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They just don't seem to get it do they... Well here's a ref I guess you could use. At SS I had the opportunity to talk to Matt Striker and I asked him just out of curiosity if they as commentators had ever been told to treat the major titles in any specific way. This was actually more about the ECW Championship so the question I was really asking was if they were supposed to treat it different from the World Heavyweight and WWE Championship in terms of "world status". His response was that they are given certain rules and guidelines by Vince McMahon when talking about certain things but as for the ECW Championship, Vince sees it as one of the world titles in the company and has never given them any specific instructions on how to talk about the title. So when we got home I popped in SS that my mom recorded to see how I came out and during the ECW Championship match entrances, sure enough... [http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTE1MTUxNzI4.html fast forward to 1:57] ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 17:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

:Well that quote from SummerSlam was, "This is the first of three World's Championship matches here at SummerSlam as Captain Charisma electrifies the Staples Center here at SummerSlam."

::Now also at Breaking Point during the ECW Championship match... another Striker quote... "Josh, to illustrate the global impact of this contest, if William Regal wins the ECW Championship, he'll become the 9th non-U.S. born superstar to capture a World Title in the last 15 years. The WWE has certainly gone global and who better to wear the crown than William Regal." ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 19:34, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

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Hi TJSpyke.

I noticed the battle you are having on the Wrestling Authority figures pages concerning the temporary Raw GM's and I thought of a suggestion to make everyone happy, but you don't have to use it. I understand why you don't want it on the page because we do not know how long it will be going on for and it would disrupt the balance on the page (if itgoes on for 2 years for example) Although I am not sure what Fancruft means as it says on the "Fancruft" page that it would only be important for rabid wrestling fans, but I know people who would like to know this stuff. I noticed in the talk page you were comparing the list of the GMs to a list of every SNL episode ever made. It would be a bad idea. However if I am not mistaken, aren't there lists on Wikipedia for every season of SNL with every host musical guest and cast breakdowns. There are tons of articles on Wikipedia where you have episode lists of TV Shows and lists of people who have been on the cover of a certain magazine and there is no opposition to them. I'm just curious as to why it would be a problem for this particular page. (This is something that is a bit puzzling to me when using Wikipedia)

So what I would suggest to appease everyone is to create a seperate article dealing with the Celeb Raw GMS and maybe you could have a link to that page on the Authority figures page. Then it wouldn't disrupt the balance on the page and it would make everybody happy. I just wanted to suggest this. I hope it's cool. I don't know how long this edit war is going to be, but I just want to see everyone happy.70.31.220.110 (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)samusek2

Pe De Chinelo. He's edited the Dark Knight and put Tekken 3 at the top of fighting games. It was Chinelo's trademark. We need to act now chocobogamer mine 22:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

NOT SPECUALTION http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1677/84/ is the source, please apologize accordingly and do not revert unless you have proof —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punisher88 (talk • contribs)

:That source does not say it will be the main event. I will not apologize for being right. TJ Spyke 00:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

::http://www.tnawrestlingnews.com/headlines/253482792.shtml there from the website the tournamnet determines the main event, please apologize —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punisher88 (talk • contribs)

:::Whoopee, a rumor site says something, that is NOT TNA's site. I won't apologize because you have said to prove proof of what the main event will be. Do NOT add anything until the second to last match on the card starts (at which point the main event will be known). TJ Spyke 00:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

http://img190.imageshack.us/i/nosurrender.jpg/

It's a fact Madison is replacing Angelina.StarEnerg (talk) 03:08, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

:A random image on Imageshack is not a reliable source. TJ Spyke 03:17, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

What do you think so far, about to place it in after the PPV?--WillC 00:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

:I used the age is days template, so they should be correct. Considering the template is a quick reference mainly, that is why I had them linked multiple times. That should change with time after multiple champions are crowned and the stats change. Thanks for the feedback.--WillC 00:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

::Okay.--WillC 01:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you think we should try to get A.J. Styles protected. There is a very good chance of alot of edits by ips now that he has won the world title tonight.--WillC 03:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

