User talk:Ystava
Editing out two perfectly sourced links is not a fair edit. Both links are of repute and do relate to the topic. To remove them would be to poorly represent the situation- one website is a database, the second has been referenced in many magazines, including the HDR and News@Norman, thus of note. --Ziegfest (talk) 03:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
These links are not neutral external links. Neither link is of repute as you claim. The database is community edited and has very low membership in comparison to Congresspedia (another community edited database). The other site you reference has only been quoted in a letter to the editor, both of which were written by the same person. That does not qualify it as a reliable source. Ystava (talk) 12:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
However, both have enough repute to justify being online. To remove them would be to only tell half the story- and considering the site exists as a sourced location for information, it would actually be a disservice to readers to remove it. Let's put it this way- McHenry's congressional site has plenty of Pro-McHenry stuff, and there's nothing wrong with adding something like Republicans against Patrick McHenry, especially since it's leagues better than previous blogs on there (Pat go Bye Bye comes to mind, which was an attack blog). Consider it the lesser of two evils. --Ziegfest (talk) 18:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Your rationale of accepting "the lesser of two evils" does not follow Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion of the blog to which you keep linking.
"Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy."
Because the article is about a living person, there is this policy to also consider: WP:BLP
We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high quality references. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space.
Biographies of living persons (BLPs) must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. The possibility of harm to living subjects is one of the important factors to be considered when exercising editorial judgement.
Copyedit Backlog Elimination Drive
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|Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive! ---- {{ombox|type=content|text=Discussions are underway to elect our inaugural group of GOCE Coordinators. Guild members and Drive participants are invited to have a look at the Coordinators page and join the discussion on its associated talk page.}} We have reached the midway point in our backlog elimination drive, so here is an update. Participation report — The November drive has 53 participants at this point. We had 77 participants in the September drive. In July, 95 people signed up for the drive, and in May we had 36. If you are not participating, it is not too late to join! Progress report — The drive is quite successful so far, as we have already almost reached our target of a 10% reduction in the number of articles in the backlog. We are doing very well at keeping our Requests page clear, as those articles count double for word count for this drive. Please keep in mind the possibility of removing other tags when you are finished with an article. If the article no longer needs {{tp|cleanup}}, {{tp|wikify}}, or other similar maintenance tags, please remove them, as this will make the tasks of other WikiProjects easier to complete. Thanks very much for participating in the Drive, and see you at the finish line! Your drive coordinators –The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk) |
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Barnstars If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the September 2010 backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering these barnstars within the next couple of weeks. Our next drive is scheduled for January 2011. In the meantime, please consider helping out at the Wikification drive or any of the other places where help with backlogs is needed. Thank you for participating in the last 2010 backlog elimination drive! We look forward to seeing you in January! Your drive coordinators –The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk) |
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| Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 backlog elimination drive ---- Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! The drive is halfway over, so here are some mid-drive stats. Image:10yrs-contributing k.svg ;Participation So far, 43 people have signed up for this drive. Of these, 25 have participated. If you signed up for the drive but haven't participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you haven't signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. ;Progress report We have eliminated two months from the backlog – January and February 2009. One of our goals is to eliminate as many months as possible from the 2009 backlog. Please help us reduce the size of this part of the backlog if you haven't already. Another goal is to reduce the entire backlog by 10%, or by 515 articles. Currently, we have eliminated 375 articles from the queue, so if each participant copy edits four more articles, we will reach that goal. Thank you for participating in the January 2011 drive. We anticipate it will be another big success! Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), The UtahraptorTalk to me, and Tea with toast (Talk) |
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