WP:In the news/Candidates#Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff

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{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Shahid Rajaee port explosion

| image = Smoke billowing from Shahid Rajaee port explosion, 26 April 2025.jpg

| blurb = An explosion and fire (pictured) at the Port of Shahid Rajaee, southern Iran, kills at least 14 people and injures more than 750 others.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/26/middleeast/iran-bandar-abbas-port-explosion-intl/index.html CNN] – [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx251yyvwr3o BBC]

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| nominator = Bakhos2010

| creator = BasselHarfouch

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| nom cmt =

| sign = Bakhos Let's talk! 14:14, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Support Many families have been impacted and the article looks fair. I am also hoping that it will be further improved as new information continue to emerge. SurveyMonkey...

• Support Reminds me the 2020 Beirut explosion. Decent article. ArionStar (talk) 15:37, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose based on the current information. Tragic event, but the death toll currently is quite low (I appreciate it could increase). Comparing it with the Beirut explosion that killed over 200 people does not at the moment appear logical. Black Kite (talk) 15:42, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:Support due to the high amount of casualties. The article could be improved, but over 700 injured and a death toll that's expected to increase by a lot is significant. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 15:58, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

• Five deaths with more than 700 people injured are enough, IMHO. ArionStar (talk) 16:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - large amount of injuries, article looks alright-ish, some deaths. WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 16:59, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:Comment, I updated the blurb death count per the article's sources. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:18, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::Comment Edited the blurb with the updated death toll. Kaito-san (talk/contribs) 21:58, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support 750+ is notable, and article looks to be good. TheHiddenCity (talk) 23:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Jair da Costa

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.espn.com.br/futebol/artigo/_/id/15102226/morre-jair-da-costa-campeao-copa-mundo-1962-selecao-idolo-historico-inter-milao ESPN]

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| nominator = ArionStar

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| nom cmt =

| sign = ArionStar (talk) 21:14, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Walt Jocketty

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/walt-jocketty-dies-at-74-mlb-executive-won-world-series-titles-with-cardinals-and-as/]

| updated =

| nominator = Muboshgu

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = – Muboshgu (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article =Yaroslav Moskalik

| recent deaths = yes

|source=[https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/who-was-yaroslav-moskalik-senior-russian-general-killed-in-car-blast-just-outside-moscow/3822529/financialexpress.com/world-news/who-was-yaroslav-moskalik-senior-russian-general-killed-in-car-blast-just-outside-moscow/3822529/ Financial Express]

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| nominator = Pharaoh of the Wizards

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| nom cmt =Senior Russian general

| sign = Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:29, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article =Krishnaswamy Kasturirangan

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/k-kasturirangan-visionary-space-scientist-and-architect-of-indias-education-reforms-passes-away-at-84/articleshow/120631811.cms The Times of India]

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| nominator = Pharaoh of the Wizards

| updaters =

| nom cmt =Indian space scientist.

| sign = Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:46, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Not yet ready Many claims are unsourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:19, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Tons of unreferenced information. SurveyMonkey...

{{ITN candidate

| article =Alexis Herman

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.clintonfoundation.org/press-and-news/general/statement-from-president-clinton-and-secretary-clinton-on-the-passing-of-alexis-herman/ Clinton Foundation]

| updated =

| nominator = Onegreatjoke

| updaters = Kelisi

| nom cmt =American politician. Article is a GA

| sign = Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:27, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Support, it is a GA. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:09, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support The article is detailed enough. SurveyMonkey...
• Support: article still looks to be in good shape, with citations for recent material. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 15:34, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Virginia Giuffre

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/virginia-giuffre-one-jeffrey-epsteins-prominent-abuse-survivors-dies-s-rcna203027 NBC News]

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| nominator = ElijahPepe

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| nom cmt =

| sign = elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:17, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Support Very sad. Article is complete enough. RIP. Bremps... 02:33, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Shocking. Article in good shape but a major red flag in the lead "alleged victim of child sex offender". From the body and references it is pretty clear that things are material way beyond mere allegations (we do not provide the same benefit to Epstein's lead/article for e.g.), needs to be changed. Gotitbro (talk) 03:51, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Involves BLP of several people, many not proven in court. We go with cited information, and don't make claims of what may or may not be ultimately true. With criminal allegations, articles will cover the history of the allegations and any legal proceedings that follow from them, but refrain from saying what may or may not have actually transpired. Quotations of relevant parties may be added if it's WP:DUE. Harizotoh9 (talk) 05:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article is well referenced. I am just concerned with the Health issues and death section as it has lots of words in quotes. SurveyMonkey...
• Support - Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 15:52, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - article looks good. But should it be blurbed? Nfitz (talk) 16:20, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Nah. ITN would have too many death blurbs. Bremps... 18:02, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::I don't think that ITN having too many death blurbs is a valid reason to turn down a blurb. Deaths happen without predetermined regularity or discernible patterns. If many deaths of notable people happen by cooincidence, it is what it is. However, I don't think Giuffre's overall contributions, while they are impactful, warrants a blurb. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:05, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Per above, everything looks ready to go from what I can see. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:05, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• Marked as ready 3142 (talk)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Fernando Collor de Mello

| image = Plenário do Congresso (20688904098) (cropped).jpg

| blurb = Former president of Brazil Fernando Collor de Mello (pictured) is arrested following a corruption conviction by Supreme Federal Court justice Alexandre de Moraes.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://apnews.com/article/brazil-fernando-collor-former-president-corruption-prison-04c4c04d633c7a02aadd086e2fcaf734 AP]

| updated =

| nominator = ArionStar

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Considering to create Arrest of Fernando Collor de Mello. It's time to blurb arrests of Latin American presidents.

