Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akai Rice

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 04:48, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

=[[Akai Rice]]=

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Non-notable type of heirloom rice. I have searched for sources on Google News Archive and Google Books but have been unable to find anything substantial. The article contains two references; [http://uncpress.unc.edu/browse/book_detail?title_id=1312 one] does not mention the topic, while the [http://www.defra.gov.uk/planth/pvs/nlguide.htm other] is an error page. Cunard (talk) 05:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Delete - The only sources (not very notable ones though) I can find online talk negatively about Akai Rice being a scam that makes unfounded health claims. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 15:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

:Scam? Could you please explain?

:akai heirloom rice grain is a type of heirloom grain. You can also take a look at "heirloom tomato" article. Heirloom tomato has different types as well: Cherokee Purple, Brandywine, Morgage Lifter , etc. Heirloom grains or tomatoes can be found in a wide variety of colors, shapes, flavors and sizes that's why they have a lot of different types and names.ArnikaLA talk)

::Sure, here are some of the links I've turned up (which are not notable, but as requested I'm providing them): [http://www.scamclub.com/reports/Akai-Rice-Company-1846.html], [http://www.ripoffreport.com/Alternative-Health/Akai-Rice-Company/akai-rice-company-ripoff-alham-bffye.htm], [http://www.reasoninmadness.com/?p=436] ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 18:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

:::According to these links "AKAI" is a company/product name that sell rice.

:::Akai heirloom rice grain is just a type of heirloom rice itself and has nothing to do with "AKAI" company or "AKAI" product.

:::The article "akai rice" doesn't provide any product information and doesn't mention any company name.

:::It's just a grain. eirloom grains have become increasingly popular and more readily available in recent years. Usually you can get it from your local farmers. Regular supermarket do not have heirloom grain, only organic rice. ArnikaLA talk)

::::That is fine. I wasn't citing the scam concerns in terms of deletion. I was saying that I have not found any reliable sources to demonstrate notability for the rice itself. The only sources I find mention the potentially scammy company using a similar name. If you can find some notable sources that discuss the akai rice heirloom variety, then please do add them to the article. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 19:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

:::::*Add them to the article or to this page?ArnikaLA talk)

::::::*Please add them to both pages. If you could, would you scan the pages from your books about Akai Rice to your computer, and then upload them to Flickr or any other photo-sharing websites? If these sources provide nontrivial coverage about Akai Rice, this topic is notable, and I will withdraw this deletion nomination.

Alternatively, this article could be merged to the article about heirloom plants. See the discussion I am having with ArnikaLa here ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cunard&oldid=314671088#Akai_Rice permalink]). Cunard (talk) 06:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment I'm not quite certain what this article is trying to do. I get very little from it that seems relevant. I would like to see more referencing - and info. Is this the same rice as the red Camargue rice in Peridon's kitchen, produced by the Griottos, or something different? Will do some more digging tomorrow. (No, not in the fields...) Peridon (talk) 21:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

:*Camarque is a region where they produce a different kinds of rice. Red rice is one of a kind, akai heirloom rice grain is another kind. Each kind of rice has their own unique characteristics. Most of red rice that we see in our supermarkets are organic, but not heirloom. ArnikaLA talk)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
First impression was that as a living organism, we want it, regardless of poor sourcing. However, it is not a specie or variety, but a marketing thing? The article definitely feels promotional. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. —ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 22:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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