:Well I think because everyone is going to write "AJ is the greatest TNA Champion ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", since everyone has been waiting and wanting him as champ for so long. I'll go ahead and nominate it if you haven't already.--WillC 03:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

What fair use rational do you provide for these two images? Five images is far more than most quality articles, why does SMB need these two? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

:I'm not sure how the image demonstrates anything; the text with its sources does that adequately. As for the map, there are probably dozens of much, much better images than "an image used to demonstrate an added map". - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

how was that unsourced?80.192.47.84 (talk) 01:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi

I have given you Plutonium Star, for your edits exceed 40 000.

Cheers, Lamro (talk) 11:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Time Warner bought most of the assets of Midway, including some Midway studios, but it does not own the stock of Midway Games, Inc. Midway still has separate stockholders and is currently a Debtor in possession in Bankruptcy. See, for example, Midway's SEC filing: [http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1022080/000095012309022774/c52310e8vk.htm here] that explains that Mark Thomas has given the bankruptcy trustees a proxy to vote his majority stock interest in the company. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I will correct the bad links.

-201.207.245.14 (talk) 03:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, sorry, I worked on Spanish Wikipedia, and there we make:

Triple H

Sorry :(

-201.207.245.14 (talk) 03:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

In response to your [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Pok%C3%A9mon&curid=13400110&diff=314436585&oldid=314415466 last edit summary], I also edit templates on a regular basis, and after cleaning up over 150 navboxes (many of them roughly half the size of this one), I can attest to the difference whitespace makes in source readability. The presence of whitespace in a template's source has no impact on the software-imposed template limits, so that can't be your concern here. In addition, why would you remove the whitespace from only portions of the template's source? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 17:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

:~poke~ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 18:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

::I don't really care either way, I was only editing the article to fix a link. TJ Spyke 20:14, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, whatever... it's not *that* important, really, but I would have appreciated you separating your changes so I could see more clearly what besides removing whitespace you were doing (blame the diff engine). I don't suppose you'd care to give me an example or two of your other template work, though? I'd really appreciate seeing if I can pick up any new tricks from your stuff. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 17:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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Uff.... I made several captions, thanks for helping me.

-201.207.245.14 (talk) 02:53, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:DASH about the difference between dashes (-) and endashes (–). The latter are used in date or number ranges. Therefore, the edit, where you changed them to dashes, was incorrect. I have fixed this error, but wanted to let you know for future editing. Jeangabin (talk) 08:29, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

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someone has a user name real close to yours just thought i would give you a heads up. there username is User:JT Spike —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcheagle (talk • contribs)

:Thanks for the heads up. TJ Spyke 18:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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Check it out I started a subpage User:Curtis23/List of Unified Tag Team Champions tell me how i'm doing on my talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curtis23 (talk • contribs)

:TBH, I don't see the need for a page to exist for it. Info on the titles is already contained on the page for the title, and the list of champions are contained on each title already. Also, a table for combined reigns doesn't exist until at least 1 person holds it more than once (see List of WWE Divas Champions). TJ Spyke 23:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Why do you have to be so critical? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curtis23 (talk • contribs)

:You asked me my opinion, I replied. Don't complain if you ask someone their opinion and you don't like their opinion. TJ Spyke 23:18, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I changed it now look User:Curtis23/List of Unified Tag Team Champions —Preceding undated comment added 15:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC).

