. A bundled article would be clumsy and un-focused (what would we even call such an article). It also would be challenging to maintain both an appropriate encyclopedic scope and to match the standard article structure/WP:MOS practices used encyclopedia wide for articles on theaters. That said, if you have a well argued position as to why they should be bundled into a single article, and what the structure of said article would look like I would be open to hearing that proposal. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

recent edit

I think i might have been caught up in your trimming boosterism cruft.

I'm just editing punctuation

have a Wikipedia day,

s Augmented Seventh (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks for your input. Let's move this talk topic to the appropriate page (Berkshire School). See you over there. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

FSU Edits

Thanks for your helpful edits at Florida State University! After reflecting on it, I tweaked your recent edit slightly to clarify the original legislative purpose, which has two elements. Sirberus (talk) 14:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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November 2024

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C%C3%AEteaux_Moralia_in_Job&oldid=1258705143] Drew Stanley (talk) 03:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

:Thx for the tip; I expanded the article a bit. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

:same issue - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_ad_Guillelmum] Drew Stanley (talk) 21:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

[[Epiphany Apostolic College]]

Hi -- no rush, just wanted to point out that it looks like some of the refs you added to this article are in the wrong place/attached to placeholder "asdf" text. Gnomingstuff (talk) 03:20, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks for the heads up! I added a bit today. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for taking out the trash on LMU

I don't closely monitor that article because my only experience with LMU is through my childhood experience with the Center for Talented Youth. A lot of junk has snuck in there over the years. Thanks for taking out the trash on that article! Coolcaesar (talk) 21:18, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

:You're welcome. Boosterism was a major problem; promotional (or unsourced) writing reduces the article's credibility and wastes a lot of space. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 13:03, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Discussion regarding the ''Academic background'' divider in [[Template:Infobox academic]]

File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg Melchior2006, you might be interested in a discussion currently ongoing at Template talk:Infobox academic about the possibility of reformatting the template without the Academic background divider. GuardianH (talk) 23:07, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Hazing

Thanks for adding to the Hazing article. The source you linked does not mention alcohol poisoning, nor that Burch was a pledge. Could you please choose a different source or change your text? Thank you. Cerulean Depths (talk) 20:36, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

:Done. Thanks for looking closely! -- Melchior2006 (talk) 10:06, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Culinary Institute of America

Hey, I wanted to see if you had any other thoughts on this request for the Culinary Institute of America. Let me know! Cheers BINK Robin (talk) 20:16, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:Looks good as far as I can see. I just took another look at the page and trimmed here and there, toned down some boosterism, deleted seom points that don't attain encyclo-relevance. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 08:00, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

::I appreciate the close eye! Just for the sake of full transparency, would you mind responding with a "go ahead" on the CIA Talk page? I am more than happy to make the edit myself, I just want to make sure everything is clear to future Talk page reviewers. Cheers BINK Robin (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

::Hey, wanted to check if you had seen my latest response on the CIA Talk page? Thanks, BINK Robin (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

University of Nebraska at Kearney

I noticed your recent edit to University of Nebraska at Kearney with the phrase 'boosterism galore' as part of the edit summary. Such a large deletion in a single edit is not optimal in that subsequent editors may find it difficult to change parts of the text added or deleted.

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In my opinion the deletions were were not al well thought out. As an example you changed, in the section 'notable people', you deleted 'olympic' from the description of a wrestler. 'Olympic wrestler' is what makes that person notable; he won a bronze medal at the 2012 Olympics in London.

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Judging by your edit summary, size of your single edit deletion, and number of perhaps disputable deletions, I suggest you be more careful, lest you find similar large deletions reverted rather selectively altered. It is always wise to do your own work thoroughly rather the shifting the burden to those who follow. I made a single change and reverted the rest.

Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 14:15, 16 April 2025 (UTC) —

:Thanks for your message. I take WP:BOLD to heart. But you're right, 14,000 is a rather large edit. The article was an exception because it has so many problems. But I will take another look and parce the edits for further consideration and discussion among editors. As for "notable" alums: we don't go into which competitions they have won, etc., but again, the Olympics might be an exception to that rule, too. As for "doing my own work" .... deletions are work. They are the first step to improving quality and reducing puff. You are welcome to help. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

University of Nebraska at Kearney

I noticed your recent edit to University of Nebraska at Kearney with the phrase 'boosterism galore' as part of the edit summary. Such a large deletion in a single edit is not optimal in that subsequent editors may find it difficult to change parts of the text added or deleted.

