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Reverted relist

Hey Ritchie, you reverted a sock relisting an AfD [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sultan_ul_Arifeen_Hazrat_Syed_Rakhyal_Shah_Sufi_Al_Qadri&diff=next&oldid=1288544223] but the AfD is still transcluded to the new log Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 May 3. I tried relisting it myself (since I believe more discussion is needed) but the script doesn't let me, since it's already been relisted. I'll try to fix this manually, but I just wanted to let you know. In case I have trouble I'll come back and ask for help. Toadspike [Talk] 14:47, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:I think I've fixed it and learned a thing or two about the technical side of AfD in the process. Toadspike [Talk] 14:55, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::Ah good, that sockpuppet screwed a whole bunch of things up. First time I've ever used mass rollback in almost ten years of adminship! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from [[User:Alrich Williams 2028|Alrich Williams 2028]] on [[Star Life (Africa)]] (15:53, 3 May 2025)

Hello. How do I edit Wikipedia? --Alrich Williams 2028 (talk) 15:53, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:What specifically do you want to edit? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Content that was removed Alrich Williams 2028 (talk) 11:42, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Deleted wikipedia page ([[Sanja Mitrović]])

Hello! The Wikipedia Page Sanja Mitrovic has been deleted as it seems that you thought it doesn't follow the copy rights agreements. In fact, we do have all the copy rights from the source that you mentioned, www.sanjamitrovic.com. Can you please put back the Wikipedia online please? Thank you for your quick reply. Ringo11C (talk) 14:23, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:The best, and ideal thing to do, is to rewrite a new article, using the source and others from a standpoint, in your own words. It probably doesn't need to use all of that source, and that will definitively avoid any arguments about plagiarism or close paraphrasing. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:38, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

::Hello! Can I use the old page and not go all over from the beginning? It would be easier. I will make sure that the text is written in my own words, thanks! 2A02:A03F:6A80:7E01:71DB:CE4F:7623:7D17 (talk) 19:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately, we can't restore copyright violations - ever. User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to copyvios has more information. The text is (or should be) available at https://www.standuptall.org/sanja-mitrovic/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from [[User:Dinglock|Dinglock]] (09:38, 7 May 2025)

Hey, I am a new editor looking to edit the page Economy of Malaysia. The image on the page is with the wrong size. Can you give me hints on editing it?

Thanks

Pedro --Dinglock (talk) 09:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Wee Hong}} fixed it with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Economy_of_Malaysia&diff=prev&oldid=1289259963 this edit]. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:53, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

The sock

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(Replying here rather than on their talk page per WP:DENY /WP:DNFTT)

{{quotebox||align=center|1=== Whose sock are you? ==

As {{u|Bishonen}} might say, whose sock are you? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:04, 7 May 2025 (UTC)|bgcolor=#FFFFF0}}

:{{reply|Ritchie333}} "And answer there came none"... It's probably {{noping|Jonasiosur}}; {{u|JeffSpaceman}} might know the master LTA, as he crushed them in a firefight on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Results of the 2025 Singaporean general election the other day. Cheers, Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 16:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

::Hehehe, glad to get credit! 😀 Bishonen | tålk 16:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC).

:Do we need to create a template, something like {{uw-bishzilla}}? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

::You know, I always found the use of "sock" in this context inherently funny... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 06:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:::As long as the use of "meat" doesn't make you hungry. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:29, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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From: Emmanuel Strobes Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 18:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

-ington

Hey Ritchie. You closed WP:Articles for deletion/-ington as "move to Wiktionary", but I just realized that the corresponding Wiktionary page (wikt:-ington) has been deleted twice with the message "Failed RFD, RFDO; do not re-enter". RFD is their version of AfD; I can only assume that "do not re-enter" means "do not recreate". You can see the deletion discussion at wikt:Talk:-ington.

So, it seems they do not want this "-ington" business either. What do we do? Can our (enwiki) page be deleted without transferring anything to Wiktionary? I do not feel comfortable enough with Wiktionary policy to go there asking for this to be undeleted/recreated for no good reason. Toadspike [Talk] 15:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:Well, the consensus was definitely to move it to Wiktionary. If Wiktionary do not want the article, it will have to be deleted. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:39, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

::I'm no Wiktionary expert, but the facts of the matter have not changed and neither of the sources cited in -ington as actually about "-ington". It seems extremely foolish to go asking them to overturn their consensus for deletion. If you agree, I think you can delete the article.

::I've also noticed that someone suggested redirection in the AfD and helpfully added a row at List of generic forms in place names in the British Isles for this purpose, but they failed to check the source, which doesn't mention this suffix at all and thus doesn't support the content they added. I will be removing that row shortly. Toadspike [Talk] 15:47, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

-ington

Unfortunately, you closed this before I had a chance to comment, but I don't think "move to Wiktionary" is a realistic result. What if no one ever actually does this (there's no note at the article)? And the main point I wanted to make in the discussion was that "-ington" doesn't seem to be an etymologically valid suffix...the suffix is merely "-ton", where some of the things suffixed with "-ton" happen to end in "-ing", while others don't. Wiktionary already has an entry there: wikt:-ton. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:09, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oh, someone just wrote to you about this above, which I didn't even see before I wrote this, sorry about that! 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:10, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

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Happy Adminship Anniversary!