Just wanted to drop you a note on this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WrestleMania_XXIV&diff=315034945&oldid=314933036] edit. I absolutely have no idea how that happened. You have seen me around and should know that I don't knowingly take out good info, yet I cannot explain how the edit occurred or why - I just wanted to let you know it was not intentional. ArcAngel (talk) 21:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

You're so bitter... XD^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 21:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The PPV is 2 months away so I can put it on.--Curtis23 (talk) 22:51, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Stop Being so hard-headed you told me 2 months guess what the PPVs in December and it's October the order of the months in October, November, December that's 2 months.--Curtis23 (talk) 23:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

What uncensored edits did i do to Wrestlemania XXVI?--Curtis23 (talk) 16:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Pot meet kettle! Don't lecture me on fixing links please TJ, you ignore that guideline often enough yourself, like this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mike_Awesome&diff=prev&oldid=316598463 example] from my watchlist (complete with misleading edit summary I might add). The only difference here is you disagree with the articles being at WWE SmackDown and ECW (WWE). ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

:Quite frankly I couldn't care less about your reasoning, especially not after seeing [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Parks&diff=prev&oldid=317899682 this]. The hypocrisy you've exhibited tonight by lecturing me on "fixing redirects", while you've continued to do the same thing yourself after "warning" me, just with different articles and misleading edit summaries, is staggering. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 04:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

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Hi; in future, when trying to remove private information, you shouldn't post it publicly (then everyone sees it!) but instead follow the instructions at WP:RFO. Cheers! ╟─TreasuryTag►Not-content─╢ 21:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

...unlink redirects-to-self? If so, would you mind terribly unlinking all the redirects-to-self at Deal or No Deal (US) models? Thanks kindly, –xeno^talk 22:31, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks.. I have AWB, I didn't realize it fixed redirs-to-self. If you can go ahead and do that, that would be great. Thanks. –xeno^talk 23:02, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Say what? Your repeated reverts on List of World Heavyweight Champions (WWE) to every editor, has got me to the point that I'm ready to report you for 3RR. So, seeing from it at the moment, I believe you have violated that rule. After further inspection, I'll see if you have done any wrong. This is a warning at the moment.--WillC 23:20, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

:The fact you added a note that was agreed to not be noted that was removed by three editors before would show some interest to admins. From what I've gathered in the edits, reverting edits to a user who haded refs would show interest, then starting an edit war over those refs would be interesting. Your history of edit warring over the notes should show some interest. At the moment, I'll let it slide since you have been around a while. But remember, I'm watching. Certainly on WWE Bragging Rights, you have two reverts there.--WillC 23:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

::At the moment that situation is split 3 to 3. A poster is nice to use, and I agreed with using the In Demand poster as I usually do. But now that a new logo is out, it would be better to use something with it in it, or the logo. Preferably I would rather use the logo over the wallpaper, but being accurate it all that matters to me. Now understand, I don't hate you so the situation at ANI, etc is nothing personnel, it is just business. Accurancy, etc is all it is about.--WillC 00:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

TJ, please don't take my edits as an attack on you. However, it appears you do not understand the process of establishing the cause of death, and determining the killer in a murder-suicide. You seem to think a trial is needed for him to be the murderer. This is simply not true. In such a case, the coroner and investigators have the legal authority to make findings--just like a judge. In this case, they determiend--as is their legal right--that the action was commited by Benoit and it was in fact a murder. Thus, any statement tot he contrary, even the use of "suspected" is giving undue weight to a POV that is irrational and unsupported. Furthermore, givent he facts, any edit to the contrary is being done in bad faith and is vandalism. You may disagree witht his perspective, as is your right, however, it is impossible to disagree with the undue weight argument and the fact that legal authorities have stated he is the murderer. Thanks. Also, in the future, place the comments on the article talk page instead of my talk page. thanks again. CraigMonroe (talk) 19:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

You're not repairing links to disambiguation pages, what you are doing is bypassing redirects. Please see Wikipedia:R2D, we typically do not fix redirects that are not broken. –xeno^talk 17:36, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

You've also been running this task in inappropriate places like archives, archived discussions, etc. You should cease this task, it is not necessary. –xeno^talk 17:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I only fix the link if it is obvious what they are talking about (like if they link to "E3" while talking about video games, it is obvious they are referring to "Electronic Entertainment Expo"). There is no reason to be reverting all of my edits, especially since my edits are actually improving them. TJ Spyke 17:49, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