| sign = ArionStar (talk) 15:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Not ready. Major issues regarding the lack of citations in many paragraphs, and the information regarding his arrest isn't well-represented in the article. PrimalMustelid (talk) 15:52, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• :I'm trying to fix it. ArionStar (talk) 16:30, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose He was already convicted, and had not been serving time due to the case being in appeals. Masem (t) 16:01, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose: The article has a {{tl|BLP sources}} tag since 2016. On a side note, an article about the case that led to this would be better than a "Arrest of..." article. Cambalachero (talk) 16:10, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Latin American president is corrupt. More at 11. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:42, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose until there is a proper arrest article. Scuba 00:35, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::There is never a need for a separate article. Masem (t) 04:33, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article looks fine to me, head of a state getting convicted is always going to be an ITN story, especially if it happens where corruption is the norm (so I don't see merit in opposes on that ground, there is also no requirement for separate [arrest] articles). He is out of appeals and this is it. Gotitbro (talk) 04:20, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Nantes school stabbing

| image = File:NDTA.jpg

| blurb = A mass stabbing at a school in Nantes, France, kills one and injures three.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

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| sources = [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c787r15xngyo BBC News], [https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/french-high-school-student-kills-one-injures-three-nantes-stabbing-attack-2025-04-24/ Reuters], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/24/world/europe/french-school-knife-attack.html The New York Times], [https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/attaque-au-couteau-dans-un-lycee-de-nantes-dans-quels-cas-peut-on-fouiller-le-sac-d-un-eleve-dans-les-etablissements-scolaires-2367178.html TF1 News]

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| nominator = 7kk

| creator = 7kk

| updaters = 7kk

| nom cmt = Recent event which is being covereded by serveral reliable news sources. The article follows layout guidelines and is cited substantially, it was also improved from a stub to Start-class.

| sign = 7kk (talk) 14:39, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Strong oppose per WP:SUSPECT - directly naming the accused suspect that isn't a public figure that hasn't been convicted. Also, strong oppose on notability - low death toll and doesn't appear important contextually as-is. Departure– (talk) 14:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::Oppose - As horrible as a stabbing is, especially targeting a school, I really don't see this being notable-enough to post. — EF5 ^(questions?) 14:53, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::I can understand the oppose on notability, but I would like to mention that the article does follow WP:SUSPECT. "editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured for that crime." - since no conviction has been secured, there is nothing in the article which suggests or attempts to imply the suspect committed the crime. 7kk (talk) 15:41, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Having the name of a 15-year-old under the prominent "accused" part of the infobox or really being named at all falls under the "{{green|that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime}} part of that. Departure– (talk) 15:49, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Oh snap, you're right, best remove the name then. 7kk (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Given the current suspect is known to have been a classmate, this seems like a domestic incident rather than one with larger implications (eg terrorism related). Masem (t) 16:00, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Tragic but limited incident, with no sign of wider implications. We can't put every death of a child in ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 16:15, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose a kid knifing another kid hardly seems to be major news - whether or not they are a Shark or a Jet. Nfitz (talk) 18:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

• Soft Support from everything I'm reading this was a terrorist attack, with a fatality. Sure it skirts the edge of what should be ITN but I think it barely makes it. Scuba 18:27, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Oppose Even if it turns out to be terrorism, this seems rather tame compared to what France has been through. Bremps... 18:07, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:Terrorist attack User:Scu ba? Is there a source for that? Going to our own article, I don't see this, but it does say that 'he may have killed the girl because she did not want to be in a relationship with him and she rejected him on a school field trip'. That's not terrorism. Nfitz (talk) 06:24, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::The Suspect {{tq|sent a 13-page document described as a manifesto titled Immune Action. The document advocated enviromentalism, anti-industrialism and anti-globalism, "denouncing the state of the world", particularly "systemic violence" and "social alienation", writing that society is an "immense conditioning operation" aimed at "rendering human beings docile, predictable and programmable}}. That sounds like a terrorist to me. Scuba 15:43, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Sounds more like mentally unstable to me. A one-time act by a young teen, with no association with other people or groups, doesn't meet the usual definition of a terrorist, except in the most loose usage which could extend to anyone shouting at a police officer who gives them a parking ticket. Nfitz (talk) 16:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Until we are given a motive (which last time I checked, we haven't been), there's no way to determine if it was a terrorist attack. Given the suspect's focus on ideology, it seems probable this stabbing would be attributed to some kind of ideological motive in the future, if the suspect is proven guilty of course. However at the moment, I don't think it can be. 7kk (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Steve McMichael

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44823944/hall-famer-bears-icon-steve-mongo-mcmichael-dies-age-67 ESPN], [https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3497983/2025/04/23/bears-steve-mcmichael-obituary/ New York Times/The Athletic]

| updated =

| nominator = The Kip

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Hall of Fame NFL player and WCW pro wrestler. Article needs a tiny bit of work but is generally in good shape.

