User talk:Orlady/Archive 16#Precious

Hi Orlady. A WP:COI full disclosure: a 58 family member was short-listed for the prize... at some time recently. I looked it up, and there wasn't even an article for it. There, I've said it. That wasn't so bad after all! xxx --Shirt58 (talk) 15:42, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

:As COI goes, that's pretty minor! --Orlady (talk) 18:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry for the duplicate tag. I actually meant only the first one.

I guess you assume it was steam distillation because that's the method that's currently used for distilling witch hazel? That might be true, but from one of the links you sent (WP:V), shouldn't a source be provided to verify the opinion that was added to the entry (since it isn't in the source that was cited)? That was the reason for my citation request.

Of course, New Haven Business Magazine is a rather questionable source for information that I don't think is backed by reputable sources. Even E.E. Dickenson's "Indians' Secret" pamphlet states that it was Hawes who did the distillation, not the Native Americans.

--71.200.35.243 (talk) 02:22, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

25px Hello! Your submission of Coins 'n Things at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 04:02, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

:Joining in the good wishes, with 10,000 Easter eggs as a present (see my talk if you don't now from DYK), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of 1983 America's Cup: The End of an Era. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

:You might be interested in [http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=259 this]. 31.185.201.32 (talk) 17:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Hi: I was about to tell User:Catamount800 that I had changed the hook for this article in prep, but unless I'm misreading, you came up with the "U.S. citizenship" wording, where at the nominations page it was "undocumented"? I agree "undocumented" is less than clear, but it's not just a matter of citizenship; it's a matter of having a valid residency visa if they aren't citizens. So I changed it to "legal U.S. residency", leaving it still short enough. I hope you don't mind; thought I'd let you know in case you did. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for fixing that. "Undocumented" clearly didn't work, as it's jargon that doesn't mean what the individual words mean. Your version is more accurate than mine was. --Orlady (talk) 21:06, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Positive additions to an article are not what the DYK rules mean when they say "unstable". They mean, as Tony stated, edit warring. Because you were involved in the prior conversation regarding the article, I can only assume that this delay for such a pointless reason is both purposeful and vindictive. Silverseren^C 03:09, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

:Are you currently still opposing the article? Could you comment on the talk and clear this up.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:56, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Kitten-stare.jpg

You do a fantastic amount of work on WP:DYK and should be commended for your efforts. Good on ya. :)

LauraHale (talk) 05:01, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to comment on Zanzibar women's national football team and to help resolve these issues. It is very much appreciated. --LauraHale (talk) 23:39, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

:No problem. Interesting topic... --Orlady (talk) 00:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I have suggested an alternate hook for the article that does not use the SPS, see Template:Did you know nominations/H-13 (Michigan county highway). Dough4872 04:04, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Ncristella is at it again (twice today). Could you follow through on your blocking threat? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

:Beat you to it. (I blocked him before you wrote the above message.) --Orlady (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Orlady, BlueMoonset suggested that you are the person to offer me an opinion on my DYK nomination. Particularly, the use of primary sources for specific details not reported on in secondary sources. More generally, are there any changes I should make to move this nomination along? If you could please that a look at that nomination I would be very appreciative. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 18:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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}} Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Briefly following up on the German word 'Nachrichten' (news). My comment at WT:DYK was more along the lines of listings such as the one at News (disambiguation), and whether a similar listing there for German publications containing the equivalent word for 'news' would be useful or not. I know that some churches where the German and other names are equivalent are listed at such pages (e.g. St. Laurence's Church), and I've found that helpful in the past when looking up something on such matters. Carcharoth (talk) 06:32, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hey {{PAGENAME}} :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm updating User:MBisanz/Recall and was wondering if you would be willing to serve as a clerk? MBisanz ^talk 21:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

