When in Rome (band)#Breakup
{{Short description|English synth-pop/new wave group}}
{{About|the English band||When in Rome (disambiguation){{!}}When in Rome}}
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{{Infobox musical artist
| name = When in Rome
| image = File:When in Rome 1985.jpg
| caption = When in Rome in 1987 (from left to right): Clive Farrington, Andrew Mann and Michael Floreale.
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| background = group_or_band
| alias =
| origin = Manchester, England
| genre = {{hlist|Synth-pop|new wave{{cite web|first= Erik |last= Hage |title= When in Rome – Artist Biography |publisher= AllMusic. All Media Network |access-date= 27 April 2016 |url= http://www.allmusic.com/artist/when-in-rome-mn0000247250/biography}}}}
| years_active = 1987–1990
| label = 10 Records/Virgin
Spectra Records
August Day Recordings
| website = {{URL|https://www.farrington-mann.com/}}
| current_members = When in Rome II
Michael Floreale
Tony Fennell
Chris Willett
Jack Ivins
When in Rome UK
Clive Farrington
Andrew Mann
Rob Juarez
| past_members = Andy O'Connell
John Ceravolo
}}
When in Rome are an English synth-pop/new wave group, which originally consisted of vocalists Clive Farrington and Andrew Mann, and keyboardist Michael Floreale. They are best known for their 1988 single "The Promise", which was their only top 40 hit on the Billboard Hot 100 in the US. As of July 2012, there were two bands using the When in Rome name, although the original lineup has been disbanded since 1990.{{cite news |url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/13/when-rome-original-lead-singer-clive-farrington-di/ |title=When in Rome's Clive Farrington 'fires back' |author=Valcourt, Keith |work=The Washington Times |date=13 March 2016 |access-date=13 August 2017}}{{cite web |url=http://citizensvoice.com/arts-living/singer-clive-farrington-shares-humble-beginnings-of-when-in-rome-uk-1.1345227 |title=Singer Clive Farrington shares humble beginnings of When in Rome UK |author=Gaydos, Kristen |publisher=The Citizens' Voice |date=19 June 2012 |access-date=14 August 2017}}{{cite web |url=https://www.pollstar.com/article/when-in-rome-name-dispute-19967 |title=When in Rome Name Dispute |author=Amendola, Tina |publisher=Pollstar |date=27 May 2011 |access-date=14 August 2017}}
History
=Formation=
Michael Floreale and Andy O'Connell were recruited by Clive Farrington to replace departed members of his Manchester-based group Beau Leisure.{{cn|date=March 2025}} Floreale and Farrington began to write songs together. Later, Farrington and Floreale saw Andrew Mann, a beat poet, and had him join their performances.{{cite web|url=http://oldschool.tblog.com/post/1970110112 |title=Back to the 80s: Interview with Michael Floreale & Clive Farrington of When in Rome|publisher=Kickin' it Old School|date=10 February 2011}} O'Connell left the group; the remaining trio recorded some demos – sometimes including Mann's friend Corinne Drewery of Swing Out Sister – while seeking a recording deal. Farrington and Floreale came up with the band name after using the famous proverb to note the cultural differences between Manchester and London. The band was signed to Elektra Records for a month before the label closed its London office, forcing the band to leave due to the time difference with the U.S.{{cite web |url=http://crypticrock.com/interview-clive-farrington-rome-uk/ |title=Interview – Clive Farrington of When in Rome UK |publisher=Cryptic Rock |date=26 May 2017 |access-date=19 August 2017}}
=Debut album=
The band was signed to Virgin UK subsidiary 10 Records, and their self-titled debut album was released on 3 May 1988. Producers Ben Rogan (who had worked with Sade) and Richard James Burgess took special interest in the trio's song "The Promise", issued first as a 12" dance disc. When the song became popular, hitting the top of Billboard{{'}}s Dance Club Play chart, Virgin ordered an album. A remixed version of "The Promise" was the album's first single. It was an instant success, barely missing the top ten in the United States, peaking at No. 11.{{cite web |url=https://www.professorofrock.com/the-promise-by-when-in-rome/ |title=The Promise by When in Rome |website=Professor of Rock |access-date=2 June 2019}} Months later, the trio reached Billboard{{'}}s pop chart's lower reaches for the last time with "Heaven Knows" (No. 95, 1990). Additional singles did little on the charts, and the group ultimately faded away.
=Breakup, reformation, and legal issues=
In 1990, Floreale was fired by Farrington and Mann over creative differences and When in Rome disbanded shortly after Virgin Records dropped them in 1993. Floreale moved to the United States, and now lives in Dallas, Texas, where he composes music for television and film.[http://www.lasysinc.com/Pop_Music/British_Pop_Music/JAYDEN_FROST_WHEN_IN_ROME_Blue.html L.A.S.Y.S. Inc.] Artist Summary: Jayden Frost. Frost's album Blue was produced by Floreale. Tensions arose between the members again in 2003, when "The Promise" was used in the 2004 film Napoleon Dynamite and Floreale made sole claim to the song, despite the trio receiving equal royalties.
