Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aer Lingus Flight 328

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Not notable incident. At most this deserves is a mention in a airport or airline article. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:28, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:29, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:29, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:29, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Keep - Hull loss, only 2nd of that aircraft type. A lack of fatalities does not equate to a lack of notability. Mjroots (talk) 19:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment As I have pointed out before, WP has only about half the hull losses of much more significant aircraft like 727s and DC9s with articles. In fact articles have been deleted that are hull losses. For the Short360, exactly 2 out of 16 hull losses have articles. The first Short hull loss don't have an article. What is notable about this one from the thousands of other hull losses?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

::::If air-crash articles are being wrongly deleted (and they are, as we saw with the recent discussion about Korean Air Flight 2708) then this is something to discuss outside of this AFD. Otherwise, WP:WAX FOARP (talk) 21:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

:::::Au Contraire, I would say that Korean Air Flight 2708 was wrongly saved from deletion--Petebutt (talk) 00:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Delete. Despite being an early hull loss for this type of aircraft, it appears to fail WP:EVENT, especially WP:PERSISTENCE. I found two wire service articles at the time of the crash. A later article mentions the crash in a list of incidents related to turboprop safety. [https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20141105004611/http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/6-1987%20EI-BEM.pdf|The official accident report] had three recommendations, but I haven't found evidence they came to anything. • Gene93k (talk) 20:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak Delete A hull-loss is a clear keep. Like • Gene93k, though, I've had a hard time finding sources indicating notability, and without that this fails WP:GNG.FOARP (talk) 21:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Delete: Despite the hull loss there is very little notability in this accident. If proof of significant changes to aircraft design maintenance or operations can be directly attributed to this incident then there would be a case for keeping it.--Petebutt (talk) 15:03, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Delete. AIRCRASH is but an essay, and this fairly small (or medium-small) civil aircraft (36 seats, 12,292 kg MTOW) is in the grey zone of the essay. Per [https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19860131-1 ASN] this was indeed "Damaged beyond repair", but also that "The cockpit and passenger cabin were relatively undamaged and there was no fire". What is lacking here - is WP:SIGCOV, and given the circumstances of the crash it seems likely to believe that it simply isn't there. Icewhiz (talk) 07:08, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Delete I found significant coverage in newspaper archives on 1 February 1986, but per WP:EVENT there is no enduring coverage beyond an immediate recounting of the event, no analysis. If enduring coverage is found or the article is otherwise kept, ping me and I will add these sources.--Pontificalibus 07:56, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:EVENT. No enduring notability.Charles (talk) 10:32, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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