File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg Wishing Ritchie333 a very [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User%3ARitchie333 happy adminship anniversary] on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Best wishes! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:29, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

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Ten years - wow, where has the time gone? I seem to recall I was taking West Pier to GA and getting harassed by the Best known for IP at the same time, which was ... interesting. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:41, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

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: congratulations! - check my talk today for two pics of Margot Friedländer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:That was a good article to read. I visited the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam and even moving around the building and through the swinging bookcase, you still can't really picture what it was like to be hiding away from the Nazis in there. Elsewhere, the number of people who can remember first-hand accounts of the Nazis are getting smaller and smaller, and it won't be long before we don't have any left. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Thank you! - Musings on 15 May --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

::Ooh look. it's The Beach Minions! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w3u1kvxQvI enjoy]!! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:: birthday of Erik Satie --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:01, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:: A first: two stories about two people who worked together and died the same day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, born 100 years ago, described by Alan Blyth --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Delta Air Lines destinations]]

Thank you for your work on it. Nevertheless I question the outcome. There were 4x Keep and only 2x Merge. Why do you put the Merge as consensus? Thank you in advance to explain the reasoning. Axisstroke (talk) 15:05, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:AfD is not a vote, so I always consider the quality of the arguments. In this case, {{u|OwenX}} had already relisted the debate, saying the quality of the arguments did not address notability particularly well, and that led to a final week of back-and-forth arguing. Looking back, I saw {{u|Aviationwikiflight}} gave a good argument for merging, and given many other arguments were refuted, they appeared to me to cancel each other out and lead to this potential compromise. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:39, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::well none of the ~ 150 references were properly analysed by {{u|Aviationwikiflight}}. Hence I considered his arguments quite weak and not worth refuting.

::The conclusion goes against the community consensus found in wide participation during Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not/Archive 60#RfC on WP:NOT and British Airways destinations , right? Axisstroke (talk) 07:28, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Why would I analyze more than 150 sources when I already summarized what they were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Delta_Air_Lines_destinations#c-Aviationwikiflight-20250415153200-RickyCourtney-20250410234000 in my vote]? If you’re not willing to adequately refute an argument, how is the closer expected to take that into account? And as I already said in the AfD, even if a list doesn’t fail WP:NOT, it still has to pass notability guidelines. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::::As you are newer to wikipedia than most, you have not seen proper analysis of the sources. The reference for each destinations passes widely WP:GNG. This is my last word to User: Aviationwikiflight. I will not engage with the non respect and improper assessment in any case where I would encounter such a bad noob behavior. Axisstroke (talk) 09:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::I respectfully disagree with you. I have already seen and done source analyses. My argument was that the list itself does not pass notability guidelines, hence why I proposed merging the list into Delta Air Lines#Destinations which would be able to cover the destinations in more detail instead of voting for an outright deletion. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::{{tpw}} {{nao}} {{reply|Axisstroke}} {{blue|As you are newer to wikipedia than most}}, wut? With your [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/enwiki/Axisstroke ~650 edits over 12 years], {{blue|Aviationwikiflight}} is actually more experienced than you. And while it is important not to put much weight into someone's edit count, to say that to an editor who has been here [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/enwiki/Aviationwikiflight nearly three years with over 10K edits] is{{nbsp}}... revealing. Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 13:10, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::Thank you for the check. Fortuna imperatrix mundi

::::::The lists have seen various AfDs with Aviationwikiflight endorsing this latest one without context it seems. At least we respectfully agree to disagree. Axisstroke (talk) 20:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Will you please stop assuming what I do or don't know? I would not have voted with the provided rationale if I didn't know the context. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 02:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::::This language usage is quite aggressive. No wonder your talk page is full of conflicts.. Axisstroke (talk) 06:35, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::Kind of funny for you to say that when we consider your comments above… {{Tq| As you are newer to wikipedia than most, you have not seen proper analysis of the sources. […] where I would encounter such a bad noob behavior.}} Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:09, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:Since the two of you are still quarrelling about this, that suggests that the compromise action (or, alternatively, a "no consensus" close) was appropriate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::Right due to the non-stop immediate answer and never letting someone else finish a thread, this leaves out to answer the open questions.. Axisstroke (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:::As there doesn't seem to be agreement, I have opened a deletion review - see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2025 May 14#List of Delta Air Lines destinations, where you can have your say there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:34, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Your [[WP:Good articles|GA]] nomination of [[Hannah Fry]]

The article Hannah Fry you nominated as a good article has passed File:Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Hannah Fry for comments about the article, and Talk:Hannah Fry/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Voorts -- Voorts (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for a very thorough and detailed review - the article looks much better now. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 06:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Grudges

