User talk:Mr.Hanes

Blocked as a sockpuppet

{{checkuserblock-account|sig=Girth Summit (blether) 16:15, 23 March 2025 (UTC)|spi=WhiteReaperPM|indef=yes|master=WhiteReaperPM}}

Unblock Appeal

{{unblock|@{{u|Girth Summit}}, please, this has to be a misunderstanding, I just wanted to restore the legitimate version of the blocked sock which has actually no link to me. I had only one account, which I forgot password and username then started clean through Mr. Hanes. I was very well aware of sockpuppetery, please don't tag me with them, I don't want my career to end like this.Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 16:39, 23 March 2025 (UTC)}}

:This block is based partly on the behavioural evidence, and partly on technical evidence. I will leave this unblock request in place for another checkuser to review my findings with regard to that technical evidence. Girth Summit (blether) 16:46, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

::fwiw, while I admit my reaction to the block was "hm, I really should have known," if this is WhiteReaperPM his English has gotten a lot better rather quickly. -- asilvering (talk) 03:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:::Thanks for commenting and understanding a bit @{{u|asilvering}}, what more can I do to show that I'm distinguishable from WPM? Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 11:00, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:::{{u|asilvering}} tbh I don't really see what you're getting at about the improved English language skills. I don't claim to have done an extensive examination, but from the examples of talk page comments I've looked at, I'd rate them pretty similarly - they're both entirely comprehensible, but they both make frequent small grammatical errors and use some unusual phrasing. If you've done a deep dive into this, I'd be willing to consider it, but to be honest I'm pretty confident based on the technical data - I obviously can't disclose specifics, but it's about as strong as it's possible to be going purely off CU logs (since the old accounts are stale). Girth Summit (blether) 11:35, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

::::@Girth Summit maybe the CU technical evidence was showing off my abandoned account? For the similarity of languages, I suppose the common mistakes we make are not really concerning, considering non English speakers of en-1 to en-3 level often repeat the same errors. Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 11:54, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::I have not suggested that the similar level of language proficiency is a reason to think that the accounts are connected; rather, I have indicated that I don't observe enough of a difference to persuade me to doubt my conclusion that you previously edited through the WhiteReaperPM account (amongst others). The technical connection I see is between this current account and the WhiteReaperPM/Malik Kafur accounts.

:::::You still haven't indicated what the username of this abandoned account is by the way. Blocked sockpuppet accounts often claim that they previously edited under a different account but they forgot the name - it's a claim I generally find it very hard to give credence to. All you need to do is think about an article you edited under your old account, and go look through its contribution history to find your old account name. Girth Summit (blether) 12:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::I can't know how our Technical data matches, I'll just leave that to CUs. It won't take me more than hours to search up my abandoned account, please give me some time, I can find it shortly. Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 12:18, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::@Asilvering and @Girth Summit, I had this {{User|Ayushii Singh1}} account before I used to edit anonymously. I just had a feeling that I can find this account on either the edit history of Maurya or Nanda empire. Unfortunately I can't recall the password, but if needed I can sort out a way to do something in the meantime or would even try to login it (If required). Basically I'll do anything to prove that I'm not anyone's sock, thanks. Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 20:06, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::::That account is most probably stale. It's editing is very limited, but does not resemble your own. We don't have any way to establish whether that was you or not, so we don't need to take any action with regards to it, but I don't see how establishing that account was yours would help establish that you weren't WhiteReaperPM. Frankly, I don't have any doubt in my mind that that you are WhiteReaperPM, and I would advise you that your time would be better spent trying to understand what the problems with your editing have been (including the copyright concerns that were originally raised), and requesting unblock from that account under the WP:SO. Girth Summit (blether) 20:14, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::But please understand that I'm not him, evidently I have shown my previously abandoned account which was registered even before the whitereaper's registration - I used to edit as a newbie even before this. Please also re-examine the evidence given in the SPI, which I have below questioned. I'm asking politely and kindly to you who's a veteran and a renowned admin, I tend to hope that you'll give me the justice I deserve. To get an unblock under SO, I have to intentionally admit that I was a whitereaper's sock, which is clearly unjustified. Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 00:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

::::Certainly not different enough to overcome a technical confirmation, no. Mr.Hanes, if you are indeed WhiteReaperPM or any of the other blocked accounts: you're getting better at this. Why not go back to your original account and work your way through an unblock there? You can evidently overcome the issues that led to your initial block. You're just going to keep having your work get deleted if you keep on like this. Please come in from the cold.