| sign = The Kip ^(contribs) 23:57, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Oppose The wrestling kayfabe is presented as factual. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:57, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• :@Andrew Davidson I don't see what you're talking about - it's written as a description of storyline, same as any other wrestler's page. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:02, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::Perhaps that's a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS problem. Readers really should have some indication whether {{tqq|Ric Flair started hitting on McMichael's wife Debra}} is real or kayfabe. For example, actor bios are expected to differentiate between their character portrayals and real life. —Bagumba (talk) 06:10, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality numerous quality concerns here. There is uncited text in the lead which isn't mentioned elsewhere in the body of the article. He had a 15 year American football career, yet our section on it is short and comprised mostly of stats. Wrestling career is slightly in-universe, but this is least of the issues. And there's an orange tagged section. All in all, nowhere near meeting WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose due to orange tag. Scuba 20:12, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per User:Andrew Davidson. The article is nonsensical, and it's difficult to tell what is a plot-line from the TV show they were in, and what is real. This is like trying to read an article about Elizabeth Montgomery talking about which spells she used on William Asher. I'd suggest some major clean-up, and perhaps a split to what character(s) they were playing. Nfitz (talk) 18:14, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

{{atop|No fatalities, moderate damage, consensus to post will not develop. Stephen 23:18, 23 April 2025 (UTC)}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Istanbul earthquake

| image = 2025 Sea of Marmara earthquake (M 6.2) shakemap.pdf

| blurb = A magnitude-6.2 earthquake (map of the epicenter pictured) struck the Sea of Marmara, leaving at least 272 people injured and damage in Istanbul and across the region.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://apnews.com/article/turkey-earthquake-istanbul-sea-marmara-magnitude-emergency-46f20a2c0b6fa3cad7634d28d1f7e5d7 AP]

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| nominator = ArionStar

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| nom cmt = No fatalities but extensive coverage.

| sign = ArionStar (talk) 16:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Oppose - No fatalities and I'm not seeing reports of major damage as of now. The response is the biggest story right now, and I don't see much merit in this story as-is right now. Departure– (talk) 16:48, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Departure. Thankfully seems to have had a comparatively minimal impact, versus the earthquakes we've posted before. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:50, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - no fatalities, relatively minor quake, damage appears minor. WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 17:08, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Wait for more information, were there any fatalities that haven't been reported yet? User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 19:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Keith Stackpole

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-23/keith-stackpole-australia-test-cricketer-dies-aged-84/105204754], [https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/australian-cricket-icon-keith-stackpole-dies-at-the-age-of-84/news-story/ef6dfcf13c4f2a01cc97678e0d949c90?dicbo=v2-2gQ1rwM]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Happily888

| updaters = Normantas Bataitis, Jcok380

| nom cmt =

| sign = Happily888 (talk) 03:13, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Oppose Much of the biography section is unsourced. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:04, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose orange tag. Scuba 20:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

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| ITNR = yes

| image = Sharon Lokedi 2025b.jpg

| caption = Sharon Lokedi

| article = 2025 Boston Marathon

| blurb = Over 30,000 runners compete in the Boston Marathon. Sharon Lokedi (pictured) beats the women's course record with a time of 2:17:22, while John Korir (men's division), Marcel Hug (men's wheelchair division), and Susannah Scaroni (women's wheelchair division) win their respective divisions.

| altblurb = Thousands of runners complete the Boston Marathon. John Korir, Sharon Lokedi (pictured), Marcel Hug, and Susannah Scaroni win their respective divisions, with Lokedi breaking the women's course record.

| altblurb2 = Over 30,000 runners compete in the Boston Marathon. Sharon Lokedi (pictured) beats the women's course record with a time of 2:17:22, while John Korir wins the men's division with a time of 2:04:45.

| altblurb3 = At the Boston Marathon, Sharon Lokedi (pictured) and John Korir win their respective divisions.

|altblurb4 = Sharon Lokedi (pictured) and John Korir win their respective divisions at the Boston Marathon.

| sources = [https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/live-updates/boston-marathon-2025-live-updates/ CBS], [https://www.wcvb.com/article/129th-boston-marathon-2025-live-updates/64503586 WCVB]

| nom cmt = per WP:ITN/R#Marathons, and a course record was broken

| sign = Ahuman00 (talk) 19:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Comment We usually only cover the men's and women's winners, not the other divisions, simply to keep the blurb brief. Masem (t) 19:38, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:: Added altblurb2 with this in mind. Ahuman00 (talk) 19:43, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::That's still too complex. Usually it's something like "At the Boston Marathon, X wins the men's division and Y wins the women's." including how many participated is too much for how brief we should be. Masem (t) 19:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::: Added ab3. (Sorry, still new to this whole thing) Ahuman00 (talk) 19:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::::: John Korir is a disambig, so I redirected to John Korir (born 1996) Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::: That's my bad, I'm all over today. Added image caption and bolded the article title in blurbs. Ahuman00 (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::::: Added alt blurb 4. Natg 19 (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::Alt-Blurb 4 since it's concise. After a few days switch to John Korir's picture. 23:53, 22 April 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harizotoh9 (talk • contribs)