Floreale reformed the band in 2006 with vocalist and guitarist John Ceravolo under the name "When in Rome II".{{cite news |url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/10/when-rome-ii-revives-promise-hit-revitalized-band/ |title=When in Rome II: 'Keeping the Promise' |author=Valcourt, Keith |work=The Washington Times |date=10 February 2016 |access-date=13 August 2017}} Since then, the band has toured the United States and South America with various other 1980s groups.{{cite web | author=Jacquelyn Carberry | title=Musical memories: It's time for the 1980s to get the nostalgia treatment with the Lost '80s Live tour | url=http://archives.starbulletin.com/2007/09/21/features/story03.html | publisher=Honolulu Star Bulletin | date=21 September 2007 | access-date=11 April 2009 }} Farrington and Mann reformed in 2009, under the name "When in Rome UK".[http://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/archive/showartefact.php?bid=1078 Manchester Direct Music Archive:] When in Rome (submitted by Clive Farrington) Floreale, however, had trademarked the name "When in Rome" in 2010, which was unsuccessfully challenged by Farrington and Mann. According to a Pollstar article in May 2011, the US trademark has been acknowledged: "In order to comply with the legal claim, the UK members, are billed as "Clive Farrington and Andrew Mann formerly of When in Rome" for U.S. gigs. In addition, Floreale filed an infringement claim against Rob Juarez, an associate of Farrington and Mann who attempted to trademark his tribute band name "When in Rome Revisited".
=Present day=
On 10 May 2016, Farrington, with Pat Flanagan, published his autobiography Confessions of a One Hit Wonder: "The Promise" ... And the Aftermath.
As of 2019, When in Rome UK performs in the U.S. as "Farrington+Mann Original Members of When in Rome UK".{{cite web |url=https://lost80slive.com/artist/clive-farrington-original-vocals-rome/ |title=Farrington + Mann Original Members of When in Rome UK |website=Lost 80s Live! |access-date=2 June 2019}}
In 2019, When In Rome II reformed with former Ultravox singer and Enuff Z'Nuff guitarist, Tony Fennell.{{Cite web |title=BIO |url=https://www.wheninrome2.com/bio |access-date=2022-05-24 |website=When In Rome II |language=en}}{{Cite web |title=Totally '80s Live |url=https://www.qromag.com/totally-80s-live/ |access-date=2022-05-24 |website=QRO Magazine |language=en-US}}
In 2020, Farrington+Mann, in collaboration with the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra and Slovenia Symphonic Film Orchestra, released a 30th anniversary orchestral edition of their hit song "The Promise" on both CD and vinyl.{{cite web |title=ADAY062 Farrington And Mann "The Promise" |url=http://www.augustday.net/aday062.html |website=August Day |access-date=17 April 2020}}
Members
=Original line-up (1987–1990)=
- Clive Farrington – vocals
- Andrew Mann – vocals
- Michael Floreale – keyboards
=When in Rome II (2006–present)=
- Michael Floreale – keyboards
- Tony Fennell – vocals, guitar
- Chris Willett – drums
- Jack Ivins - drums
=When in Rome UK (2009–present)=
- Clive Farrington – vocals
- Andrew Mann – vocals
- Rob Juarez – drums
Discography
=Studio albums=
=Singles=
| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" |
| rowspan="2"| Year
! rowspan="2"| Single ! colspan="3"| Peak chart positions ! rowspan="2"| Album |
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| style="font-size:smaller;"
! style="width:35px;"| UK ! style="width:35px;"| US ! style="width:35px;"| US |
| 1988
| style="text-align:left;"| "The Promise" | 58 | 11 | 1 | style="text-align:left;" rowspan="4"| When in Rome |
| rowspan=2| 1989
| style="text-align:left;"| "Heaven Knows" | — | 95 | 14 |
| style="text-align:left;"| "Everything"
| — | — | — |
| 1990
| style="text-align:left;"| "Sight of Your Tears" | — | — | 40 |
| 2020
| style="text-align:left;"| "The Promise (Orchestral Version)" | — | — | — | style="text-align:left;" rowspan="1"| Non-album single |
| colspan="15" style="font-size:8pt"| "—" denotes releases that did not chart |
See also
References
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External links
- {{Official website|http://wheninrome2.com/}} (When in Rome II)
- {{Facebook|wirofficial|When in Rome II}}
- {{Facebook|farringtonandmanntheoriginalwheninromeuk|When in Rome UK}}
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Category:English new wave musical groups
Category:English synth-pop new wave groups
Category:English musical trios
Category:Musical groups from Manchester
Category:Musical groups established in 1987
Category:Musical groups disestablished in 1990
Category:Musical groups reestablished in 2006
Category:Musical groups reestablished in 2009