Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aidan Comerford
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:50, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
=[[:Aidan Comerford]]=
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- "Aidan Comerford": ({{Find sources AFD|title=Aidan Comerford}})
- "Aidan Strangeman": ({{find sources|Aidan Strangeman}})
This subject is a former performer whose coverage whilst active does not meet WP:GNG or WP:COMEDIAN. Sourcing currently includes listing among many others in two editions of a guide whose content was mostly written by the subject; interviews (which are also primary/WP:BLPSPS); tweets; and scant mention. JFHJr (㊟) 20:54, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Ireland. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:14, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
:Interviews may be equivalent to WP:BLPSPS for their usability for facts; however, the question here is notability, and the fact that the Irish Independent asked the comedian to talk about himself as a subject is an indicator of notability, that he is a topic that a reliable source deems worth covering. It is not in itself enough to get this article past our notability guidelines, but it does give a push in that direction. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 16:39, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:* Weak delete - I did a newspaper.com search and it had nothing worth adding. (However, I will note the existence of [https://www.joe.ie/life-style/joe-talks-to-irish-comedian-aidan-strangeman-after-he-won-the-so-you-think-youre-funny-crown-at-the-edinburgh-fringe-457573 this online reference], which can at least be a source to confirm that Comerford is Strangeman, which may be a vital piece of information for securing points that add up to notability.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 16:52, 3 September 2023 (UTC) -- Weakening my delete stance due to [https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/battle-of-the-boyne-ends-with-novelist-thankful-for-aidan-comerford-apology-hc95lvzsc this source]. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 17:11, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*:Thank you for finding this. The coverage is principally about this subject's apology for repeatedly calling another living person transphobic (BLP applies to that person in this article, too). Having it as a source for a BLP seems problematic to me. But other minds may differ and that's okay. I added it to the article without using it to support any prose. JFHJr (㊟) 18:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*::The reference is one that had been in the article already in recent months. That the subject had been involved in contretemps that reached a level of public court coverage seems worthy of inclusion, even if we limit it to his confession of relentlessly harassing an author and his retracting statements, and choose to sidestep just what he was saying and perhaps even whom he was saying it about. But even if we don't include it, it can be of use for evaluating notability. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 19:27, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*:::How does that event square with WP:BLP1E? Not to pile on just after my see-you-next-Tuesday (ha). But your thoughts are appreciated when you've got time and device. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 19:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*::::If that were the only thing we had on him, yes, that would be WP:BLP1E. But he won a non-trivial comedy competition, the Irish Independent material predates that incident (or at least the coverage of it), so I don't see that this event is the one event or even the first event toward notability. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*:Does the first ref you linked have a date? I'm not on a desktop this weekend, so I have trouble seeing the raw page data. All I get is "9 years ago." Otherwise I'd be happy to add it to support the stage name in the lede. JFHJr (㊟) 18:47, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*::As we have an existing source which says he won the 2014 festival on 21 August, and this refers to it happening last night, that dates it to 22 August 2014. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 19:12, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*:::Well the date of the publication can be corrected later, not a big deal. If you want to make the addition now, go for it. I'd bold the stage name, too. I'll either verify or correct or add it on Tuesday when I'm back at a proper helm. JFHJr (㊟) 19:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*::::I am a) trying to avoid article editing in general and b) working from a phone at the moment, so I leave it in your hands. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
:*:::::Same. Phone. Then for this discussion, until Tuesday, friend. Thanks again. JFHJr (㊟) 19:45, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:17, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Current refs are weak. Adding to them I found [https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/battling-back-to-have-the-last-laugh/36225310.html][https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/battle-of-the-boyne-ends-with-novelist-thankful-for-aidan-comerford-apology-hc95lvzsc], but I don't think they strengthen the case enough. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:41, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete: It appears he's performed a lot, and won at least one notable award, but I haven't been able to turn up any SIGCOV of him. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:18, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
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