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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abrams Artists Agency

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 22:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

=[[Abrams Artists Agency]]=

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Unable to find any in-depth coverage of this agency. Bongomatic 02:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep - The Agency is old and has found out several notable artists, but the article is not well written and not properly sourced, if someone inside it could give us some guidance, but respecting WP:NPOV the article could be really relevant. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 04:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Delete - what is needed is sources, which are very scarce and difficult to find, implying a lack of notability. --bonadea contributions talk 22:41, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep. It is an important talent agency, we do have articles about the other comparable ones, and there is ample coverage of the agency in the industry trade publications (behind pay walls, mostly, but it's there).--Arxiloxos (talk) 23:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

::References needn't be available online to verify claims or to demonstrate notability. So please provide them. Note that "A was signed by agency X" or "said B, an agent at agency X" are not demonstrative of the notability of agency X. Bongomatic 23:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:31, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

::Found references to their clients and agents winning awards in all departments, but no mention of agency awards listed in similar articles, only line mentions in lists of donors. Dru of Id (talk) 06:44, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep Don't know much about Hollywood, but I've heard of this agency. Sources on such a subject are understandably scarce, but it appears to meet WP:N Brumak (talk) 07:01, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete- Notability is not a gauge of their success in advertising themselves or how well placed their offices are for people to drive by, both of which contribute to "I've heard of them." As yet non-notable company of award-winning agents who represent famous people, any number of whom may have (edit) entries. Unless and until the company wins major company awards in their field and receives sufficient coverage in independent third-party reliable sources, or Wikipedia guidelines change, fails WP:N & WP:GNG. Dru of Id (talk) 01:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete Abrams Artists Agency fails GNG because no third-party, reliable sources provide significant coverage of the agency. Goodvac (talk) 04:32, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete. Agreed, I can't find sources providing significant coverage. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete Google news search pulls up nothing useful. Google regular results come up with just as little. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:39, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.