:::::::For the alt photo of Korir, I'd suggest [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:John_Korir.jpg John Korir.jpg on Commons]. Left guide (talk) 00:06, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::How long do we expect this to be on ITN, if accepted? Ahuman00 (talk) 00:14, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Impossible to predict with certainty, but usually a few days, possibly a week, mainly depending on how quickly subsequent blurb nominations gain consensus. Left guide (talk) 00:17, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:Nominator comment - It appears blurb IV has the most support in replies. Looking to see if there's consensus to add to ITN. Add your 'support's/'oppose's/other constructive comments below. Ahuman00 (talk) 00:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose for now on quality. Article is barely more than a stub. Needs a lot of expansion, and in particular prose summaries for each of the events. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 08:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready. The article has no prose describing the races. There needs to be at least a paragraph each about the men's and women's races, with references, explaining what happened. If/when that's fixed, alt4 is the only decent blurb proposal. PS. I've piped out the year in the blurbs, which we never include Modest Genius ^talk 11:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :More than 24 hours later, there has been no progress on the article. Modest Genius ^talk 15:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality due to lack of prose. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:05, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality no race summary prose. Entrant information should be prose not bullet points, and could ideally also include entrants for the wheelchair and notable people from the mass participation event too. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Winner man is a stub, winner woman is badly sourced. Grimes2 16:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Soft support not seeing any glaring issues other than being a little short. Scuba 20:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality practically no prose on the race itself, most of the article is just a list of who was running. Black Kite (talk) 10:20, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support I can see that the article is well structured and sourced. SurveyMonkey...

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Pahalgam attack

| recent deaths = no

| blurb = At least 28 people are killed and several others injured in a terrorist attack in Pahalgam, India.

| altblurb = At least 28 people are killed and several others injured in an attack in Pahalgam, disputed-Jammu and Kashmir, India.

| altblurb2 = At least 28 people are killed and several others injured in an attack in Pahalgam, Indian-administered Kashmir.

| sources = [https://www.reuters.com/world/india/one-killed-seven-injured-militant-attack-indias-kashmir-india-today-tv-says-2025-04-22/ Reuters], [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/22/gunmen-open-fire-on-tourists-in-indian-administered-kashmir Al Jazeera], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/22/world/asia/kashmir-terrorist-attack.html New York Times]

| updated =

| nominator = RIDH-1

| updaters =

| nom cmt = The attack is among the deadliest targeting civilians in Kashmir in recent years and is the deadliest attack in the Valley after the Revocation of the special status of Jammu and Kashmir.

| sign = RIDH-1 (talk) 17:03, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

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:comment terrorist is a loaded term.Sportsnut24 (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::Don't want to sound rude but killing innocent tourists is undoubtedly an act of terrorism. RIDH-1 (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::It is not for us as a neutral platform to use loaded terms. State's also do that and we don't label it terrorism.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Wikipedia's reluctance to label such acts as terrorism, even when civilians are deliberately targeted, reflects a flawed neutrality that can blur moral clarity. Neutrality shouldn't come at the cost of calling out violence against innocents. RIDH-1 (talk) 18:35, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::You can always take it to discussion to do so. In that case, every state attack on civilians would also be labeled terrorist. However, you can take that to discussion to get consensus.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:41, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::Wikipedia isn't about "moral clarity" it's about cited information. It can't say anything is good or bad, and we let readers draw their own conclusions on such issues. Who is "innocent" or not is a POV and from the standpoint of an encyclopedia, no point of view is more important than others. Was this or that war good or bad? Is this person innocent? Very subjective, cultural, and endlessly debated and debatable and basically a waste of time. Instead, focus on improving articles so that readers can be best equipped to understand the topics so that they can draw conclusions on their own that are based on cited information. Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::Hey, we call bin Laden "militant reader" in the first lead sentence, if that tells you how cautiously we take the term "terrorist". — E_F⁵ 19:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::A pet peeve I have is the "domestic terrorist" exception. MOS:TERRORIST is inconsistently applied. See the lede of Timothy McVeigh. Bremps... 23:21, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:Comment This is part of an ongoing low-intensity civil war. Bremps... 18:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::I'm writing this comment assuming good faith :-) but calling it a "low-intensity civil war" is misleading. It’s a complex geopolitical conflict involving cross-border terrorism, separatist elements, and historical disputes between India and Pakistan. RIDH-1 (talk) 18:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::obvious support the casualty count if high enough and the context of it being so high since the changes make it notable. It is far more notable that boat drownings, rooftop collapses or discotheque fires.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Alt blurb 1 (though should use "Indian-administered Kashmir" per ITN precedent). Was on the fence about this (part of an ongoing dispute) but seeing this in line of the revocation of Article 370 of the Constitution of India and the specific targetting of civilians (uncommon for the region's militant groups); I think ITN criteria is met. Gotitbro (talk) 20:58, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• :{{re|gotitbro}} I added Altblurb2 which uses 'Indian-administered Kashmir'. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 03:54, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::Shifting support to alt-blurb 2. Gotitbro (talk) 04:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:*Support - but change terrorist to militant. I would also be alright with ALT1.

:WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 23:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Either blurb could do, and the number of deaths is quite significant. PrimalMustelid (talk) 00:01, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Added and Support altblurb II (an attack could be changed to a militant attack though): Massive attack after a moment of peace, reported to be 'larger attack at civilians in recent years', draws domestic and international reaction. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 01:53, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Looks good, well cited. However, the reaction section should be reduced as a long one serves no purpose. Sherenk1 (talk) 02:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support – neutral on the use of the "terrorist" term. "... in an attack" works well enough. Juxlos (talk) 03:02, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support altblurb II as it is worded with a NPOV about a significant event. 2402:E000:541:D5B6:0:0:0:1 (talk) 03:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support – and will go with Altblurb II by {{noping|ExclusiveEditor}}. The term "Indian-administered Kashmir" deals better for the region on the ITN, since the status of broader Kashmir region is disputed, "disputed-Jammu and Kashmir, India" causes ambiguity (i.e., dispute within the country (India) or at international level). MŠLQr (talk) 04:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above and go with Altblurb II. IDB.S (talk) 06:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posted It seemed like the preference was for Altburb II, but I also felt that the blurb (all of them really) sounded a bit too passive (general preference for more active voice on ITN) and further didn't make it clear that this was a... non-state attack. I understand not using the term "terrorist", but it didn't seem like there was objection to the term "militants" (which is used repeatedly in the article) and mentioning "tourists" also provides further context. Reader can draw their own conclusions. -- tariqabjotu 06:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support Good shape for a terrorist attack article. ArionStar (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Our own article clearly refers to this as terrorism, because it is, and the reluctance to use the term here is bizarre. The suggestion above that it is "POV" to refer to murder victims as "innocent" is one of the most disturbing things I've ever read. This was an atrocity, in which 26 innocent members of the public were murdered. Call it what it is. Effy Midwinter (talk) 18:58, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Should we add a mention of the diplomatic crisis caused by the attack? User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 23:32, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
• :I second this— but only if the article is kept after the deletion discussion closes. Bremps... 00:02, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Zurab Tsereteli

| recent deaths = yes

| blurb = Georgian-Russian sculptor Zurab Tsereteli dies at the age of 91.

| sources = [https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-georgian-sculptor-tsereteli-known-monumental-projects-dies-91-2025-04-22/ Reuters], [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/22/russian-georgian-tsereteli-sculptor-obit/7b655af4-1f55-11f0-b141-90a412b995ee_story.html The Washington Post]

| updated =

| nominator = Kiril Simeonovski

| updaters =

| nom cmt = He was one of the greatest and most famous sculptors of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. His famous works include Chronicle of Georgia and St. George Statue in Tbilisi, The Tear of Grief in Bayonne, New Jersey, Birth of the New World in Arecibo, Puerto Rico and Birth of a New Man in Seville.

| sign = --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose on quality The article needs a lot of referencing work, there's a lot of information with no source. In its present state it is neither ready for RD nor blurb. 139.164.154.34 (talk) 10:18, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality too much unsourced. Oppose blurb, no indication of how they are a major figure in the world of art / sculpting. Would need discussion of legacy or impact to show this to be the case. Masem (t) 12:18, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as I've orange-tagged the article for a massive lack of citations. Oppose on notability per Masem - there's not a lot to indicate how he was a uniquely famous/notable sculptor to the level we generally reserve for blurbs. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:10, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose blurb He's not getting in the Who's Whos lists. See [https://www.contemporaryartissue.com/the-30-most-important-sculptors-today-you-should-know/ this] and [https://blog.artsper.com/en/a-closer-look/10-contemporary-sculptors-to-know/ this]. Bremps... 18:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose both the RD and the blurb due to ongoing orange tag in article. Scuba 20:10, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::Per below, changing vote to Support RD, Oppose Blurb I just don't see him as blurb-worthy. Scuba 01:59, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:@Bremps, @The Kip, @Scu ba, and @Masem. I have made the article better by adding more sources and removing unsourced info. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:19, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:: Thanks! I changed my vote above! Scuba 01:59, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:::No problem History6042😊 (Contact me) 10:04, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::@SurveyMonkey, I forgot to ping you too. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:19, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::I'd recommend eliminating the awards that do not have an article themselves or where we don't have page about the organization that grants those awards, but otherwise this is ready for RD. Masem (t) 01:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:::@Masem, {{Done}}. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:43, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose – Article has multiple unsourced statements. SurveyMonkey...

{{atop|status={{NAC}}|reason=WP:SNOW, consensus to post will clearly not develop. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:56, 22 April 2025 (UTC)}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = Signalgate

| blurb = A second security breach is found after chief US government officials' Signal group chats discussing confidential military operations in Yemen are shared by Pete Hegseth with his wife, brother, and personal lawyer.

| sources = [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/21/hegseth-second-signal-chat-pentagon The Guardian]

| updated =

| nominator = Abcmaxx

| updaters =

| nom cmt = We somehow did not post the 1st leak, and whilst aware of not waiting writing great wrongs, this is still an unprecedented security breach given the level of people involved. Thearticle is currently being revamped to include this new leak and will likely be renamed to reflect the developing situation.

