Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1854 in animation

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Nothing really happened in 1854 in relation to animation. The two listed events are war photography and early (but not the first) instanteneous photographs, leaving us with two births, of someone who was much later influential on animation through his cartoons, and someone who is known as an actress but was one of many people with a magic lantern show. None of this makes 1854 an in any way notable year for animation. Fram (talk) 14:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation and History. Fram (talk) 14:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

• Considering the similar lack of notability for the events in e.g. the year 1856 in animation, it may be better to create something like 1850s in animation for these early decades. Fram (talk) 14:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose: The year pages are for developments in relevant fields, not "the first" or claims of the first. Both the events cited are developments in the History of film technology. Dimadick (talk) 14:35, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
• Which might make them fine entries for 1854 in film technology. Fram (talk) 14:47, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
• A category tree which we do not have. Dimadick (talk) 15:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
• And? How is that a reason to keep an article from a different article tree? The link between e.g. Roger Fenton and his war photography, and animation on the other hand, seems very tenuous at best. Fram (talk) 15:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Blatant WP:SYNTH. Four events are listed, two photographic firsts (neither of which is directly related to animation, except maybe in the article creator's head) and two births, only one of whom would (much later) be involved in animation. None of the sources cited that I can access mention animation. Nothing I can find in a general web search mentions both 1854 and animation, except for animations of the number 1854 and animated retellings of events in 1854. Simply put, animation as we now know it did not exist in 1854, and this article is misinformation. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
• See Early history of animation and developments since 1825. Dimadick (talk) 09:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to List of years in animation: where the only relevant event is already covered. Owen× ☎ 18:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Relisting so that we might get to a firmer consensus. There is an unbolded Oppose opinion here which translates to a Keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: I don't see what war photography has to do with animation... The rest are tenuous at best. Oaktree b (talk) 20:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to List of years in animation. As said above, the only relevant event is already covered there. --Brocade River Poems (She/They) 01:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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