Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/82 Hudson

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 00:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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Non-notable bus line. DonaldDuck (talk) 08:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 10:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 10:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Delete. Bus routes are not inherently notable, and the only source that has been provided is the bus schedule, which establishes only the route's existence, not its notability. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Delete for the reasons Metro said, there doesn't appear to be a viable merge target. StarM 20:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
List of New Jersey Transit bus routes (1-99)#82 would be a merge target (note the history column at right). --NE2 06:59, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Keep. The prior history of this line as trolley service needs to be expanded, but provides the notability. Books like [http://books.google.com/books?id=Be5fjmQXCEcC this one on the history of Jersey City] show that the electric trolley services that existed from the late-1800's to the mid-1900's were important factors in local history, shaping the development of the community. - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 03:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 00:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep as Wikipedia is "timeless", and thus something that was once a trolley route would be as important as a current trolley route. It may belong as part of a larger article about the Public Service Railway in Hudson County, for which the book "The Public Service Trolley Lines in New Jersey" would be useful. --NE2 06:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Delete -- WE do not need articles on bus-routes. I am not sure that we even leave lists of them. While in some places bus routes nay be stable over long periods, they are liable to change with little notice. Bus operators will maintain theri own websites but will not do so for WP. Such articles are essentially unmaintainable. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
That's why we write them from a historical perspective. --NE2 00:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.