:Do not fix links to redirects that are not broken, and especially do not do so on talk pages, user pages, archived discussions. –xeno^talk 17:53, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

::Again, if anything it is improving them. As for talkpages/userpagers/etc., they are no different than regular articles in terms of what is allowed in terms of editing. I don't know what problem you have with it (and you are the only one I have seen), it doesn't affect you and it improves Wikipedia. TJ Spyke 17:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

:::Please see Wikipedia:R2D and cease fixing redirects that are not broken. This is a guideline and your reason for "fixing" these redirects that aren't broken isn't compelling. The fact that there is a section of a guideline that specifically covers this should indicate that I am not the only one who has a problem with this. –xeno^talk 18:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

:::Also, talk pages ARE different than articles in that you should not edit other comments. Neither should you edit archived discussions. Perhaps there is a reason they linked to a redirect. Perhaps not. Either way, no need to fix it, nor should you. Save yourself the effort. Sorry if I'm coming off as overly curt here, but these edits are entirely unnecessary. –xeno^talk 18:32, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

• You continue to fix redirects that aren't broken and are using a misleading edit summary in doing so. Please stop. –xeno^talk 19:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
• Please review [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Nintendo_64_games&diff=318314764&oldid=318312503 this edit]. These are the types of redirects you should not be fixing, so I restored the entirely appropriate redirects. Now if someone creates an article at any of those redirects, there is already a link in place. –xeno^talk 20:28, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• Can you please fix your edit summary? If you are doing other work than just "fixing links to disambiguation pages" you should note that in your edit summary. Thanks, –xeno^talk 19:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Just thought I'd let you know your edits on this page could constitute as Edit warring and you should leave your discussions on the WP PW talk page, since you are an established user you should know how to somewhat attempt to avoid this type of conflict. Afro ^{Talkie Talk - Afkatk} 08:58, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Total_Nonstop_Action_Wrestling&diff=318756271&oldid=318752900] I understand you tag a lot of things on Wikipedia, I honestly am not requesting you stop as it would stop the progress of Wikipedia, but sourcing such as this I do request rather than just simply tagging it and moving on, you go out of your way to improve the source, it's not a terribly big issue its just a small request. Afro ^{Talkie Talk - Afkatk} 04:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about this, I made one or two spelling errors on my message, my one sentence should've been I am not requesting that you stop tagging. Afro ^{Talkie Talk - Afkatk} 10:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Do you realize what it means to have a threshold of 200 days? I've added a few names and there's still a lot more missing: cade & murdoch, the spirit squad (that's five wrestlers), the quebecers, brutus beefcake, greg valentine, that's too many names. Secretaria (Talk) 19:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

:You're really devoted, I see. Secretaria (Talk) 19:16, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

::Unfortunately, we really can't put them all. Let's leave it at 250. Secretaria (Talk) 19:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

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• On October 2, the project reached its goal of 150 DYKs, and the number has continued to rise. Congratulations to everyone who helped in achieving this goal.
• Based on the members list, there are currently 233 members participating in WikiProject Professional wrestling.

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• Shinsuke Nakamura won the vacant IWGP Heavyweight Championship on September 27 by defeating Togi Makabe.
• Lizmark, Jr. left Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre and Charly Manson left Asistencia Asesoría y Administración to join Perro Aguayo, Jr.'s Perros del Mal promotion.
• The Perros del Mal promotion announced a television deal with Televisa Canal 9.
• On the September 29 episode of ECW, William Regal was announced as the interim general manager, as Tiffany had been injured in a kayfabe car crash. This storyline was put in place as Tiffany suffered a broken humerus at the Florida Championship Wrestling television tapings on September 24, but she was able to return to television on the October 6 episode of ECW.
• Lacey Von Erich made her TNA debut on the October 1 episode of Impact!.
• On October 2, Ken Anderson won the Nu-Wrestling Evolution World Heavyweight Championship in Malta, by defeating Chuck Palumbo and Tiny Iron in a three-way match.
• At Hell in a Cell on October 4:
• The Undertaker won the World Heavyweight Championship by defeating CM Punk in a Hell in a Cell match.
• Randy Orton won the WWE Championship in a Hell in a Cell match by defeating John Cena.
• On the October 5 episode of Raw, The Miz defeated Kofi Kingston to win the WWE United States Championship.
• Asistencia Asesoría y Administración announced a deal with Playmates Toys to manufacture a range of action figures and masks on October 6. The range will be launched in late 2010.
• On the October 8 episode of Impact!, Amazing Red defeated Samoa Joe to win the TNA X Division Championship.

