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Hello, @RevolutionaryPatriot. Are you connected to the account User:Kamal Afghan01 ? ThethPunjabi (talk) 04:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:no, but i recognize the name from when i was on Afghan Articles. Why? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 12:22, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
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File:Nuvola apps important.svg Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at :Battle of Gandgarh, you may be blocked from editing. Remsense留 08:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
:Battle of Gandgarh was an Afghan Victory, it was changed to Sikh victory for the outlined reason that the previous contributors were banned socket accounts, for this purpose he changed the battle result? It was at 21:16, 13 July 2023. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 08:50, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
::Note that multiple other editors have added in the 'Afghan Victory' part, which was the actual conclusion. Are you going to approach them about vandalism too? Lmao RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 08:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
::This was my bad, I did not use adequate discrimination, but it was in the context of many edits which are unacceptable on Wikipedia regarding WP:NPOV. You make a lot of worthwhile edits, but it is important to use encyclopedic language. Remsense留 08:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
File:Stop hand nuvola.svg You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at :Kalu Khan Yousafzai. Remsense留 08:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
:Will not respond to that, please realise that these pages can be viewed by anyone and save yourself some embarrassment. Now i'm telling you, stop tampering with a Wikipedia article and my contributions. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 08:51, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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More evidence that the Daoud emblem needs to be reverted. Your version was accurate.
1) Search up “Sardar Mohammed Dawood khan 1974” by Pamir Studio Tv (on YouTube) and skip to 10:55 (I apologize for the inconvenience, it won’t let me link you to YouTube) 2) This pin ==> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195745866178 3) Please feel free to zoom in on this Afghan government almanac from 1974. http://afghandata.org:8080/xmlui/handle/azu/15354 4) Same for the 1975 almanachttp://afghandata.org:8080/xmlui/handle/azu/15355 5) Check out these coins from the period
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/afghanistan-250-afghanis-km-979-1978-cuid-1044108-duid-1219976
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59044.html AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 20:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
:Yes perfect evidence, although the guy didn't really care about the truth regardless. I'm not so experienced with this website anyways, what can I do more? Thank you, and I'll vote in favour of and support any decision for restoration of the National flag of the Afghan Republic. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 06:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
::I will try to get a moderator involved. I don’t know if this also counts as evidence, but my uncle served in the army under Daoud and he says this new emblem is “not the same” in his own words. AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 03:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
March 2024
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:Sorry about that, It's a browser thing. I'll keep that in mind. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 04:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Unsourced additions
You didn't provide a source in support of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Rajputs&diff=prev&oldid=1216469400 this addition]. And so is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Habib_ur_Rahman_%28Indian_National_Army_officer%29&diff=1216467512&oldid=1216465944 this one]. Add a WP:RS in support of the subject's caste, otherwise it will be removed. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
:blacklisted website from Wikipedia.
RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 10:53, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
::Which one? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Indianetzone
:::ttps://www.indianetzone.com/62/raja_habib_ur_rahman_khan.htm
:::If you can't access it looks like [https://i.ibb.co/j6tWCtw/image-2024-03-31-224927787.png this]
:::Full text: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486484429217202176/1223860630797287545/message.txt?ex=661b6408&is=6608ef08&hm=b6339d0717bab013a3087a91705c2cb38f83b3444f39ec0ace243fea10e4ffc4& .txt] RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 11:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
::::It is not a reliable source. Can you find a book source? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::I added the new book source which mentions his rajput family origin of Punjeri RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 12:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Page number? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::the ref says 156
::::::search habibur on the google books search RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 13:20, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::The source says Chib. We'd need a source which proves that Chibs are Rajputs. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::its talking about this
::::::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chibhal RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 14:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Hi, add that source to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Rajputs&diff=prev&oldid=1216469400 this entry]. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
April 2024