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In my opinion the deletions were were not al well thought out. As an example you changed, in the section 'notable people', you deleted 'olympic' from the description of a wrestler. 'Olympic wrestler' is what makes that person notable; he won a bronze medal at the 2012 Olympics in London.

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Judging by your edit summary, size of your single edit deletion, and number of perhaps disputable deletions, I suggest you be more careful, lest you find similar large deletions reverted rather selectively altered. It is always wise to do your own work thoroughly rather the shifting the burden to those who follow. I made a single change and reverted the rest.

Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 14:15, 16 April 2025 (UTC) —

:Thanks for your message. I take WP:BOLD to heart. But you're right, 14,000 is a rather large edit. The article was an exception because it has so many problems. But I will take another look and parce the edits for further consideration and discussion among editors. As for "notable" alums: we don't go into which competitions they have won, etc., but again, the Olympics might be an exception to that rule, too. As for "doing my own work" .... deletions are work. They are the first step to improving quality and reducing puff. You are welcome to help. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

University of Nebraska at Kearney

I noticed your recent edit to University of Nebraska at Kearney with the phrase 'boosterism galore' as part of the edit summary. Such a large deletion in a single edit is not optimal in that subsequent editors may find it difficult to change parts of the text added or deleted.

:

In my opinion the deletions were were not al well thought out. As an example you changed, in the section 'notable people', you deleted 'olympic' from the description of a wrestler. 'Olympic wrestler' is what makes that person notable; he won a bronze medal at the 2012 Olympics in London.

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Judging by your edit summary, size of your single edit deletion, and number of perhaps disputable deletions, I suggest you be more careful, lest you find similar large deletions reverted rather selectively altered. It is always wise to do your own work thoroughly rather the shifting the burden to those who follow. I made a single change and reverted the rest.

Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 14:15, 16 April 2025 (UTC) —

:Thanks for your message. I take WP:BOLD to heart. But you're right, 14,000 is a rather large edit. The article was an exception because it has so many problems. But I will take another look and parce the edits for further consideration and discussion among editors. As for "notable" alums: we don't go into which competitions they have won, etc., but again, the Olympics might be an exception to that rule, too. As for "doing my own work" .... deletions are work. They are the first step to improving quality and reducing puff. You are welcome to help. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for the very fine reply—I will take you up on your offer—puffery in educational institution is like kuduz, you can not kill it, only cut it back. I live in a state, Georgia, with lots of kudzu. It's said that lazy mules can be overtaken and smothered by the vine.

::The puffery starts with middle schools and runs through sections of departments of graduate schools.

::I am sorry, "doing your on work" did come over as harsh". I should have said that making huge edits make it difficult for any other editor to make changes to make changes to a small section (even you, if you decide to revisit). If anything, huge edits makes your initial work harder.

::Huge edits to an article attract attention of the wrong kind. Revenge editing at the younger end of the age range. Huge edits can, because there no individual edit summaries, discourage potential editors from participating further. It's a balancing act. Puffery in educational institution articles is easy to recognize, but the usual effect is that it's unencyclopedic, not misleading, information. Another approach is to add a hidden message, only seen while editing, to the section {{tq|<---Please see WP:XYZ--->}} or {{tq|<---Please pick persons for listing in a notable alumni section that will be known at some time outside your state or region for actions that are newsworthy--->}} (whatever message you find works best).

::In my opinion, Olympic medal winners are always good for notable lists; Members of the top, very selective professional organizations like the National Academy of Sciences; top tier awards for achievements in various fields such as the Fields Medal, Nobel Prize; well-known artists, producers, other creators, and agents for same, Academy Awards winners (any of EGOT awards); well-known journalists, national network anchors and commentators; multiple season players and coaches in top tier professional sports leagues; US governors, senators and representatives, Cabinet members and ambassadors, mayors of major cities; breakout businessmen, particularly those who established an industry (Bill Gates, Steve Jobs...), general officers of the US military, awardees of the top two medals of each US armed services branch; members of the federal judiciary. And lots more categories that may qualify.

::The above are just my opinion. I may have left out categories that I would give an easy pass. Do you know of any Wikipedia essays dealing with 'notable lists' for educational institutions? Or a group that targets puffery?

::For me, since I do not write articles, consider educating and encouraging potential productive editors is important. I tend to write long edit summaries where appropriate.

::— Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 15:51, 23 April 2025 (UTC) —

::p.s. I may be responsible for the duplicated sections. My latest OS update from Apple, to IOS 18.4, is causing problems. I've lost edits often; did not think duplicated sections were also happening. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 16:02, 23 April 2025 (UTC) —