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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aisake Ó hAilpín

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 00:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

=[[Aisake Ó hAilpín]]=

:{{la|Aisake Ó hAilpín}} ([{{fullurl:Aisake Ó hAilpín|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aisake Ó hAilpín}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

Appears to have failed WP:Athlete at the time of article creation and certainly does now as subject did not compete at the fully professional level of this sport, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport. Having now been de-listed from the Carlton Football club even though he was elevated to the senior list,he has not played a senior game. --VS talk 10:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Mattinbgn\talk 20:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nomination. A good example of why crystal-ballery when creating articles on sportspersons is a poor idea, particularly in the light of the rash of articles about not-yet notable Australian rules footballers picked up in the 2008 AFL Draft. -- Mattinbgn\talk 20:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep: satisfies primary notability criteria by being the subject of an hour-long documentary about him & his brother aired on a major TV station. Don't know enough about Gaelic sports to say if achievements there were notable. The-Pope (talk) 23:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. The-Pope (talk) 23:21, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Clearly fails WP:ATHLETE. Concerning his wider notability, his inclusion in the family documentary confirms his relationship with his notable footballing brothers, but I don't think sufficiently elevates his own claims. Murtoa (talk) 01:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable for being the subject of a documentary that has aired on TV. Lankiveil (speak to me) 23:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC).
  • Comment Without sounding cute, it was his family that was the subject of the documentary, not Aisake. His status in the documentary was as as a brother of notable sporting identities, who was an AFL wannabe in his own right. His own AFL career has subsequently not come to fruition. Does that make him notable? Murtoa (talk) 01:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment, perhaps "a subject of..." would have been a better choice of words. From the brief bits of watched on Youtube, Aisake is covered reasonably in-depth, and I wouldn't say that the attention he got was trivial. It should also be noted that the documentary in question won an IFTA award, before anyone plays the "non-notable documentary" card. There is also [http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/brothers-make-shock-return-to-club-football-1088776.html ample] [http://www.examiner.ie/breaking/sport/mhidkfqlcwmh/ secondary] [http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/?jp=kfqlidgbkfid coverage] of [http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php?story=20081013230340351 this] [http://www.rte.ie/sport/2004/1103/halpin.html person]. It is my opinion that this one just falls over the line. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC).

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