File:Information.svg Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to :Kakazai, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. The article even names the places where the Kakazai, also known as Loi Mamund (For example, see the Tribal Konar Map for "Wur" and "Mamund Kakazai" produced by the United States Naval Postgraduate School, Culture and Conflict Studies at https://nps.edu/documents/105988371/107571254/Kunar+Tribal+Map.pdf/a40becc4-2ff3-4943-93f5-6d03b7658c47) located within Afghanistan including Kunar/Konar. McKhan (talk) 07:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
:There are no Kakazai people in Afghanistan, no one on wikipedia can show me any. It is the place of origin of a tribe whose members are only found in West Punjab, Indians too. I guess it could still be kept until more of this tribe is learnt of. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 10:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
::If you can read Pashto, then see http://web.archive.org/web/20160303234815/http://www.scprd.com/navi_leekane_show.php?id=795, https://web.archive.org/web/20160304054104/http://www.scprd.com/paos_show.php?id=2242, http://www.tolafghanistan.com/%D9%BE%DA%9A%D8%AA%D8%A7-%D9%86%D9%87-%DA%85%D9%88%DA%A9-%D8%AF%D9%8A/ and http://www.tolafghanistan.com/app/download/5806295390/latifyada.pdf McKhan (talk) 16:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Interesting listing. A tribe completely shifted to West Punjab and cannot be identified with by any people in Afghanistan, only the Mahmund tribe. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 09:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
::::It is not "Mahmund" but Mamund/Mamond. "Mahmund" or "Mohmand" is a different tribe. Although it doesn't matter as per the Wikipedia guidelines, I know quite a few Kakazai (Loi Mamund) people in Kunar and beyond in Afghanistan, a fact which has also been noted by the authors of the articles I provided above along with the NPS map. Just like other Pashtuns, Kakazai lives in Pakistan, Afghanistan and beyond. McKhan (talk) 16:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Edit summaries
Hello RevolutionaryPatriot. Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but recent edits of yours to the page Yusufzai have edit summaries that are inadequate and inappropriate. Summaries should be helpful to people browsing an article's history, so it is important that you use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did and the reason for the change. Edit summaries are not for venting or complaining about other editors. Please follow the guidance in WP:EDITSUMCITE in the future. If you are reverting an edit because it violates policies or guidelines, you should also be specific about the policies or guidelines involved. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:It is very helpful to point out, for other editors to know. Do you feel what you saw on that article is a frequent occurrence? I'm not sure why the decision for 1 week was chosen, when I already wrote that it has been going on for months, the user has edits going to other articles by months too.
:He'll be back, but I guess thats his 1 week off break of writing his own history. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 08:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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File:Stop hand nuvola.svg Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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:Please note only the most recent edit can be classified as an 'edit war', everything beforehand was me fixing the article. Just note, I was fixing the article. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 13:31, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
::No, and edit that reverts any editor is a revert, I count 3 over the last 24 hours, and as I will report you if you do it again (as such this is my last comment, take it to the articles talk page and make a case). Note as well wp:3rr is not an upper limit, you can edit warring if you make the same edit 7 times in a week. Note as well that being right is not a justification for edit waring. Slatersteven (talk) 13:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
July 2024
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In future, please also make sure to check references first before altering the content. Sutyarashi (talk) 09:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Edit-warring at [[Shuja Khanzada]]
File:Ambox warning pn.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Unnecessarily changing transliteration
How is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ziaur_Rahman&diff=prev&oldid=1243284195 this edit] of yours to Ziaur Rahman constructive? There are a multitude of ways to transliterate Bengali names. Wikipedia sticks to the transliteration by which the person is best known, unless reliable sources show that they changed their preferred transliteration at some point. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood as vandalism. Your change has been removed and archived in the page history for now. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
:So that readers know how to understand such a name. They will otherwise think Ziaur is a real name, which it is not. His name is Zia-ur-Rehman. His name is Zia. With this information they also know how to pronounce his name. It was put at the starting body of the paragraph so they make the link from then on on what this name means. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 23:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
You must start using edit summaries
Other editors should not have to spend time figuring out why you’re making changes. If you can’t do that I may have to restrict you to talk pages. Doug Weller talk 17:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
:Then they can ask me. In what context were my changes controversial/wrong that I didn't leave a summary for it? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 23:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Deletion discussion about [[Abdali Airport]]
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September 2024
File:Information.svg Hello, I'm HandThatFeeds. I noticed that you made a comment on the page :Talk:1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. {{tq|Joseph Goebbels is proud}} is beyond the pale. Do not attack other editors again. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 12:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