::::If you aren't WhiteReaperPM... hard luck. CUs don't block lightly, so that's really very unlucky. In that case I suggest taking the standard offer, and coming back six months after this unblock is declined (assuming another CU declines it) to ask again. In the meantime, you're not blocked from all Wikipedia, just the English one, and you can work on other languages, on Commons, or whatever else interests you. -- asilvering (talk) 23:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::@Asilvering, @Girth Summit please let me contribute on simple wiki as I used to do, I was just blocked [https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mr.Hanes] recently by an admin citing the same SPI report, please do something. Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 13:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::I only have administrator privileges on this wiki - I have no authority to permit or prohibit any account to do anything on any other wiki. With that being said, given that I believe you are lying about not being the same person as was behind the WhiteReaperPM account, I would not be inclined to take any action in your favour with regards to editing privileges on other Wikimedia projects. Girth Summit (blether) 19:05, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::You could try to appeal your block on simple-wiki, but it has a "one strike" rule, so I don't think that will get you very far. Better to take the standard offer from this Wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 23:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

:*Just want to add for my defence and clarification:

I have made more than 5,500+ edits and only few edits have been found overlapping with the tagged sock. I would have never messed with those similar edits, if only it was about to used against me for behavioural evidence. There's a [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=1281982766#Creations_by_banned_or_blocked_users_--_must_they_always_be_speedily_deleted_per_WP:G5? discussion] going on ANI which somewhat relates to my situation here, please see it as well. Why am I being questioned when all I did was add partially or wholly the actual good edits whether done by a sock or not? Moreover I started my Wikipedia career from Simple Wikipedia on 24 october, much after the block of Whitereaper or any other of his socks. Please also keep these things in evaluation.Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 17:37, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

::Evidence evaluation from my pov:

  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1281288087][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1241326983]- Yes Similar but not exact, and this information of 400k casualties is well known in the history books and well discussed Off-wiki internet, other users have also added the same casualty figure [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maratha_invasions_of_Bengal&diff=prev&oldid=1281270006][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maratha_invasions_of_Bengal&diff=prev&oldid=1279032592], so they should be sock tagged with me? This just shows that this topic and the casualty issue is influxive and unstable which keeps adding and reverting by Wikipedia editors.
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1276411670][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1219489558]- If I'd have added the same main article then it'd been an actual behavioural evidence, but it's quite clear that both are different.
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1281450094][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1242894137]- Yet again, both articles are different, how is this a behavioural evidence?
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1245315993][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1280244991]- This makes me feel bad and discouraged that only diffs of the addition of different categories can get you blocked for sockpuppetery. That would mean we can link to every category addition diffs and its user with whitereaper?
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1245315923][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1280245135]- Same as above, it's not even similar categories let alone exact.
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1217339835][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1281452562]- This I have already indirectly acknowledged that I was reinstating the good edits by socks on Maratha–Sikh clashes.
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1219883629][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1281749486]- Again not a similar articles thus not a concrete evidence.
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1277889637][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1252867297]- Please whyy?? Over dozen of editors have made the similar edits on the page, but why only me out of all of them?
  • This is just a straight miss- [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1206589482 It's "commander2"] and this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1281294521 "combatant2"], both are differentiable.
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1280245372]- I didn't even knew that article was made by socks, even if I added the category then how does it makes me his sock?
  • [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1280614244][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1218856450]- Ah.. over 100s if not thousands of editors would have made the similar "commander" edits, but why me?

Clearly these diffs are not showing any substantial evidence of me being whitereaper, please show some empathy towards me, I have worked day and night to build my Wikipedia career, it would be no use if I get indefed like this.Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 18:57, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Jat Rebellion (1667–1723)]]

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Unblock Appeal

{{unblock reviewed |1=@Yamla, please, this has to be a misunderstanding, I just wanted to restore the legitimate version of the blocked sock which has actually no link to me. I had only one account, which I forgot password and username then started clean through Mr. Hanes. I was very well aware of sockpuppetery, please don't tag me with them, I don't want my career to end like this. Mr.Hanes File:Speech bubble icon.svg Talk 11:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC) |decline = Procedural decline; you already have an open unblock request. Additionally, I haven't the slightest idea why you are pinging me. Near as I can tell, I've never interacted with this account. Yamla (talk) 12:51, 25 March 2025 (UTC)}}

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corporation

Sir, you accepted an edit that now states that corporations are "associations." This is factually incorrect. Partnerships are associations. Corporations are entities onto themselves that own property and contract in their own name. Shareholders are not members of an association. Voting does not confer membership, although in member corporations, like a unions and guilds, members may have the right to vote. I refer you to the first publicly traded corporation, the VOC, where shareholders never had the right to vote. I ask that you inform yourself with works (and videos) by David Ciepley such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3yH3XkY_iw 2601:646:200:F8B0:114C:C9A3:5D34:D0E5 (talk) 22:27, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

:This user is blocked. It was unnecessary to add sections here. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talkcontribs) 22:35, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

::Well he accepted a terrible edit and since I have no clue about wikipedia, I don't know what else to do but state what I did. Maybe you can fix the edit I mention above. 2601:646:200:F8B0:114C:C9A3:5D34:D0E5 (talk) 23:48, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

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