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Hey man, I edited the topic from a reliable source: http://www.tnawrestlingnews.com/headlines/257654159.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.81.179.134 (talk) 23:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

:Replied. TJ Spyke 23:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I saw the info on the 'Edge' Wikipedia page. I thought it was best to add it there

-aguyok —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aguyok (talk • contribs) 00:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi there,

In September you commented on the proposal to move Mac OS X Snow Leopard to its original title, Mac OS X v10.6. I believe that its current title is most appropriate, and have opened another proposal for Mac OS X v10.3, v10.4, and v10.5 to follow this new convention and be moved to Mac OS X Panther, Tiger, and Leopard, respectively. I'd like to establish a consensus on the subject, and since you were involved in the previous discussion on the subject, I thought you might like to offer an opinion here as well. There is only one vote other than my own so far, and I'd like to hear some more opinions rather than declare a consensus on this limited basis.

Thanks in advance. If you'd like to contact me, please do so on my user talk page or the proposal itself. —INTRIGUEBLUE (talk|contribs) 21:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Just letting you know that your move was reverted, as consensus had not been reached to move the highly debated page. There is an ongoing discussion and debate about the name change at the talk page, please see Talk:Modern Warfare 2 to join discussion. — CIS ^(talk | stalk) 22:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

You might be interested in Talk:Helvig of Holstein. Surtsicna (talk) 19:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Why are you running that bot on my talk page archives? Theleftorium 14:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

:I appreciate that, but some of the wikilinks (such as Agnes Skinner (The Simpsons)) where supposed to go to redirects. To avoid confusion, archives should generally not be edited. Keep up the good work on the articles, though. :) Theleftorium 14:16, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

• TJ since you continue to "fix" redirects that are not broken, I have initiated a thread at ANI to see if your actions have consensus in light of WP:R2D. Best regards, –xeno^talk 14:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

To TJ Spyke: Please stop making these edits until you have discussed this further with other editors. -- The Anome (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/The abominable Wiki troll ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 01:29, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

This user has been edit warring over these for a while, we better not push the 3RR. Nevertheless, we can trade articles to avoid edit warring ourselves. He already began with the personal attacks, if he keeps up the disruption, ma AIV report is a sure block, but we need to focus on keeping the pages clean in the meanwhile. - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

can you please undo the damage by 124.170.184.129, he edited to make it look like Kurt left TNA for the WWE, when in fact, Kurt is still with TNA and is about to start a feud with Nigel "Desmond Wolfe" McGuinness--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 07:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

You have deleted a post I added regarding Super Mario Bros. The rules of posting clearly state content must be verifiable and be referenced by a reliable source. My statement that a person can reach World -1 by beating Super Mario Bros. 8 times in a row without being touched by a single enemy is verifiable. A person is still able to obtain the original Super Mario Bros. and complete the task.

Regarding the reliability of the source, that is debatable. As the only person I know to have successfully completed the above task, I would likely be classified as the premier expert on the subject.

I would accept editing my post with a statement similar to "a person has claimed to have reached the World -1 by..." but your deliberate act of the complete removal of the information is a major reason the academic community holds Wikipedia in such low regard.

I am not going to re-edit the original article because I feel this isn't really worth my time. I just wanted to let you know that you have inappropriately removed real information from the public domain that many people may be interested in. Jimmy oh (talk) 15:12, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Apologies if I am violating some Wikipedia communication methodology.