:It's true. Repeating and repeating till you comprehend no other narrative. Pretty sure many educators (both School and University) even in the United States would agree with what i'm saying, for the most part you are all just raised a certain way and it carries onto the way you interact on wikipedia regarding such a topic. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 06:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Doug Weller talk 16:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC):Hello {{ping|Doug Weller}}. Unfortunately, RevolutionaryPatriot did not learn from this. If I am to understand this (kind of grammatically confusing) comment, they are amongst other things saying that I have a "damaged psyche" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ghurid_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1251122703]. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
::@HistoryofIran You can't correct a ping, have to do a new post. But this is on my watchlist. Doug Weller talk 16:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
::It's funny that I didn't explicity comment on you at all. Does that mean you felt attacked? Would that mean you are guilty of what I was speaking on? Would you really admit ethno-nationalism as an editor on this website? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 12:51, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
:::No one's falling for that one. If you attack me again, even remotely suggest something WP:ASPERSIONS-ish about me, I will take to you WP:ANI. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
You have been blocked from editing articles directly
You were warned strongly about not using edit summaries above, with an explanation of how important it is. Your reply indicated that you weren't prepared to consider the convenience of other editors ("Then they can ask me"), and indeed you have gone on just as before: no edit summaries. As {{u|Doug Weller}} warned you might happen, I have therefore blocked you from editing articles directly for a month. You can still edit talkpages, including making requests for article edits. You can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator by placing
:Show me which edit I did that had no summary. I don't know what you're talking about. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 10:09, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
::You don't know what I'm talking about? Strange. For your over 100 edits since the warning, you have only provided an edit summary in one case. An automatic tag such as "Reply" isn't an edit summary you provide, explains nothing, and is altogether useless in itself. Your response to the warning above showed that you understood this perfectly well. Bishonen | tålk 10:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC).
:::And then there is the :Joseph Goebbels is proud comment as well. From what RP says about, there may be a NOTHERE issue also. Doug Weller talk 11:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Once more, you fail to show me any edit summary. The only one brought up was Ziaur Rahman. Which by the way, [https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=zia Ziaur] is not a real single word name, Zia is a name. My edit was reverted solely because the editors that did it are unfamiliar with that topic area culture. A Bengali/South Asian editor wouldn't have reverted my edit.
:::I don't know if we're looking at the same records here, i've had a scroll of my contributions and everything I do is so minor, and you can see I have lines written in my edit summaries whenever it mattered to do so. Are you making a mistake or something? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 13:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I believe I have explained fully, and I don't understand what it is you don't understand. Again, you can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator (= not me, and not Doug Weller) by placing
:::::What is your issue with comprehending what I wrote? I am saying my edits are minor, myself and millions more editors will probably continue not leaving edit summaries when we fix a link, adjust an infobox and change a spelling.
:::::Your comment is dated after Doug Wellers, so my assumption would be what he wrote is your explanation.
:::::I didn't believe at first that the act of adding text to an article warrants an edit summary, though by that logic I'm not sure what makes a "minor" edit in the first place. I'm well aware and respect the both of our intelligence enough to say that's not the reason you did this, perhaps you did it because you object to certain edits of mine you feel threatened by or something? Regardless we both know you don't consistently give month ban to editors for this reason, or even as so much as give a warning, just happens to have been done to me.
:::::There is no need for you to bring up unblocking with an uninvolved administrator. I'm just inquiring on what you did by asking you about it, I haven't asked you once to unblock me have I. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 13:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
::::No, they aren't minor. WP:MINOR says what is minor, you are, for instance, adding text. Not a lot, but still not minor. By the way, did you accidentally edit logged out here?[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3A1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre&diff=1245392995&oldid=1245336767] It looks to be you, and I can remove the IP address if you like. It does give location. Doug Weller talk 13:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Nope not mine RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 13:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please read the help page Help:Edit summary. If you'd show even a little awareness of why for example this or this (especially since it's a pretty inappropriate, and unexplained, addition to the very first sentence) requires an edit summary, and would undertake to use explanatory edit summaries in the future, I'd consider unblocking you. Bishonen | tålk 11:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC).
