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Happy editing! Mellk (talk) 07:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I noticed that you are particularly interested in the history of the Dirlewanger unit. I recommend checking out some works by a young Polish historian named Hubert Kuberski. He specializes in the history of the Dirlewanger unit and is known for primarily working with German, Nazi-era primary sources. Some of his works, published in peer-reviewed books and journals, include:

• Hubert Kuberski. Kryminaliści w mundurach. Powstanie i operacje pacyfikacyjne SS–Sonderkommando Dirlewanger na terenach Polski i Białorusi (1940–1944). „Glaukopis”. 15, 2009. ISSN 1730-3419.
• Hubert Kuberski. SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger na okupowanych terenach Białorusi (marzec–grudzień 1942). „Przegląd Środkowo-Wschodni”. 4, 2019. Wrocław: Uniwersytet Wrocławski. ISSN 2300-7249.
• Hubert Kuberski. Unternehmen „Hermann” – pacyfikacja Puszczy Nalibockiej z perspektywy SS-Sonderbataillon Dirlewanger. „Studia nad Autorytaryzmem i Totalitaryzmem”. 44 (2), 2022. Warszawa: Wydawnictwo Uniwersytetu Wrocławskiego. ISSN 2300-7249.
• Hubert Kuberski. Walki SS-Sonderregiment Dirlewanger o Wolę a egzekucje zbiorowe ludności cywilnej. „Dzieje Najnowsze”. LIII (1), 2021. ISSN 0419-8824.
• Hubert Kuberski: Zniszczenie Chatynia podczas wiosennej kampanii „Bandenbekämpfung” na Łohojszczyźnie. In: Tadeusz Gawin (ed.): Polacy na Białorusi od powstania styczniowego do XXI wieku. T. IV: Rok 1920 na tle przełomów politycznych XX wieku. Warszawa: Studium Europy Wschodniej Uniwersytetu Warszawskiego, 2020. ISBN 978-83-61325-81-9.

You may find all these works online[https://glaukopis.pl/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/glaukopis_nr_15.pdf][https://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/element/bwmeta1.element.desklight-e5596cef-1b92-4a10-809c-04a5d32c816b][https://wuwr.pl/sfzh/article/view/14790/13354][https://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/element/bwmeta1.element.ojs-doi-10_12775_DN_2021_1_06][https://www.academia.edu/88996795/Zniszczenie_Chatynia_podczas_wiosennej_kampanii_Bandenbek%C3%A4mpfung_na_%C5%81ohojszczy%C5%BAnie_Destruction_of_Khatyn_during_the_spring_campaign_Bandenbek%C3%A4mpfung_in_the_Logoysk_region_]. Of course, the language barrier might be challenging, but in my opinion, it is worth trying. Cheers.Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 16:49, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:Hi! Thank you for sharing these works. I recently heard about Hubert's research and had the chance to read one of his works. It was truly insightful, and I’m eager to explore more. Language barrier is not a problem, so I’ll definitely look deeper into his writings. I appreciate the recommendation! Oymey (talk) 21:50, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

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I am translating from this article to Chinese so... could you tell me about your edit plan? Thanks. Kurgenera (talk) 16:07, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:ex3:I hope you could sort the article... because the "history" part is so loooooong＼(-___________-;)/

:{{See also|24th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Karstjäger}}

:It's a FA which can help you. Kurgenera (talk) 16:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, Kurgenera!

:I'm sorry for the late reply. For editing Dirlewanger Brigade page, I started by reading up on the latest sources available about the unit. Then, I added information bit by bit, making sure each section was backed by reliable sources and citations. I didn’t rush the process, but instead took my time to gradually expand the article while making sure it stayed accurate.

:Accuracy was key, especially when referring to the unit’s different periods. For example, it would be wrong to call it “SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger” for certain years, as that name was only used between 19 December 1944 to 15 February 1945. I made sure to use the correct name for each period, like “SS-Sonderregiment Dirlewanger” for the time from 1 May to 19 December 1944.

:I also made sure to add citations at the end of every sentence or major point to keep the article well-supported by solid sources.

:The key to all of this was just taking it slow—adding little bits over time, rather than trying to write everything at once. This helped me keep the article detailed, accurate, and well-researched.

:If you got any question, just ask. I would gladly to share what i had studied. Also, checking out the [https://forum.axishistory.com/search.php?sid=cf521d04289abcfde4b4529dac94bec3 Axis History Forum] can be a good idea too, especially since Historian Douglas E. Nash, who wrote the latest book about the unit, is active there and contributes valuable insights. I could give you my reading material if you want though it is for private use only.

:Best,

:Oymey Oymey (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::(addition) {{ping|Oymey}} you can move something from the Section "Operational history" into a new section "War Crimes". :)-- Kurgenera (talk) 13:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:::That would work since other Waffen SS division page had that heading section. However, it would take me a few days to complete it since their crimes is countless. Maybe I could list some. I'll work on it

:::Best,

:::@ Oymey (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

ex: I'm interested in Dirlewanger too so I translated_(:з」∠)_ 16:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

ex2: Having read your userpage😂 all because of TNO 16:13, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Can you provide a page number for the source by MacLean, French L. (1998). The cruel hunters: SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger, Hitler's most notorious anti-partisan unit. Schiffer military history. Atglen, PA: Schiffer Pub. ISBN 978-0-7643-0483-5. Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:49, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:Page 201. Yes, I understand that Maclean only write that "he was given an audience with Hans Frank..."

:However, in Nash's book, "The Defeat of the Damned" on Chapter 2: [From Regiment to Brigade], the first citation in the endnotes actually states that Dirlewanger received his award on 16 October 1944.

:I'm unable to access to the hard cover book and the only alternative i had is by using the website "Everand". Due to different page formatting, the page was differ than the original. Oymey (talk) 08:26, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::When you say he received the award, do you mean the presentation of the award? In multiple instances the award was authorized prior to its presentation. Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 19:27, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:::By 'received,' I mean the date of presentation — 16 October — when Hans Frank personally awarded Dirlewanger the Knight’s Cross. The recommendation was submitted earlier, on 30 September, but the actual decoration was not presented until mid-October

:::Best Oymey (talk) 15:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: Okay, the list of KC recipients lists the "date of award", meaning when did Hitler authorize the award, and not the "date of presentation". Hans Frank may have presented the award, but it was not him to have authorized it. Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Oh. Now I understand.

:::::That would be my mistake then. Thank you for clarifying it.

:::::Best Oymey (talk) 19:04, 1 May 2025 (UTC)