| sign = Abcmaxx (talk) 07:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose until there are some real consequences (e.g. high government officials resign). After the first and the second leak, there may be third, fourth and so on and so forth. We cannot just post every time this happens.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• :But we risk giving negative false equivalence here. Most administrations would have fired Hegseth by now, however that there are no consequences is a defining feature here. There are no consequences to any of these latest actions and everyone else looks to be powerless to execute anything of note to change that. That doesn't mean the leak itself doesn't have implications because a security breach of this magnitude does have consequences. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:10, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::I don't say this leak doesn't have implications or it's a minor thing. The problem here is that these leaks may become so frequent that we'd have to regularly post them if we set a precedent, and it'd be very difficult to say no if a future leak reveals more notable information than any of the previous leaks. I suggest to wait for a while to see if this continues and then re-nominate it for ongoing.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Zero ramifications came from the first leak, and the only thing happening is potentially the outster of Hegseth, which even if that does happen, will have very little long term impact. Politicians, journalists, and talking heads can talk how big of a problem it is, but until there's actual penalties placed against those that did that, its not a good story for ITN. Masem (t) 12:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose For the same reason I opposed the much bigger first leak story; Trump 2.0 shenanigans are simply much bigger than a single chat leak. Gotitbro (talk) 13:02, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. We already rejected the first leak; this one is getting less media attention. The article treats this new leak as a brief follow-up to the main event. It's clearly incompetent and maybe Hegseth will lose his job, but even if that happened it wouldn't be a big enough deal to merit an ITN blurb. This is domestic politics with lots of debate but no real outcomes. Modest Genius ^talk 13:23, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• :We didnt reject the 1st nomination at all, it actually had consensus to post but came too late and was deemed stale. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::That nomination seems 'no consensus' to me - which is another way of saying ITN/C didn't support it sufficiently to post. Modest Genius ^talk 19:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Oh no! Anyways, no one has resigned. 2001:2020:347:C24D:2C9C:B7FF:FECB:C5C7 (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Short of having an Ongoing which would basically be an "Idiocracy in the USA" ticker, I don't see that we can accommodate the litany of omnishambles emanating from the White House. Black Kite (talk) 14:48, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Ongoing/news ticker-grade development. Call back when there's an actual outcome (resignation, conviction etc). CoatCheck (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Puan Noor Aishah

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/noor-aishah-wife-yusof-ishak-singapore-president-4997266 CNA]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Robertsky

| updaters = ForsythiaJo

| nom cmt = Wife of the first president of Singapore

| sign = – robertsky (talk) 01:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Oppose Technically not a stub, but stringy. Bremps... 02:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose – Article is too short and lacks depth; it does not sufficiently cover the subject's life and impact to support a blurb. SurveyMonkey... SurveyMonkey (talk) 07:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::Nice signature. Bremps... 18:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::{{small|works well with dark mode}} – robertsky (talk) 06:23, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:Note: The article has been expanded by others. – robertsky (talk) 06:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:Support article looks fine now. Scuba 20:10, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Will Hutchins

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/will-hutchins-dead-sugarfoot-1236197846/], [https://deadline.com/2025/04/will-hutchins-dead-1236373841/]

| updated = no

| nominator = Happily888

| updaters = Kelisi

| nom cmt =

| sign = Happily888 (talk) 02:12, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = Hajji Alejandro

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.philstar.com/music/2025/04/22/2437533/opm-legend-hajji-alejandro-dies-cancer Philstar.com]

| updated = yes

| nominator = 240F:7A:6253:1:25DF:E53F:705:D068

| updaters = Borgenland, Raider000

| nom cmt = Filipino singer and actor.

| sign = 240F:7A:6253:1:25DF:E53F:705:D068 (talk) 08:26, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Support looks properly cited. Scuba 20:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Weak support: nom has merits, but it's regretfully stale, eclipsed by the death of the pope. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Gerard Kennedy (actor)

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://tvtonight.com.au/2025/04/vale-gerard-kennedy.html], [https://au.variety.com/2025/tv/news/gerard-kennedy-obituary-21732/]

| updated = no

| nominator = Happily888

| updaters = Kelisi

| nom cmt =

| sign = Happily888 (talk) 03:12, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Soft support article could really use some work, this is bare-bones but what is there is properly cited. Scuba 20:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose Insufficient sourcing of filmography and award sections.—Bagumba (talk) 16:18, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Peter von Matt

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/peter-von-matt-nachruf-ld.1777546 NZZ]

| updated =

| nominator = Grimes2

| updaters = Grimes2

| nom cmt = Swiss philologist, specialist in German studies, and author

| sign = Grimes2 (talk) 18:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Support Whole enough and well-cited enough. Bremps... 23:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Looks decent. Sourced. --BabbaQ (talk) 00:42, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Support sources look fine. Scuba 20:08, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Herbert J. Gans

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/books/herbert-j-gans-dead.html NY Times]

| updated =

| nominator = Thriley

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = Thriley (talk) 06:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose "Studies in news media" section is entirely unsourced. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose orange tag. Scuba 20:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

{{atop|Posted, the specific funeral article can be added when improved. Stephen 23:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = Pope Francis

| image = Portrait_of_Pope_Francis_(2021)_FXD.jpg

| blurb = Pope Francis dies aged 88.