:Gentle nudge. MBisanz ^talk 15:33, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Dear Orlady: I put a note on my talk page. I appreciate your watching over DYKs, as they are (typically) new and not monitored by hardly anyone. So what you do is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitzvah_goreret_mitzvah mitzvah]. Keep up the good work. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:16, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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}} Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/1911 Michigan Wolverines football team? I'm just pretty tired of it and it may need new eyes. I'm not feeling generous on QPQ right now considering the rather big backlog. I feel like I've reviewed 10 to 15 and there isn't anything getting closer to the backlog of unreviewed articles because of lack of QPQ requirements on a huge bunch of nominations... --LauraHale (talk) 12:14, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for copyediting Mexican barbasco trade and catching my sloppy referencing. I guess i used page 37 in another article and just copied the entire citation without realizing that I was basically just referencing one page when i meant to reference the whole book, or at least longer passages. Thanks!·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

:All part of reviewing it for DYK! (Page 37 is the source for the DYK hook.) --Orlady (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

::Ah yes - it was originally sourced as page 72-73 which I had used for another article. Then I just changed it to the correct page, but then all the citations came to lead to that page. Thanks again.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I sourced the section and added a hook suggestion. SL93 (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

:Well, I verified everything except the quotes. It looks like they are in the video which I won't watch or source to the time. With the discussions going on the DYK page, I'm not sure if someone will say that I didn't technically review it even though I'm not inclined to work on an article. SL93 (talk) 02:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey Orlady! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:45, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

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}} Carabinieri (talk) 08:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, are you the reviewer of this nom? I put a note on the template page a few days ago. Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:51, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

:Done. Thanks for the reminder. --Orlady (talk) 13:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

When you get a chance, take a look at the Maryville article under the private/parochial section. Some anon user is suggesting the Apostolic Christian Academy a scam. I'm not sure whether to remove the school, or if the website he references is a hit job. Bms4880 (talk) 13:25, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

:I removed the anonymous user's POV and the non-WP:EL compliant link. I couldn't see any content on that website, but all other indications are that it's a real school, albeit likely a deficient school. --Orlady (talk) 13:44, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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}} Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your review of the article and DYK, and continued efforts to come up with a good hook! It was evading me.Parkwells (talk) 11:28, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I am here as you were part of a previously Rfd discussion HERE. Based on the comments on the Rfd, I believe that this article could have been saved if it was cited better and written more in Wikipedia styling and formatting (Wikified article HERE). I have made substantial improvements to the article and reposted it. As you part of the discussion for Rfd (either you nominated or took part in the Rfd discussion), I wanted to personally notify you. While this is not an official Rfc, I would appreciate any feedback that you may have. I have not notified the original creator of the article as it does not look like they have made any contributions on Wikipedia since the article was deleted. --Morning277 (talk) 18:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey all :). A notification that the prototype for the New Pages Feed is now live on enwiki! We had to briefly take it down after an unfortunate bug started showing up, but it's now live and we will continue developing it on-site.

The page can be found at Special:NewPagesFeed. Please, please, please test it and tell us what you think! Note that as a prototype it will inevitably have bugs - if you find one not already mentioned at the talkpage, bring it up and I'm happy to carry it through to the devs. The same is true of any additions you can think of to the software, or any questions you might have - let me know and I'll respond.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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}} Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Orlady, in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carrick%2C_Tasmania&diff=494412637&oldid=494372721 this edit] I'm confused by the addition of a top level heading that encompasses no content. Is that what you intended ? - Peripitus (Talk) 05:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

:Fixed error. --Orlady (talk) 12:42, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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}} Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The caps change seems OK, but Episcopal dioceses are not necessarily named after the seat city; indeed, few of them are. Therefore the "D.C." part is incorrect and the renamed category should be :Category:Episcopal bishops of Washington with only the capitalization changed. Mangoe (talk) 04:09, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

After seeing a new editor at the list of unregistered etc, I noticed their edits at List of universities in the Republic of Ireland and removed a bogus university with no campus in Ireland. I'm wondering if the whole list needs cleaning, I see a lot of red links. Dougweller (talk) 06:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

