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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aindrila Sharma

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I found the comments of editors arguing that there is a lack of WP:SIGCOV more persuasive than those advocating Keeping the article. Liz Read! Talk! 03:22, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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This article fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. She is covered on her death but there is no other WP:SIGCOV. ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 15:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi All. She has television shows and movies in Bengali,being a major regional language to her credit. There are many actors not with much notable contributions who has articles in Wikipedia. I feel she really deserve a space in Wikipedia due to her contribution in Bengali cinema and as a figher to a major disease. However will respect the decision of majority. Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 15:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

@Gardenkur, we all know that she needs that kind of space but the article is only with her death references. I think it would be greater if infobox and her birth or works related references would be added. Then, the article may be applicable. 卂卄卩talk 15:52, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Gardenkur}}, Thanks for your comment. Well, she might have contributed to Bengali cinema or anything else. But Wikipedia works on policies. Currently, when I searched on Google, I didn't find any reliable articles other than her death coverage. We respect artists, but an article or page on Wikipedia can be stable if there is significant coverage as per WP:SIGCOV. As you said, there are her contributions to cinema. If you can find reliable news sources on her other than her death coverage, you are welcome to add them to the Wikipedia page about her and then comment here. If policies like WP:NACTOR get satisfied, this article can be stable and will not be deleted. ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 02:36, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi {{u|TheChunky}}. Thanks for your reply.I thought of adding some content and references later. However will do so now to make it more suited to Wikipedia policies. Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 02:55, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep. The Times of India, Indian Express, Hindustan Times [https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/others/aindrila-sharma-s-sis-writes-i-am-crippled-without-you-in-heartbreaking-note-101669195548648.html] are the sources. Meets WP:NACTRESS per having roles in TV shows and having accolades. First, there are sources before death of the actress: [https://www.telegraphindia.com/my-kolkata/people/cancer-survivor-and-actor-aindrila-sharma-on-moving-on-with-positivity/cid/1839511] [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/bengali/rachna-banerjee-hosted-didi-no-1-to-feature-aindrila-sharma-debadrita-basu-and-other-celebs-see-pics/photostory/89991163.cms] [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/bengali/actress-aindrila-sharma-enjoys-a-much-awaited-trip-post-recovery/articleshow/89743567.cms]. Second, significant coverage does not need to be multiple times, which was demonstrated numerous times in different discussion. Considering that The Times of India write about her, I don't think that nomination is justified. I suggest somebody close it. Kirill C1 (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

:Comment: First of all, as you said, she is covered multiple times, but I didn't find she was significantly covered except when she died. Before her death, most of the articles made passing mention of her and the Times of India article was about her while fighting cancer. That can't make sense for someone fighting cancer to be notable on Wiki. There are thousands of people who are fighting, and their stories are published in the news. She was covered at the time of her death, so she falls under WP:BIO1E which makes questions in her notability. She must at least pass WP:NBASIC if she was covered multiple times and have WP:SIGCOV. And you said significant coverage does not need to be multiple times, which is not true, but yes, it doesn't require that each event about her needs to be deeply covered, but passing mention doesn't make sense if she is covered multiple times but there are just passing mentions, except for 1 or 2 news coverages.❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 02:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

::"She was covered at the time of her death, so she falls under WP:BIO1E which makes questions in her notability. " - no, she doesn't. There was a coverage prior death, that alone negates one event argument, and also she had roles and was notable for being actress. "And you said significant coverage does not need to be multiple times, which is not true" - this was debated numerous times, there are plenty articles based on obits only, for actors for instance. There are not 1 or 2 news coverage. There are plenty of articles on The Times of India and Hindustan Times alone. The articles are from 2021 and 2022, clearly one event is not applicable here. Kirill C1 (talk) 12:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete If we are to consider her notable as an actor then we need information about her as an actor. Neither the sources listed here nor the ones in the article do that. It's not just that they are focused on her illness and death, they say almost nothing about any other reason for her fame. The Telegraph India article does have a bit of biographical information and mentions the names of TV shows, but it's not an assessment of her in her profession. Lamona (talk) 05:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
  • :They say about her roles. "he Telegraph India article does have a bit of biographical information and mentions the names of TV shows, but it's not an assessment of her in her profession" -on the contrary, there is enough written "Aindrila is a trained dancer, but this video is more than just a showcase of her skill. Aindrila, who made her debut with the Bengali tele-serial Jhumur in 2017, has been in the limelight for several popular television projects like Jibon Jyoti, Mahapeeth Tarapeeth, and Jiyon Kathi. The actress received much appreciation and encouragement from fans and industry peers for her dedication towards her craft when she completed the shooting for Jiyon Kathi on her return to the city". Kirill C1 (talk) 11:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
  • ::Kirill C1 A sentence or two mentioning her roles is just not enough for notability. Lamona (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
  • :::There are more than 2 sentences about her. "mentions the names of TV shows" - this is what is written in obituaries, you can read articles in Variety about American actors, they concict of lists of roles too. Kirill C1 (talk) 17:53, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
  • ::::That article has two short paragraphs. That's really not enough to establish notability. See if you can find significant sources about her as an actor. It will take more than one source and the information content needs to be high. I know it's a high bar, but that's the bar here. Lamona (talk) 19:55, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
  • :::::We have articless based solely on obituaries, there are far more than obituaries here with articles with five paragraphs, etc. Anyway, the assertion in the nomination "She is covered on her death but there is no other WP:SIGCOV" does not apply, see "Popular actress Aindrila Sharma is a talented girl. The actress is a trained dancer too... " in [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/bengali/jiban-jyoti-fame-aindrila-sharma-flaunts-her-dancing-skills-watch-video/articleshow/66114758.cms], etc. Kirill C1 (talk) 14:05, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
  • :::::There is more than one source, and there is no bar besides WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR, which she passes. Kirill C1 (talk) 14:06, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment. BLP:1E doesn't apply, since there is coverage previously, and for a long period. There is significant coverage on her and she is clearly notable actress and famous in India by sources that are about her and by their level, they are top sources. Kirill C1 (talk) 12:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
  • :User:Кирилл С1 I think it would be helpful to link some of the sources you mentioned here. RoostTC(please ping me when replying) 09:44, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
  • ::Yes, here [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/bengali/jiban-jyoti-fame-aindrila-sharma-flaunts-her-dancing-skills-watch-video/articleshow/66114758.cms] there is enough "assesment" of her. Kirill C1 (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:11, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete. I've looked at the presented sourcing and performed a reasonable BEFORE and the only significant material about the subject covers her health issues and death. Her brief career as an actor doesn't seem to be well covered in RS. Her death does not by itself seem notable per NEVENT. Sad but not notable. An article exists on Bengali wikipedia so the subject is not without coverage. If after three relists, this is all that's been found? Delete. BusterD (talk) 20:56, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.