Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1114 AH

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Stub that is redundant of 1702/1703. The entire scheme at :Category:Years AH seems completely useless to me, so I'm nominating this article to get feedback on that as well--if other users agree that these articles are not useful, then I will nominate them wholesale for deletion. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:11, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
• Rewrite all calendrical systems currently in use should have year articles that direct people to pages under the CE (Gregorian) system where information can be found. It would also help people looking up dates under the AH (or other) system(s) if they don't know the conversion formula. So this article should explain the equivalent period under the CE calendar. 65.93.12.65 (talk) 06:07, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
• It should have the start date and end date in Gregorian, with the Gregorian years' start and end dates also in AH, and the Gregorian new year in AH as well, to inform people of which article they are looking for. 65.93.12.65 (talk) 06:09, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
• Comment. How can this information be claimed to be "completely useless"? As someone who uses the Gregorian calendar I find the content of such articles very useful encyclopedic information, which tells be what year is being referred to when I encounter a different calendar. I agree with the IP editor above that the articles would be even better if they had precise start and end date conversions. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:54, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

• Keep If we are going to have articles for each year in the Gregorian calendar I can not think of a reason not to have the same in the Islamic calendar. The information might be useful to someone. Borock (talk) 10:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

:*Response They will just reiterate what's at the Gregorian articles. Why would we have identical articles for different calendar systems? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:46, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

::If I give you a year in AH, can you tell me the article under Gregorian it is for (without looking up a conversion formula, just do it in your head from personal knowledge)? If not, then clearly there is a need for a navigation page. 65.94.45.209 (talk) 12:59, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

:::A navigation page, maybe 2-3000 no, I think not. Rich Farmbrough, 17:07, 1 January 2011 (UTC).

• Delete (or re-purpose), this is a worthy idea, but duplicating births/deaths/events for years in different calenders is currently a non starter. I was about to reluctantly AfD this scheme when I happened across this AfD. The article at AH should cover exact conversions. Rich Farmbrough, 17:07, 1 January 2011 (UTC).
  

:*If a reader comes across a mention of the year 1114 AH, and, not knowing what it means, decides to look it up in an encyclopedia, then what do you think should be the result? Surely it's better to tell that reader what Gregorian years this corresponds to rather than to present a page with an invitation to create an article, which is what will happen if this is deleted. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:15, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

::*Then these should be redirected to a conversion page. Reywas92^Talk 03:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• Strong delete (or maybe redirect to a conversion page), and all other AH year and century pages should be as well. There is no reason to duplicate the information concerning calendars. Reywas92^Talk 03:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Delete There is no encyclopedic reason to have a separate page for every possible unit of measure conversion on a numeric scale. If there is a reason that this particular time period is of importance, then YES by all means (say, something of significance about the time period 1114 AH). But I don't see that in the article.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
• Strong delete. Pointless since the Gregorian year articles already have the equivalents listed. But we should consider creating a redirect for the different years pointing to the equivalent Gregorian year for convenience. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 22:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

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