Speedy deletion nomination of Panipat 1776
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November 2024
File:Information.svg Hello, I'm Jannatulbaqi. I wanted to let you know that some of your recent contributions to :Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi have been reverted or removed because they seem to be defamatory or libellous. Take a look at our welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Baqi:) (talk) 08:22, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Deletion discussion about [[Zaida Kalli]]
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FYI: adding piped link to eliminate redirect
Hello RevolutionaryPatriot,
I was puzzled as to why, in the Ayub Khan article, WikiEnthusiast1001 was so troubled by your addition of a piped link to the wikilink for General Musa Khan; that is, you changed the wikilink to General Musa Khan. In the past, I have often made similar edits to wikilinks. I found a possible explanation for WikiEnthusiast1001's concern at WP:NOTBROKEN.
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:I'm aware, It's fine the name is mentioned 3 times in the entire article RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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There's a complaint filed against you. See: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#RevolutionaryPatriot. Capitals00 (talk) 01:56, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
:Hi, RevolutionaryPatriot. I'm Tamzin, one of the administrators who staffs Arbitration Enforcement. While no part of Wikipedia is compulsory, I would strongly recommend participating in the discussion. If not, administrators will just have to do our best guessing at what your defense would be, which will probably be less effective than whatever you actually have to say. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 05:40, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
::RP, a p-block from article space is currently being discussed at AE because of your failure to respond there or here. Please respond one place or the other before you edit again. Valereee (talk) 15:58, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
March 2025
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Valereee (talk) 20:24, 4 March 2025 (UTC):No objection to any other admin unblocking once this editor has started communicating. Valereee (talk) 20:25, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
::unblock me there is an issue on Sher Ali Afridi RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 07:18, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
:::Do you understand that you need to communicate with the community when your edits are questioned or discussed? 331dot (talk) 11:30, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
::::As per what was written on this very talk page, no there wasn't a compulsory need.
::::No I do not care to discuss any of that, but i'll proceed to do so on the page Sher Ali Afridi when i'm unblocked and if a response is given. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 14:49, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::You need to talk to other editors when your actions are discussed. Is it "compulsory", no, but if you don't talk to us, then it's possible actions will be taken without your input. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::I don't care to talk to you about my edits, but I do on Sher Ali Afridi where there is an actual dispute, for when i get unblocked RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 07:04, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::Literally what I wrote above was {{xt|RP, a p-block from article space is currently being discussed at AE because of your failure to respond there or here. Please respond one place or the other before you edit again.}} You started editing again without responding, and I p-blocked. How you are concluding {{xt|As per what was written on this very talk page, no there wasn't a compulsory need}} in order to avoid a block, which you would then need to again communicate about in order to make an unblock request? Valereee (talk) 15:44, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::{{ec}} Butting in to say you have not addressed the concerns raised about your editing at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#RevolutionaryPatriot. Also, articles are not the place to address other editors concerns. Please address those concerns on your talk page. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:46, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Found my way here from Special:AbuseFilter/1271. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:49, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::And the really silly part is that probably a simple explanation at AE would have sufficed, and that if the p-block for refusal to communicate had been placed as 'by consensus at AE' instead of as an individual admin action -- which was completely possible -- appeal would have to be at AE or ANI rather than via an unblock request here. And such an appeal holds the risk of both going completely south and/or requiring ongoing communication for sometimes days or longer. RP, the best choice when another editor expresses a concern is to address the concern. Valereee (talk) 16:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Articles are perfectly fine to discuss it for other users to not do the same thing.
:::::::Also, @Valereee Why would I "simply explain" anything? What explanation do you care to be told? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 07:15, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@Deepfriedokra Of course I am addressing the matter at Sher Ali Afridi, what else do you mean to talk about? The weather? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 07:29, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::There is a scenario where I'd be making edits without having the time of checking any notification, then get my account blocked indefinitely.
::::::I am meant to communicate to avoid a block? So do you mean to say I am blocked because of the edits? Otherwise am I mistaken in believing every part of wikipedia is not compulsory? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 07:11, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::It's not compulsory for editors to communicate. For editors whose edits are so noncontroversial that no one ever expresses reasonable concerns about those edits, not communicating is fine.
:::::::What’s also not compulsory is editing, and the community isn't required to allow you to edit.
:::::::When someone expresses reasonable concerns about your edits, here or at a notice board, you're expected to respond. If you don’t respond, one possible consequence is you might get blocked. It’s still your choice: respond or not. And it's still the community's choice: allow you to continue editing, or not. Valereee (talk) 11:36, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::It's called "Arbitration" or dispute over editor, meaning it's just to decide a punishment it's not something I care to respond to. As I mentioned, it possibly could've been not my choice If the editor was too busy to check notifications and simply made rare edits, resulting in them being banned.
