User talk:Oingoboing69

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Hi there. I checked the edit where you were trying to insert it and see that you got reverted by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islam_in_Canada&diff=214012077&oldid=214010729 Cream]. I'm not sure why Cream reverted the edit instantly, as it was not vandalism. The only issue may be that it is not exactly the best idea to write a media section devoted to one show. Why not do a little more digging and discover other shows that feature being Muslim in Canada? Another recommendation I would have is to make sure your edit has a neutral point of view. The parts of your edit that struck more as an opinion was these two sentences:

"The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation has developed a fare amount of programing that shares a unique perspective of live as an Muslim in Canada."

and

"Iranian-born filmmaker Saide Kardar takes us into Toronto's Muslim community in Home Grown Muslims and provides viewers with a provocative and candid look at the conflict of identity among young Muslims living in Canada."

Clean up the tone of them by removing the "us"'s as well as comments like "unique," "provocative," and "candid." If the edit gets reverted once more, try the article talk page and request the opinion of other editors of whether it would be a good addition. The best way to make an edit "stick" is to collaborate with the other prominent editors of the article.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 02:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool, Thanks for the tips.--Oingoboing69 (talk) 05:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)Oingoboing69

Check out WP:Barnstar Toddst1 (talk) 21:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The problem is he doesn't look WP:Notable which is different from famous. The sources aren't Wp:Reliable. Toddst1 (talk) 21:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Guide to deletion#You may edit the article during the discussion. DoubleBlue (Talk) 02:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I see you've been leaving messages about the Nelson Chan AfD. Please read WP:CANVAS and be careful of your wording. Also, you didn't respond on my talk page - what do you mean by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Delicious_carbuncle&diff=214252024&oldid=214226920 "vandalism battle"]? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

:Hi Delicious carbuncle, please can we stop Wikipedia:No angry mastodons, and just allow things to progress. peace???

please Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers--Oingoboing69 (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

:I apologise if you feel like I was "biting" you or being uncivil - that's not at all my intention. Please answer my question, though, because I honestly don't know what you meant by "vandalism battle" and I think you may misunderstand why I nominated the article for AfD. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

::Delicious carbuncle , I just left you a message on your user talk. - cut and pasted back from your page.

::Im sorry I missed your message, I read on your comments (→Nelson Chan: this is starting to irritate me), so I just wanted to reframe from esculating anything. just trying to resolve a trying to resolve a [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]] and Wikipedia:Assume good faith :)--Oingoboing69 (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

:::I've already replied on my talk page with a question. It would be nice if we could do this in one place or the other. You choose which. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

::: Delicious carbuncle let stay here then, as I've mentioned to User talk:Toddst1

:::::It's not that I wish these Articles to be taken away, ( I'm speaking about Justin Stephenson,Oli Goldsmith. Nelson Chan), It's just seems odd that it was always focused and revolved around one particular Article. I just want to these HArd working Artists to be reckonized.

Thanks..(I'll put it infront of my sig this time.)--Oingoboing69 (talk) 23:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

::: I just wish to procede onwards with this article or it would be Wikipedia:Disruptive editing and have a Wikipedia:Dispute resolution--Oingoboing69 (talk) 18:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I just reviewed some dialog on User talk:Delicious carbuncle, Talk:Nelson_Chan and this page. Can I make a suggestion? You might want to cut carbuncle some slack. He or she seems to be trying hard to do the right thing for wikipedia, and frankly he/she seems to be trying to talk to you respectfully. Accusing him/her of misbehavior like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Delicious_carbuncle&diff=prev&oldid=214469573 this] and reposting it [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nelson_Chan&diff=prev&oldid=214470287 here] isn't really constructive and will only lead to further ill feelings. In fact, some of the stuff you have said could be considered a personal attack. I doubt that's how you meant it. Don't take his (or my) position on this article personally. I'm assuming you're not Chan and don't have any COI here so that shouldn't be a problem. I hope this helps. Toddst1 (talk) 20:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I suspect that [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Baroness_of_Morden&diff=prev&oldid=214315638 this] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dl2000&diff=prev&oldid=214316589 this] are the reasons you have been warned to be careful not to canvass. Those messages were pretty close to campaigning but I don't think you went far enough for an official warning, nor do I think User:Delicious carbuncle intended to give an official warning, just a friendly notice to a new user about the Canvassing policy. As WP:CANVASS says, you need to be careful to be open and unbiased and not campaign for people to vote. A friendly query to a user or two who you think may be able to help you improve the article is fine as is an open notice about the discussion to users on both sides of the issue as I did [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Canada&diff=prev&oldid=214343262 here].

In order for this article to meet Wikipedia content policies, it should meet the WP:BIO guidelines and include independent, reliable sources. I don't see how any of the references you have meet those guidelines and I am sure that you appreciate that it is particularly important that biographies of living people have verifiable, reliable sources of information. {{Find sources|Nelson Chan}}. Cheers! DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

:: Thanks Toddst1 and (Doubleblue)

I will Procede with Addtions to verify the Nelson Chan Article, then onwards with Michael Kuss and Chris Potter. Please Advise on how we can better and sustain these Articles.

I assume you are capable of editing the article during semi-protection - if not, let me know. I would start with finding at least one very WP:Reliable source that covers this individual in depth. I mean read what it says in WP:Reliable. If you can't find one that solidly fits the bill (IMDB doesn't cut it) stop there. If you do find one, add it to the article as support of WP:Notability. If you do that sucessfully, I will be glad to change my opinion at AfD. Do NOT add something that is borderline reliable. Toddst1 (talk) 22:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool thanks Todd, do these serve the purpose.

• [http://mvdbase.com/tech.php?last=Chan&first=Nelson MVDBASE] of Nelson Chan]
• [http://www.bravofact.com/shorts/details.asp?ANDOR=AND&DisciplineID=0&projectID=2737&provID=8&searchStatus=active&searchText=link

BravoFact! link] to Nelson Chan's short film Tales of the Baroness

• [http://littleslean.blogspot.com/2005_05_01_archive.html coverage on and screenshots] Nelson Chan's video on ETALK Thanks. --Oingoboing69 (talk) 22:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

:Here he is a a bravofact award winner. [http://www.bravofact.com/announcements/latestNews.asp?story_id=17771 Barvofact Encyblapidic ]

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