We may need to lock this article. Bms4880 (talk) 21:56, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow! That's so cool. Thanks for letting me know! el3ctr0nika (Talk | Contribs) 10:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Orlady. I'd like to improve my contributions to DYK and am simply curious about what you meant by your edit summary when swapping the hook in Prep area 4. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ADid_you_know%2FPreparation_area_4&diff=495387114&oldid=495245974]. Quote (summary): "...the license status of the proposed image hook here is not clear." Please tell me, what kind of licence status would make it work for you? It might be important for my future noms also. Thanks in advance. Poeticbent talk 14:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

:::{{color|gray|Regarding the images, unfortunately, there was no indication at Commons of where and when the photographs were first published. We know when the photographs were made, but there is no indication that they were published early enough to qualify as "free" images now. --Orlady (talk) 14:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)}}

:*Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your concerns. By the way, image used as replacement, i.e. :File:Kaas Niels.jpg, apparently did not have any information about the first publication either. To me, the license status looks virtually identical in both cases, no visible improvement from the image used before. Please tell me, have I overlooked something else? Poeticbent talk 16:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

::Addendum: Some of the portals I use for uploading actually specialize in scanning historical images, for example the government run http://audiovis.nac.gov.pl/ (as in DYK :File:Tadeusz Lehr-Splawinski.jpg, DYK :File:Nowy Targ 1940 - Dom Niemiecki (German Stationhouse).jpg and DYK :File:Ferdynand Goetel (1936).jpg among others including the latest :File:ORMO (Warsaw, 1946).jpg). The online scans provided by NAC similar to Bundesarchiv, constitute a digital library of pics never before published. At Commons, we are suppose to reveal where and when the photographs were first published as if there was anything more to say. That is a bit confusing perhaps. Thanks again. Poeticbent talk 20:23, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

::::Believe me, the situation gave me pain. To be featured in DYK, an image must have a "free" license, which generally means the same thing as a license acceptable to Commons. Commons often needs information about the location and date of the first publication of an image because the copyright status in many jurisdictions is determined from that information. The selected license for the photos you uploaded at Commons requires that the photo have been published in Poland before 1994 without a copyright notice. The images that you uploaded at Commons were obviously created in 1940, but Commons had no indication of when they were first published, and I couldn't find that information on the websites that you credited when you uploaded the files. I believe that the photos qualify as free, but I could not prove it. The Commons page has a message saying "To uploader: Please provide where and when the image was first published", as that information is needed to verify that the license is valid.

::::The other issue is the image :File:Kaas Niels.jpg. I researched that one, too, and I agree with you that the Commons documentation for that image is not perfect. The selected license for that image has a copyright term of "life of the author plus 70 years". The author (that is the painter of the portrait) is unknown, so we cannot know for sure when that person died. However, the creator needs to have died before 1942. The information at Commons indicated that the image was published in a Danish book in 1912. That by itself establishes a strong likelihood that the author died before 1942. More importantly, though, everything about the artwork in that portrait is consistent with the portrait having been created in the 16th century (during the life of the subject). Considering that evidence, I concluded that the image qualified, in spite of the lack of documentation on the painter. --Orlady (talk) 00:26, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

:Orlady, I really need to talk it over with you, because there's a potential for an on-going problem, as the resources available to us online expand. The requirement of some first publication (whatever that means), probably a brick and mortar book or something, is redundant in case of databases such as the Bundesarchiv and NAC. The images digitized by them are free. They are all GDFL compliant. However, none of them have a record of being used previously. In fact, I have met with Vancouver Public Library director of public archives not long ago (as part of Wikipedia loves libraries initiative), and I know that massive transfer of data directly to Commons from public archives can be made (including manually, by volunteers like you and I). The images are all good to go at DYK, because of the already expired copyright. There is no reason to expect problems when using this procedure. Thanks. Poeticbent talk 03:46, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