| recent deaths = yes

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-francis-died-cardinal-kevin-075353546.html]

| updated =

| nominator = Twistedaxe

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = TwistedAxe [contact] 08:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Support ITN/R nobrainer for hook. Article adequately updated. Juxlos (talk) 08:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support no need to debate this. ―Panamitsu (talk) 08:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support – Self-evident. Only possible caveat is cause of death probably should be included (both in article and in blurb), but otherwise ready for ITN. ArkHyena (they/any) 08:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Altblurbs are welcome, wrote my blurb in a rush. TwistedAxe [contact] 08:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Also nominating as the featured articles for In The News section, once the wiki is edited WadoodSultan (talk) 08:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support per all above. There's no argument or debate for this. ROY is WAR Talk! 08:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Support: Head of over 1 billion faithful. Prodrummer619 (talk) 08:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work There's a prominent cleanup tag saying that the article has an unclear citation style. That has been there since January and so some cleanup and copy-editing seems needed. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: The unfortunate day has come. Tofusaurus (talk) 08:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Well written and clearly evident for blurbing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: No debate needed. RIP. Pyramids09 (talk) 08:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support It was more worthly deserved a separate article dedicated to death of him. RIP. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 08:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Well said by literally everyone else, no brainer AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 08:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Per above. Importance is given. Ornithoptera (talk) 08:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. A major religious figure and Pope for twelve years. No brainer, as what the guy above said. RealAmericanNixonite (talk) 08:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Death and funeral of Pope Francis now has a standalone article. jlwoodwa (talk) 08:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support The article seems well-written. As mentioned above, it has a yellow tag which should be addressed, but I do not see any talk page discussion detailing what the issue is. As long as the issue is merely grammatical and nothing is unsourced, I am fine with saying it should not hold up posting this major event to ITN. Davey2116 (talk) 08:23, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support ITNR and meets WP:ITNQUALITY (a yellow tag for citation style doesn't stop this being posted). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support EmilySarah99 (talk) 08:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support The head of the largest religion on the glob dying is pretty noteworthy news LukySe7en (talk) 08:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Obviously support The Seal F1 (talk) 08:36, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Comment: I think the citation style tag is due to the three books listed at the bottom of the References section. – robertsky (talk) 08:37, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Support as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support no debate needed JustAnAlbo (talk) 08:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Easy support here Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 08:43, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Per others Centuries123 (talk) 08:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posting. The article is updated, the yellow tag is seen as non problematic. Since there is a separate article on death and funeral, it can be incorporated into the blurb later. Please also take care of the photo. --Tone 08:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Image {{done}}. Black Kite (talk) 09:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Short and simple. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 11:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Comment the article on his death should be linked and probably blurbed

:Kowal2701 (talk) 13:40, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::*The death article has no additional encyclopedic content to the main article (reactions lists are trivial), so doesn't meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support Obviously. ArionStar (talk) 15:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Post posting support rest in peace Holy Father Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::Post-posting support God rest his soul. TenorTwelve (talk) 17:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Post-posting support - nobrainer for posting WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:JD Vance angle: I do not endorse the rumors exploding across the Internet that Vance somehow killed the Pope, whether due to stress or with alien nanobots or the like, but do we want to mention that death came hours after their meeting? Hyperbolick (talk) 17:08, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::No, blurbs are meant to be kept as simple and straightforward as possible (per ITN/A: {{tq|The aim of the blurb is to convey the most pertinent facts in as little space as possible. }}). And adding Vance is unnecessary and UNDUE. Natg 19 (talk) 17:20, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::Of course we don't put that in the headline. But lettuce reconsider it if Vance suffers the same fate as Truss. Nfitz (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::No the visit is irrelevant to a death blurb. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::She was actually Head Honcho, not just a Munchkin? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::The Pope met the Croatian PM last anyway, so I'm not sure why the second-last guy to visit him matters. Bremps... 18:55, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::No, no reason to implicitly make accusations. - RockinJack18 18:57, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:: Not relevant compared to such a monumental death, also WP:NTRUMP and trying to keep an "encylopedic tone" Normalman101 (talk) 19:48, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Death and funeral of Pope Francis is an article now. ArionStar (talk)

Per the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors&oldid=1286946442#Errors_with_%22In_the_news%22 current ITN section of WP:ERRORS], this sub-section is being opened so the community can discuss and assess article quality for a possible blurb target change to Death and funeral of Pope Francis. The relevant change would look like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&diff=prev&oldid=1286862190 this]. Left guide (talk) 00:26, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:I suggested that we add a normal (not bold) link, viz

::Pope Francis (pictured) dies at the {{nowrap|age of 88}}.

:I don't think that requires an ITN/C discussion or understand why it was objected to. It's a minor improvement to the blurb that I still think should be implemented. Modest Genius ^talk 13:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::Generally any significant changes to a blurb should be done via ITNC. Particularly required if a new or different target is proposed. Even if we are just considering adding the death article as a non target link it should be verified that it is okay here. To that end I'm fine with adding the death article as a non target link, but as a target link it doesn't do much now that the main bio article does (it won't be at a state until after the funeral). Masem (t) 13:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• {{yo|Masem|Modest Genius}} Is there at least a consensus to add it as a normal unbolded link? (I personally have no objections to such a change) Masem, as an admin maybe you can do it if you're willing and see consensus for it. Left guide (talk) 02:52, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article about death is fine. Grimes2 14:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• :I agree. Support. ArionStar (talk) 22:51, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• I think it's fine to add it as non-bolded now. Not as the primary link though. Black Kite (talk) 14:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Added to blurb as normal nonfeatured linkMasem (t) 14:56, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

{{abot}}

{{atop|SNOW close. {{nac}} Natg 19 (talk) 21:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = WrestleMania 41

| image = John Cena on the Impaulsive podcast, 2024.png

| blurb = In professional wrestling, John Cena (pictured) is the 17th time champion beating Ric Flair's record in WrestleMania 41.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb = In professional wrestling, John Cena (pictured) defeats Cody Rhodes by pinfall making 17th champion breaking Ric Flair's record in '''WrestleMania 41.