::::::::If a talk page message was asking me about something then I'd have responded and justified whatever it was. Your reply to me doesn't tie to the arbitration, the actual dispute.
::::::::{{tq|When someone expresses reasonable concerns about your edits}}
::::::::The concern was about 1 edit, which is already being discussed at Sher Ali Afridi. So this does nullify your notion doesn't it?
::::::::{{tq|It’s still your choice: respond or not. And it's still the community's choice: allow you to continue editing, or not.}}
::::::::Now that you've addressed this, maybe you can clearly answer for yourself, was the block due to exercising my choice not to respond, or is it because my edits warrant it? From my understanding of what you just wrote right now you are implicitly saying the indefinite block was because of my edits? Would you like to point one out for me? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 14:43, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::There are serious concerns with your editing going back two years. Your refusal to address these concerns is not new and that is what had led to this block. Lard Almighty (talk) 14:52, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@Lard Almighty are you saying that my edits warrant the indefinite block? You are free to show me the serious edits in your next reply.
::::::::::My refusal to address it doesn't actually disrupt any process at all, I just didn't defend myself. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 05:55, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::It does disrupt the process. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort. In fact, if it really was just one instance of you not working collaboratively, I would say that the block is too harsh. But this is a pattern that you have demonstrated over almost two years, and which is addressed in Wikipedia:NOTHERE, which states in part:
:::::::::::; Little or no interest in working collaboratively
:::::::::::: Extreme lack of interest in working constructively and cooperatively with the community where the views of other users may differ; extreme lack of interest in heeding others' legitimate concerns...
:::::::::::It also states:
:::::::::::; Treating editing as a battleground
:::::::::::: Excessive soapboxing, escalation of disputes, repeated hostile aggressiveness, and the like, may suggest a user is here to fight rather than here to build an encyclopedia. If a user has a dispute, then they are expected to place the benefit of the project at a high priority and seek dispute resolution. A user whose anger causes them to obsess may find the fight has become their focus, not encyclopedia writing.
:::::::::::You have yourself admitted your "extreme lack of interest in heeding others' legitimate concerns". As well, when you have responded, your responses have been aggressive and hostile. The evidence is all here on this very talk page. This is a clear pattern of disruption that has been evident since early in your editing here, and more than enough for an admin to block you if they conclude that you are indeed not here to build an encyclopedia. Lard Almighty (talk) 10:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::So the block is because of my edit history of two years, not what was brought up?
::::::::::::You're unable to say what the discussion i'm meant to hold is, apart from defending myself what is it that you're expecting exactly? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 14:32, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::No, the block was due to exercising your right not to respond, as I said very clearly in my first post here: {{xt|RP, a p-block from article space is currently being discussed at AE because of your failure to respond there or here. Please respond one place or the other before you edit again.}}
:::::::::You are free not to respond. Exercising that freedom isn't consequence-free, as 331 explained in their first post here. Valereee (talk) 15:53, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::{{tq|Exercising that freedom isn't consequence-free}}
::::::::::It was already mentioned that the consequence was I don't defend myself. I never cared to. I only care about the indefinite block.
::::::::::If the block is unrelated to my edits, you are saying not responding is my "choice" in the sense of my physical online ability to not type a response, which unveils a paradox that I cannot edit on the website anymore. I don't care to address the edits, I don't care about defending myself. You are capable of judging my edits.
::::::::::You were free to proceed with your arbitration punishment process 5 days ago. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 05:50, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::No, the consequence is the p-block from article space. The decision not to communicate was the action that resulted in that consequence.
:::::::::::You've used the word punishment now twice, so I'll deal with that. A sanction is not a punishment. It's a consequence for a behavior, intended to encourage an editor to agree to change that behavior.
:::::::::::The reason we want you to communicate is that not communicating wastes the time of other editors. At this point I'd estimate several hours have been spent by multiple editors over a period of over two weeks, when instead you could have spent a few minutes explaining. All that time is directly draining volunteer time from the project.
:::::::::::If you aren't interested in changing your behavior -- won't agree to voluntarily communicate -- that's again your choice. A p-block from article space allows you to continue to discuss improvements at an article's talk, which forces you to communicate rather than simply editing articles and refusing to communicate.