I have a very large ego. I also have correspondingly large accomplishments. A person can classify themselves as an expert if they are an expert, it is just extremely rude to do so. (I understand a non-expert may not understand this concept.)

You can't accurately compare a resource like Encyclopedia Britannica to Wikipedia. It is similar to comparing Albert Einstein to my chronically ill West Highland Terrier.

Rather than acknowledging someone somewhere might have accomplished a task, would like to share the results of said task with others in case they would like to reproduce it, you choose to hide the information from the world because, I assume, the information would only be deemed worthy if the writers of the original code verified they included the option to reach World -1 if a person were to beat the game 8 times in a row.

Your censorship of my edit was done inappropriately. If you do not have the proper frame of reference to understand my point, I will not commit any more time in helping you achieve it.

Any further response from me can be assumed to be "I'm rubber, you're glue" or "I know you are but what am I", whichever you prefer. Jimmy oh (talk) 17:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Do not delete warning comments from pages. Your edits to The Critic ignored the rules WP:TENSE which were clearly stated in the comment you deleted. -- Horkana (talk) 00:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

:And you clearly don't know how to edit based on your action. TJ Spyke 00:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

:: Your edit summary: Previous editor is either inexperienced or not a good editor. You don't revert an entire good edit just because you disagee with one part (BTW, the tense should be "was")). Your initial edit was in bad faith, you changed the wording ignoring a clear warning explaining exactly why you should not change the tense but you did it anyway. You are not a good editor. If your edit had been in good faith and something more important than disambiguating links I might have made the extra effort to preserve the edits. Your rude edit summary and belligerent claim that the tense should be "was" made it look like more bad faith on your part. Do not expect others to be generous with their time if you ignore and delete warnings and make impolite comments. -- Horkana (talk) 01:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

::: Your own user profile says it more succinctly "This user has experienced edit wars and does not wish to be involved again. Please be civil and no personal attacks." -- Horkana (talk) 01:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Just a little curious as to why you use WikiCleaner to "cleanup" redirects? Both the edit summary and the primary purpose of WC is to find and correct links to dab pages. Cleaning up redirects seems to be a waste of the software's time, isn't it?

 —  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  06:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

:I disagree. There is very little harm in redirects, and they can stop readers from scratching their heads and wondering why they landed on a page they weren't expecting. I can understand wanting to fix a dab link, but I must ask you to follow the guideline and stop fixing redirects with the bot. It makes you and the bot look "anal".

: —  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  06:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

:Just to show you that I agree there are some times when "fixing" Redirects is the right thing to do, I fixed one today in a template, because the page about a town in India was not highlighted (bolded and unlinked) on the template (due to the Redirect). So yes, TJ, there are times when it's appropriate... just not all the time.

: —  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  00:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

:*PS. So while Redirects in article namespace are really no big deal, templates are a good place to "fix" Redirects. In case you're interested, it was the Template:World's most populous urban areas where I fixed the Redirect (#43).

"despite some morons thinking they are and are too lazy to check guidelines and policies"

:Yikes.- Sinneed 04:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

On my talk page you wrote:

As any editor here who knows me will say, I don't hold back my thoughts and opinions. You admit on your page that you are politically incorrect too. Yes, I think people who assume schools are automatically notable are morons. Everytime I see someone say "Keep, schools are notable" in an AFD, I want to punch that person. There is no policy or guideline to support that claim, and existing ones actually say schools are subject to the same general guidelines as all articles. That AFD should not have been speedy closed, and the admin should not have flat out lied in their reason (the admin closed it, the nominator did not withdraw the nomination). I would have said Delete because that school is clearly not notable enough to have a article. TJ Spyke 04:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

::And this school is notable, as a quick news search showed (and yes whoever loved the article in the 1st place should have done so but they aren't editing). The news is typical high-school news... opened, school happy... kid committed suicide, school sad... team won, school happy... team lost, school fires coach... team still losing, coach quits... blah blah blah why bother? I like the merge idea, small school, small town, no real content. The afd was a waster, if one sees a school article with nothing there, easypoof redirect, no fuss no muss no bother.

