Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A2P assault rifle

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Evidence that this is a WP:HOAX and appears to have been created as part of a sockfarm's products - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ctway. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:53, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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DePRODded. Fails WP:GNG - could not find WP:RS. Someone might need to check for Russian sources, but to me just seems like an experimental prototype that never went into production. Ansh666 23:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:52, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 19:55, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Delete. Based on the picture it's a pretty close clone of an AK-47. At best it could be mentioned in the main article as a derivative, assuming a reliable source could be found. 86.121.18.17 (talk) 20:44, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Delete. Does not meet Wiki notability requirements. The main source of information on the internet for this firearm seems to be Wikipedia itself or a Wiki mirror.--RAF910 (talk) 15:02, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone 00:48, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I've checked the extensive book {{cite book|last=Monetchikov|first=Sergei|title=История русского автомата|trans-title=The History of Russian Assault Rifle|year=2005|publisher=Military Historical Museum of Artillery, Engineers and Signal Corps|location=St. Petersburg|isbn=5-98655-006-4|language=Russian}}, which has something like 50 designs by Kalashnikov alone in it, but this A2P (А2П) is not in there. The naming scheme is somewhat consistent with Kalashnikov's designs, e.g. there was a A-3, and A-55, and an A-017 by Kalashnikov. But this A2P is either totally obscure or bogus. The claim that Kalashnikov made a blowback gun makes me think the latter is the case. Someone not using his real name (talk) 22:13, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I think I figured out what happened. This article was first created as 40-P, but for unclear reasons the author then pasted the whole info in this page and redirected. He was probably influenced by that Russian forum pic, but that seems bogus. There was actually a gas operated assault rifle called 40-P (40-П) designed by Kalashnikov in 1965 and in the unusual 5.6 mm caliber. But it's not the one in this picture. Anyway, the 40-P was a precursor of the AK-74 (in 5.45 mm). The info in this article is so bogus and useless that it should be deleted. This article is part of a batch created by problematic editor(s); see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Uayoa. Someone not using his real name (talk) 22:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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