:::::::::::I feel like at this point we're going around in circles. If you have something new to say, feel free to ping me here. Or you can file an unblock request; the first one is usually answered pretty quickly. Valereee (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yet there was no legitimate concerns to do anything about? Only past instances were pointed out. The only edit, which I'm seeking to restore would be Sher Ali Afridi which was brought up and i'm responding to. Already communicating.
::::::::::::Like I said, there is only 1 matter of dispute and it's already being communicated which nullifies your entire notion. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 14:26, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::This is going nowhere. We can't remove TPA for someone with a partial block so unless this editor makes an unblock request soon I think we should just block them sitewise and if we still have to, remove TPA. Doug Weller talk 14:46, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Hmm... you said that a sanction is a {{tq|consequence for a behavior, intended to encourage an editor to agree to change that behavior}}. That definition seems to be an equally suitable definition for punishment. In future, I think it would be better to explain how the p-block technically stops further disruption to articles. QwertyForest (talk) 09:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
{{unblock reviewed |1=to continue editing |decline = I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that
- the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
- the block is no longer necessary because you:
- #understand what you have been blocked for,
- #will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
- #will make useful contributions instead.
Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 11:48, 14 March 2025 (UTC)}}
I don't think anyone will unblock you simply because you want to continue editing. Almost all blocked editors do. Some Admins might think this is a \continunace of the problems that led me to say you needed to make an unblock request to avoid being site blocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talk • contribs) 07:40, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
unblock request
@Yamla the neither of the reply buttons work for me, I should clarify another request reason is there are disruptions on Wiki that are ongoing I am seeking to change. My primary reason for unblock request.
Also, I am wary of why I was blocked, there is no damage/disruption to "continue" in the first place and my useful contributions will be fixing degradation of wiki articles. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 14:36, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
:This is incoherent. If English is not your primary language, you may prefer to edit the version of Wikipedia in your own native language. --Yamla (talk) 15:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
::I'm saying I satisfy your conditions RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 15:06, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
::{{tq|1. understand what you have been blocked for}}
::I do.
::{{tq|2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and}}
::Will not, especially since I wasn't blocked for that in the first place.
::{{tq|3. will make useful contributions instead.}}
::I intend to fix various parts and prevent vandalism. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 15:42, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
{{unblock reviewed|accept=Unblocking, consider being collaborative instead of ornery in the future. -- asilvering (talk) 23:09, 21 March 2025 (UTC)|I am aware and I understand my block was issued for not responding to the arbitration, I intend to continue editing, which will mostly consist of fixing spelling and preventing vandalism. Will not commit any damage/disruption, especially since I wasn't blocked for that in the first place.}}
:You need to articulate the reason for the block. Just saying "I am aware" is not enough. RegentsPark (comment) 12:31, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
:I've adjusted, nothing much more now RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 01:34, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- {{u|Valereee}}, I'm just going to unblock, since that seems to be the action that will waste the least of everyone's time. Your block was obviously good, I wouldn't have lifted it if I were you either, and the foregoing is great evidence for "editor is incompatible with a collaborative project", so if the same issues end up back at AE, count me in for an indef. But right now I'm at "this whole thing is just stupid", and I'm not going to indef and revoke tpa for that, so here we are. -- asilvering (talk) 23:07, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- :@Asilvering, I'd have liked to see this editor say something along the lines of "In future I will respond on talk and user talk when other editors express concerns". Which was what caused whole weeks of, as you say, stupidity: their complete refusal to see responding to concerns as either necessary or important. Valereee (talk) 23:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- ::As I see it, whether they say that now or not is immaterial; if they don't respond when editors express concerns next, there's no way they're surviving the ensuing ANI/AE report. -- asilvering (talk) 01:23, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- :::I agree with Valereee that it would have been better if they had firmly committed to using talk pages (not just responding on AE). But, you're right that they wouldn't survive another report so I guess it is ok to unblock. Assuming WP:AGF is never a bad strategy! RegentsPark (comment) 20:24, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hi RevolutionaryPatriot. Thank you for your work on Jahan Khan Popalzai. Another editor, MPGuy2824, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:
{{Bq|1="Popalzai" isn't mentioned in the target page}}
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:{{Re|MPGuy2824}} you can delete it forget it RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 15:01, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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