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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Stark

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

=[[Aaron Stark]]=

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On notability grounds - has not fought in top tier fights Peter Rehse (talk) 10:41, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:41, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

::The IFL is/was not top tier so fighting for its championship does not meet WP:NMMA. Jakejr (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

:::In all due respect, WP:NMMA provides a guide for a presumption of notability. Even if Stark does not reach that presumption, he still easily meets WP:GNG, not only for the Sports Illustrated article mentioned below, but as one of a very small minority of all professional MMA fighters to have fought numerous times on broadcast (not cable or "pay-per-view") television. Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:11, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete - While Stark did receive some non-trivial national media coverage from Spots Illustrated, that was the one and only example I could find that would support a keep based on WP:GNG. His collegiate wrestling career isn't enough to pass WP:NCOLLATH and his MMA career falls short or WP:NMMA. Luchuslu (talk) 01:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete Obviously doesn't meet WP:NMMA and one article at the SI website is not enough to show he meets WP:GNG. Willing to reconsider if additional significant (not routine sports) coverage can be found. Jakejr (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete - Fails WP:NMMA. LlamaAl (talk) 21:47, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
  • {{comment}} I searched the local paper of record's archives (offline/paywalled) and found that Stark was prominently discussed in this article: {{cite news|title=Comedy or tragedy?|work=The Oregonian|date=June 23, 2008|first=Ryan|last=White}} By itself, this one may or may not help the article clear the WP:GNG threshold, but it's certainly a point worth considering. -Pete (talk) 22:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

:: He's also the central focus of this article: {{cite news|title= Pro fight league is a hit -- and it's coming here|work=The Daily Herald|date=June 1, 2007|first=John|last=Boyle}}

:: So I think if somebody wanted to keep the article, they could easily expand it citing these references. I'm too busy to do that myself, but I'd be happy to email these stories to another editor if they wish to improve the article.

  • Comment - I cleaned up the page a bit and removed all the dead links (most of them were dead in fact). I gave an explanation for each removal in the edit summary if one was needed. The IFL website has been dead for years, many of the interviews were redirects and the citation for his college degree had nothing to do with Stark. It was simply a list of all the degrees offered in the 2013-14 school year at Wisconsin. But if the stories mentioned by Pete provide significant coverage, I will most likely change my vote based on WP:GNG. Luchuslu (talk) 17:48, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

::I'd requested Pete provide me the stories in some fashion so that I might add them to the article for consideration, but he is, understandably, a busy man. Buddy23Lee (talk) 23:19, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

::: My apologies: I will send those by email in the next hour or so. -Pete (talk) 01:16, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete Clearly fails WP:NMMA. I don't think coverage in a local paper enables him to pass GNG. As it says in WP:MMANOT--"articles should be from national or international media, not just local coverage or press releases from organizations".Mdtemp (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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