::"lied" - I doubt that. Incorrect I would support. wp:AGF.

::The moron thing wasn't politically incorrect, that was a wp:personal attack. You know better.

::PC snarkiness would be: using a disability as an insult is insulting not only to the target, but to those who cherish the disabled individuals, and the disabled.

::You need not answer me, you surely don't need my approval. :) But if you do answer, you may safely do it here, as I will watch for a couple of days for any comment.

- Sinneed 04:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

:::Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully, but I just got sick of how many people assume schools are notable just for being schools (and then use that as their ONLY basis for voting Keep in a AFD). As for calling the admin a liar, I don't know what else to call him TBH. The nominator didn't show any signs of wanting to withdraw the deletion nomination, yet the admin claimed they did. TJ Spyke 13:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

::::My thought was "Withdrawn?! Now THAT's a screwup!" - but that is just me. My boss argues I am far too trusting. I can't agree with him. :) - Sinneed 16:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

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• Mexican National Welterweight Championship {{small|(review page)}} is a current Featured list candidate.
• Adam Copeland, Gregory Helms, Jason Reso, Michelle McCool, Rosey and The Hurricane, TNA Knockout Tag Team Championship, and TNA Women's Knockout Championship are current Good article nominees.
• The following articles appeared on the main page in the Did You Know? column:
• October 12: La Parka (AAA)
• October 13: Women Superstars Uncensored
• October 17: Rhett Titus
• Deletion discussions:
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• Deleted: Beverly Mullins, List of nicknames of pro wrestlers, TNM (video game), Trinity McCray, and Tyrone Evans.
• Files for deletion
• Deleted: File:Braggingrights2009a.JPG
• Requested moves
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• Not moved: Vince McMahon to Vince McMahon, Jr. {{small|(discussion)}}

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• 6 - Dragon Gate USA presents Untouchable
• 15 - Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) presents Turning Point
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• On the October 12 episode of Raw, Jillian Hall won the WWE Divas Championship by defeating Mickie James, but lost the championship to Melina immediately afterwards.
• "Captain" Lou Albano died at the age of 76 on October 14.
• On October 15 it was announced that WWE had signed Barri Griffiths, a Welsh professional wrestler and former Gladiator, to a developmental contract.
• On October 16, Shane McMahon announced that he was retiring from World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), effective as of January 1, 2010.
• At Bound for Glory on October 18:
• Eric Young won the TNA Legends Championship by defeating the defending champion Kevin Nash and Hernandez in a three way match.
• Team 3D (Brother Devon and Brother Ray) won the IWGP Tag Team Championship in a four way Full Metal Mayhem match. In the same match, The British Invasion (Brutus Magnus and Doug Williams) won the TNA World Tag Team Championship.
• Daffney suffered a broken arm after taking a bump during the match between Mick Foley and Abyss.
• On October 20, it was reported that Nigel McGuinness had signed with TNA. He made his debut on the October 22 episode of Impact! as "Desmond Wolfe".
• Chris Sabin suffered a stinger at the Impact! taping on October 21.
• On October 23, it was reported that Lance Cade had re-signed with WWE.

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Before automatically reverting everything I've done, please look at the response I left on my talk page. Thanks. -Thibbs (talk) 21:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Just stop. There is nothing wrong with updating it with each fall result. If you are going to resort to "this isn't a place for fanboy updates", you might as well just have no match results until every PPV is officially over. So leave the article alone instead of watching it and reverting any little thing. Fall results are equal to match results, so stop forcing people to conform to your personal opinion. RobJ1981 (talk) 02:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

:Whatever. You need to stop thinking you are right all the time, then you wouldn't be edit warring so much over articles you watch. Don't use a bad mood as an excuse. No one forced you to reply, so next time turn the computer off instead of posting rude remarks towards people. RobJ1981 (talk) 04:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)