Always baffled me, too. Gimmetoo made some edits that people felt were suspicious, and defended them partially on the basis that he was, in fact, Gimmetrow. Unfortunately, Gimmetrow had never acknowledged the relationship, and, for some reason, refused to acknowledge the relationship on his Gimmetrow account when I requested him to (while protesting strongly on the Gimmetoo account that he was Gimmetrow). Gimmetoo wound up blocked, and I requested a checkuser so that if the relationship was real the block could be lifted. Instead of viewing that as a lifeline to get the account back, Gimme* considered that to be a massive invasion of privacy and decided that I was some kind of evil person. I gave up.—Kww(talk) 01:07, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:I'd like to see some examples of "{{xt|Far too often, when some content gets removed for being unsourced - a source was in the article but was removed and not restored.}}" I'm sure that does happen, but without specific instances, it's difficult to investigate further. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{tpw}} If {{ping|Gimmetrow|Gimmetoo}} fears harassment by connecting the two accounts publicly, he should've known to disclose the connection by emailing the Arbs. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

[[Haku (band)]]

There were apparently two deletions, you did one of them. I don't know if there were two different articles or a duplication. I don't know if there was any significant content in those articles or something that would point to sources. Please restore whatever there was to my sandbox so I can see if an acceptable article can be formed. Let me know on my talk page when you have done so.Trackinfo (talk) 08:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:I've put a copy in User:Trackinfo/Haku (band); it's a completely unsourced page, and as it involves living people, would have been deleted regardless of any other criteria unless sources were added. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Thank you. Finding sources is what I do. Trackinfo (talk) 06:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::: [https://jpop.fandom.com/wiki/Haku Here is the mirror] that copyvio provided the copy of the article you deleted. Trackinfo (talk) 07:31, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::::I don't think that's a copyvio as Wikipedia understands it, as Fandom pages (unless specifically attributed otherwise, which this one doesn't appear to) have a compatible free documentation licence with Wikipedia, although I don't think a straight copy of a Fandom page would survive in mainspace unless it was rewritten and tightened up. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:03, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from [[User:Nicolai Zauflik|Nicolai Zauflik]] (15:01, 15 May 2025)

Hi, can I write a Wikipedia page about myself or a friend? --Nicolai Zauflik (talk) 15:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:You shouldn't do that, it's a really bad idea, because if something bad happens and it gets in the news, it can be permanently put in the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Request for deleted article to be moved to draft

I would like to request the deleted Trace Fryer article to be moved to draft.

I can fix the problems in the article with more time.

I just wanted to add, as an earlier example of another article, that I was able to repair an earlier deleted article that I had created into a published article that was applauded by the editors. Starlighsky (talk) 01:54, 16 May 2025 (UTC)Starlightsky

:Hi, I've restored this to Draft:Trace Fryer as requested. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:22, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Request for a copy of a deleted article

Hi, I saw you deleted an article - Canopy (app), that I was working on. Could you recover it for me so I can try to improve it? Thanks.--Simxaraba (talk) 15:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:Sure, it's in Draft:Canopy (app). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:32, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks, appreciate that.--Simxaraba (talk) 15:35, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from [[User:Daffodilhorse323|Daffodilhorse323]] (01:37, 18 May 2025)

Hello how do I successfully add userbox templates I've tried using the text templates but nothing besides the wiki text has shown up --Daffodilhorse323 (talk) 01:37, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:I've fixed that for you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:52, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dastan Satpayev]]

I hadn't seen that "redirect" !vote towards the end, but if I had noticed it in time I would have left a decent argument against it: that is, it is silly and completely unhelpful to redirect to the league one once played in when (i) they've played in other leagues and (ii) they're not mentioned at all at the target. I don't think I've ever seen that type of outcome for any player ever (redirecting to one of the leagues they played in when they're not mentioned there at all and have better targets if absolutely necessary to redirect). I don't think I even see a consensus in favor of removal - 4k to 2d/r, and no side particularly stronger than the other. Perhaps this could be relisted? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:02, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:Indeed. Redirects not being mentioned at the target article is literally (probably, anyway) the most common deletion rationale at RfD (it's in double figures as we speak). So has the close effectively mandated a backdoor deletion :) Fortuna, imperatrix 18:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:Sure, I can relist it for another week. The AfD should be live again for further discussion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:It is not 2 d/r, it is three. Always count the nom. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

You've got mail

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:Got it, handled it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from [[User:100.percent.honest|100.percent.honest]] (17:52, 20 May 2025)

Hello,

I thought the whole point of creating an account was to add new information.

I spent a lot of time making additions to the "Homestars" business account just a few days ago and now I see nothing. What have I done wrong?

Also, I just learned of some entirely new information merely five minutes ago about the Homestar's business that is shocking to me.

Your advice would be most helpful.

Thank you. --100.percent.honest (talk) 17:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:This account only has three contributions, two to Talk:HomeStars and one to this talk page. You don't appear to have added any information to any article, so I'm unsure as to what exactly the issue is. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:30, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Hannah Fry

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|text = On 26 May 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hannah Fry, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hannah Fry once compared Elizabeth II's Christmas messages with the lyrics of Snoop Dogg using mathematics? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hannah Fry. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2025-05-16&end=2025-06-05&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hannah_Fry Hannah Fry]), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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