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2025/4/20/24412667/wrestlemania-41-results-john-cena-wins-wwe-championship-cody-rhodes-wrestlemania-41 Cagesideseats] [https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/04/20/john-cena-wwe-title-wrestlemania-41-all-time-record/83185331007/ USA Today] [https://wrestletalk.com/news/john-cena-wwe-championship-wrestlemania-41/ Wrestletalk]

| updated =

| nominator = Royiswariii

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = ROY is WAR Talk! 02:55, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

}}

• There are two tables called "Other on-screen personnel" that are unreferenced. Could that be rectified, please? Schwede66 04:43, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• :@Schwede66, the "Other on-screen personnel" doesn't require reference for that based on the Good Article like WrestleMania XXX. ROY is WAR Talk! 06:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::Surprising, but I shall relax. Schwede66 06:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::Just because other articles don't do things properly doesn't mean it's not necessary here. This won't get posted but needs references if it ever was going to. Stephen 07:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Pro Wrestling is well known to be staged, so I don't know why we'd be playing along with this and saying this or that person "won" anything. It's more like the outcome of a play than a real competition. Harizotoh9 (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on significance per Harizotoh, since it's a staged event not a sporting event where the result was in doubt. Also oppose on quality per the unreferenced tables mentioned by Schwede.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment The most significant real-world aspect of this seems to be that, for the first time, the event was live-streamed on Netflix at no extra charge for international audiences. See the [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62gq8p2mj2o BBC preview] for good detail on the media business implications. Our article says a bit about this but doesn't, for example, say anything about the excessive number of adverts, as the [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy7gyv0d14o BBC report] does. So, it probably won't be posted but that leaves ITN just running a college basketball item from two weeks ago, as if nothing else significant is happening in the US. It's not a good look either way. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:57, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. This is not an athletic competition, but a scripted performance. 331dot (talk) 08:39, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose As much of a fan of pro wrestling as I am, it’s a scripted show - it’d be akin to posting a reality show’s final to ITN. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:00, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

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| article = Hugo Calderano

| image = Calderano em 2021 (cropped).jpg

| blurb = In table tennis, Brazilian player Hugo Calderano (pictured) wins the Table Tennis World Cup men's singles, becoming the first athlete from the Americas to win the competition.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

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| sources = [https://www.ittf.com/2025/04/20/ittf-mens-and-womens-world-cup-macao-2025-final-day-live/ ITTF]

| updated =

| nominator = ArionStar

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Unprecedented title, "breaking the Chinese dominance". Article in good conditions.

| sign = ArionStar (talk) 23:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Please provide references for the section "Clubs". Schwede66 01:28, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment isn't it more usual on ITN to blurb the event, not the winner? Unknown Temptation (talk) 12:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• And as this was a mixed event, that means the women's winner should also be posted. Which further leads me to question if this event is actually in the news, as the source above is the website of the organization that runs the even, not an independent source. Masem (t) 12:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• It's quite easy to search using Google News. My impression is that this mainly covered in Brazilian/Chinese news so sites like Xinhua, South China Morning Post and TV BRICS have it on their English language pages. This indicates that there's considerable systemic bias here. Table tennis is quite a well-known sport but, because it's dominated by non-Anglo nations, it's not in ITN/R. China especially dominates the sport but ITN rarely covers Chinese news. Perhaps the ongoing world events will change this... Andrew🐉(talk) 14:47, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Well there's also the fact the yearly event is hit or miss if there is an article about it, much less one of quality. I did look to see if we have table tennis as an ITNR as it would make sense, but clearly we haven't had anyone sufficiently vested in trying to bring the annual event up to speed. Masem (t) 14:52, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Regardless of significance (which is doubtful), the relevant article would be 2025 Table Tennis World Cup (or 2025 ITTF Men's World Cup), which doesn't exist. Bold links are for the event in question, not the athlete. If no-one has bothered to write an article, we cannot even consider this for ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 11:52, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Why would significance be doubtful here? Abcmaxx (talk) 12:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Ping-pong isn't in the WP:ITNR. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• :If articles were of significant quality and posted regularly then it would be. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Routine events not listed at ITNR can be made as regular ITNC, and that's often a route for bringing a routine event into ITNR if its shown to be posted multiple times in a row as an ITNC. Masem (t) 12:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support notability but Oppose on quality. Being a world champion in an Olympic sport that has a huge worldwide player participation, especially so in several countries where it is widely played, and is the de facto national sport of the world's most populous nation state, certainly merits posting. However, as in other sports articles, 2025 Table Tennis World Cup should be the target, and this is a huge shame as Calderano's win is a seismic upset of the biggest proportions. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose due to aforementioned target article not existing. Scuba 20:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

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