::I'm not a good person to discuss this with, as I am not closely engaged with maintaining copyright information for images. It sounds like we need to find a licensing expert at Commons to help resolve your questions. --Orlady (talk) 03:53, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Orlady, I was wondering if you could take a look at this one. There were some close paraphrasing issues, including structural constructs, which Nikkimaria eventually dug in a reworded herself, but she wanted a check on her work, and no one's stopped by. This isn't something I really understand, so I don't feel qualified to do so. It's been sitting since May 24. There was also a caveat entered by Carabinieri as to whether a 50,000 ton press could be the biggest machine if there were 59,000 ton aircraft carriers; it'd be nice to have an independent voice as to whether ALT1 is necessary or not. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

:Later addition: Nikkimaria thinks that Template:Did you know nominations/Long Point (Cape Cod) needs an uninvolved eye to take a look at tone in the article; there's a disagreement between her and the nominator. Again, I'm not up on the nuances of tone, so I thought of you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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}} Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help here :) Eshlare (talk) 17:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I am reaching out to try and discuss your opinions expressed in the talk section and the main article. Since the PWU California page redirects to the CMU page and people who look to Wikipedia as a reliable source of information may be searching for how they can obtain PWU official transcripts and documents for their employers or for other academic institutions, I am trying to have the article reflect this type of information. Readers of the article need to know that CMU is considered a separate institution by accreditation, that Education Services is the custodian of their education records and that the State of California recognizes ES as this custodian, so they know the documents they may be getting from ES are official. A footnote isn't enough as most readers never click on these items. Your edits removing some of this more important information do not serve the readers of the main article. I'm not sure why you have such a strong opinion against PWU, the California Bureau (past and present) and Education Service. If you would like to share this information I would be willing to listen and respond. I am not trying to defend PWU California as much as I am trying to present a two sided account of some the PWU California history. It was a California State Approved schools and although the State had faults, that status was worth something. Wikipedia encourages diverse opinions in an article. In fact, they feel the different opinions make articles stronger. You can strongly disagree with issues, but it doesn't mean that my different opinions should be hindered or edited out. That just leads to the kind of edit wars that got this article restricted in the first place. We can go to arbitration before we go that route. I am only trying to include incomplete information or parts of previously cited reports and materials that can clarify matters and shed a different, perhaps more balanced light on the Article. If there was an error in the GAO report, I'm not trying to sweep the whole report under the rug, I'm trying to fairly represent all the facts. There were degree mills, I just don't believe PWU California particularly after State Approval was one of them. (PWU Hawaii is a different matter.) I believe the materials I am adding should be included. If I state something badly or you want to rewrite a portion of a post to make it better or more unbiased, that is fine. A total reversion of posts with no real explanation only seems to show an attitude of "if I don't agree with something, it's not in the article." My purpose is that I do think that CMU is a good institution and is deserving of some legitimate distancing from the pre 2005 PWU regime. If graduates were graduates of PWU California, they should be included in the article. If they were graduates of another PWU program, or you can't tell which PWU school they attended, they should not be included. I look forward to your response and hope we can coexist peacefully and to the betterment of Wikipedia and the main article.Angelone7749 (talk) 19:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

:Based on the above comment and the complaints you posted about me on User talk:Keilana, I gather that one of your concerns is about your desire for the article to aid former PWU students in identifying "Education Services" as the official custodian of records for PWU - California and finding its contact information. (That is far from the only area of conflict associated with your edits to California Miramar University, but that's what you told Keilana about. I'll respond to that one issue first.) Please be aware that Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, is not a guidebook or directory on any topic and does not exist to provide directory information of any sort. See WP:NOT for more details. The footnote in the article regarding the records custodian for PWU is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. If you want to create an online guide for former PWU students, please find another platform (for example, you probably could create a Facebook page). --Orlady (talk) 20:37, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

