Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2009 French helicopter crash

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Wikipedia is not a newsite and it unlikely this crash will have any lasting encyclopedic value. ThaddeusB (talk) 23:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

• Comment helicopter crashes are probably commonplace enough that there wouldn't be just one a year in France. I know too little about this one to give any more info about it, but the title should probably be more specific. Sebwite (talk) 00:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete. WP:NOTNEWS. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 03:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Weak keep Seven deaths is a major aircraft incident. But this is a new story, and there should be some more information forthcoming. I would waited for better accounts before writing the article, abut once written, I would wait for them before nominating it for deletion. DGG (talk) 04:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Keep All aviation accidents are notable. Lugnuts (talk) 05:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

:On what basis? There are literally hundreds, perhaps even thousands, of crash a year. --ThaddeusB (talk) 07:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

::With seven (or more) deaths? Look at these articles for more: one, two, three, etc. Lugnuts (talk) 07:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

• Delete. In its present form this is a news article. If it can be expanded to an encyclopaedia article I'll reconsider, but nothing I've seen suggests it's likely. Thryduulf (talk) 11:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. —Thryduulf (talk) 11:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete Every crash is notable to someone, but not all aviation accidents merit their own article. Unfortunately, helicopters crash more often than scheduled airline flights and happen several times a month [http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q="helicopter+crash"|June 2009 news stories]. This is a symptom of someone wanting to be the very first to write an article about something that they have seen on the news, and Wikipedia is not the news. Mandsford (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete tragedy ≠ notability, per nom and Mandsford says is so well. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 07:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete unless it can be demonstrated that the article meets WP:AIRCRASH. Having looked at the article there is nothing to show that it does. Mjroots (talk) 17:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:AIRCRASH, and for lack of multiple, independent sources providing in-depth coverage of the event beyond a single news cycle. - Biruitorul ^Talk 21:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete Recentism and, alas, routine. Dahn (talk) 00:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:::we should add the older ones also. As for routine, we have no space limits. DGG (talk) 03:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:AIRCRASH and WP:NOTNEWS. --Born2flie (talk) 13:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete as last user said. Most are NN. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
• Weak Delete or Transwiki. While this is a major accident, it might be more suitable for Wikinews if necessary as Wikipedia itself it is not CNN or MSNBC (or should I say WP:NOTNEWS. JForget 00:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
• Neutral Usually if there is a fatalities for an aircrash, it is a notable event and I'm likely to vote keep. Although there are deaths, I just don't see anything special or out of the ordinary besides the plain fact that there were deaths (such as follow-up reports, safty concerns, detailed searches, etc.) So I'm on the fence, I could see this going any way. 15:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tavix (talk • contribs)

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