Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1984 Midwest pipe bombings

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I am typically loathe to delete articles, but there is simply nothing to be said on this. If I was to expand this article with all the information available on it, I could get maybe one or two more paragraphs. I wish there was more coverage, as the little information we do have is deeply bizarre, but there isn't.

Here is what a WP:BEFORE check turned up:

• [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Drowning_In_A_Sea_Of_Marijuana/UQ4DDAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Earl+Steven+Karr&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover a mention in a lulu.com published book about weed] (??)
• [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Department_of_the_Treasury/Qla2AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Earl+Steven+Karr&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover two brief mentions] [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Treasury_Postal_Service_and_General_Gove/TVtKAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Earl+Steven+Karr&pg=PA591&printsec=frontcover in department of treasury legal documents]
• [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Leatherman/NuxT6dPRfJYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Earl+Steven+Karr&pg=PA310&printsec=frontcover 1 sentence in a book by a reliable (?) author]
• numerous news articles, but all date from the immediate aftermath or him being sentenced - no further (or any) analysis, remarks about the general situation, or any sort of commentary beyond dry facts. if he died in prison or was released it was never remarked upon so the story cannot be "completed"

And even besides the dubious notability there is simply not enough information to write a full article. An insane man placed a bunch of bombs and then got put in prison. I'd suggest what little information exists be merged somewhere but there's really nowhere to put it.

PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:56, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Terrorism, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
• Delete: Gnewspapers basically has what's already stated here; the guy made 20 pipe bombs, they looked for him, found him, put him on trial and was found guilty. [https://books.google.ca/books?id=LotaAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA4&dq=1984%20Midwest%20pipe%20bombings&pg=PA4#v=onepage&q=1984%20Midwest%20pipe%20bombings&f=false]. I suppose we could flesh out the article a bit more, but it doesn't seem to have had much lasting notice. Coverage is only from 1984 and into 1985 that I can see. Just a guy doing nasty stuff that people seem to have forgotten about. Oaktree b (talk) 21:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
• Redirect to Terrorism in the United States#Left-wing and anti-government extremism per WP:ATD-R. I added a mention of the bombings there. A sub-obtimal choice would be to keep and rename this Earl Steven Karr, since more sources [https://www.proquest.com/docview/418505836/C96348B59F8E46BEPQ/4?accountid=196403 exist] about him outside of the bombings, but the bombings themselves seem more notable in the long run. StonyBrook _babble 05:28, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
• :I like the idea to merge and then redirect better than the proposal to delete. BTW the article was actually originally made (not by me, by an IP editor) as an article on Karr. My bad for not finding the thing on ProQuest - I assumed whatever I could have found on him would have turned up when I searched on the Wikipedia library but I guess not :/ PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:34, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
• :Apparently the guy Karr tried to murder has an article. I still don't think this is enough for notability but, huh. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:40, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
• ::I wonder what {{u|Drewmutt}}, the editor who moved the title, would say about the prison source (he seems to be away). In any case, the prison info could theoretically be added to Christopher John Boyce even if Earl Steven Karr's content is redirected to the Terrorism article. In any case, per WP:MERGEREASON #3, this article seems a bit too short (as it stands now) to stand alone. But I am still willing to consider renaming as a second option. StonyBrook _babble 06:06, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
• :::I think that's a good idea. A prison attack is already mentioned in the article (though I am unsure if it is the same one?) so a short sentence elaborating would not be out of place. The article's content being redirected to the terror article is a satisfactory solution. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Active discussion about merging or renaming without consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:13, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

::Comment !redirect as mentioned is ok too if we decide to go that way. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

• *Redirect per StonyBrook - agree no enduring notability. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

• Redirect to Terrorism in the United States. As terrible as this was, and there have been many around the world, this one is small-time compared to incidents like Oklahoma City bombing or Boston Marathon bombing. — Maile (talk) 14:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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