::Thank you for your quick response and suggestions. This was the type of feedback I was seeking. I do not feel that adding detail to a post automatically makes it qualify as a guidebook or a directory but I can see your overall point. It is appropriate that you noticed the post to Keilana. I await your responses to my other questions and comments in the near future.Angelone7749 (talk) 00:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

:::Further to my comments, I have to agree that the bare-URL reference citation pointing to http://www.bppe.ca.gov/transcripts/custodian_records.shtml is not real helpful. It's also not the way Wikipedia likes to see references cited. (That's why articles sometimes have :Template:bare urls placed on them.) If you want to increase the information value of the article, I suggest that you look up the URL, find the details that belong in a reference citation, and add them to the article. The "bare urls" template that I linked to includes advice on what to do. --Orlady (talk) 00:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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I'm wondering if you would like to be involved in this as a consultant. Please see My suggestion at Signpost and Viriditas response and suggestion. The gist of this is that I find the DYK process an ongoing education. A hands-on experience that can't be beat for learning the ropes of building an article. The learning continues with each article I get involved with over there. Viriditas suggests I author a Special Report for Signpost, involving a DYK admin and someone from Signpost. Let me know what you think.Maile66 (talk) 22:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

:A worthy idea. In principle, I'd like to help, but I'm covered up in real life for the next few weeks. --Orlady (talk) 13:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thnx for the protection on Robert Lewandowski, was frustrating just trying to keep order on it. --> Halmstad, Charla to moi 15:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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You have a request at RFPP. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Jacqueline_Fernandez_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 Jacqueline Fernandez]. Regards, Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 10:13, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You an administrator who is quite active at WP:DYK, so I wanted to call your attention to a particularly timely hook for the next queue Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Possible_Queue_6_late_substitution_or_addition. You may want to make a late addition or substitution.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

My intent in the shortened hook was that the "J. McCarthy started racing" would evoke Joe McCarthy, in hope of the hook landing in the "quirky last position". Since it didn't though, no worries on the expansion - not being the last spot makes the 'normal' spelling better. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi

I just noticed your post on the talk page of Shopping Mall (here). Did you take your suggestions any further?

I ask because I am curious about the etymology of the word/phrase "mall/shopping mall". For example I cannot find anything that refers to "mall" prior to the 1960s as meaning anything other than a tree lined walk, with the exception of pall-mall which is taken supposedly from the game.

Most reliable info I can see gives the latest shopping "mall" definition as being from the 1960s. Indeed the article itself says "One of the earliest examples includes the Valley Fair Shopping Center in Appleton WI which opened in March 1955", which shows that the phrase used was still "shopping center" at that point. Chaosdruid (talk) 22:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "International Technological University". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 16:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Orlady, a couple of DYK reviews you've made have just gotten responses. One is the Sonne review in the header. Another is the Template:Did you know nominations/Cristiada (film) DYK. I found these while trying to finish a cleanup on all the remaining May DYK noms, plus the first couple of days of June. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 05:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

:Did both. --Orlady (talk) 07:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks! Did you notice that both have already been chosen for Prep 4? BlueMoonset (talk) 14:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

You wrote "Article and ALT1 are OK."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Cristiada_(film)&diff=498627016&oldid=498611392] What did you do to verify Alt1? ? Hipocrite (talk) 12:12, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

See the talk page. I think it still has only 2 accredited campuses, and it seems to be the same as Preston University. It's still on the Oregon list - either they are confused or our article is wrong. Dougweller (talk) 09:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Orlady, just visiting from exile. A category I created is now up for deletion. I made a small attempt to explain and defend it, but the trend seems to be that "poignant" though it is, we just can't have this kind of trash on Wikipedia. I do think the category should be kept, but am not fond of pitched battles and would rather walk away than put myself through what I did on DYK. I wasn't going to bother you with it, but decided today to let and Gerda you know about this, in case you want to weigh in. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 18#Category:People who as children were orphaned by Nazism. Marrante (talk) 19:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

:Somehow, I forgot to add a header to this yesterday. Whoops. Marrante (talk) 05:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)