Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albania–Cyprus relations

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Contested prod. No sources exist indicating this is a notable relationship. Biruitorul ^Talk 15:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

• Notability could probably be established in the usual way: [http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=Cyprus+albania] TheWilyFox (talk) 15:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
• Heh. But seriously: a) a few agreements and meetings and the like are part of the normal course of international relations, and the stuff of news, not an encyclopedic article; b) those articles do not deal with the relationship as such, which is not documented anywhere. For us to decide that they constitute notable features of the relationship would be in breach of WP:SYNTH. - Biruitorul ^Talk 16:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
• Actually, this pair may have more than trivia, especially if both Cypruses are considered. They are, after all, one night's ride away in a smuggler's dinghy. NVO (talk) 17:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::I'd expect so too--but we do have to find something.DGG (talk) 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::The first story in that link I gave says "The two Foreign Ministers held talks during which they discussed ways of enhancing bilateral relations and cooperation between Cyprus and Albania and signed a Protocol of Cooperation between the two Ministries." TheWilyFox (talk) 23:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::::Great, a ministerial meeting was held, pleasantries were exchanged, and...? That doesn't quite take us into "notable relationship" territory. - Biruitorul ^Talk 00:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

:::::See (b) above. TheWilyFox (talk) 01:02, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

• Keep To quote Biruitorul, "a few agreements and meetings and the like are part of the normal course of international relations," and the normal course of international affairs between two nations is notable. Many normal things are notable. They don't have to be exceptional, just important. DGG (talk) 21:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:I respectfully disagree that the normal course of anything is inherently notable. --BlueSquadronRaven 21:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

• Delete Once again, a randomly created article that does nothing to assert notability in world affairs, and is not likely to be able to.--BlueSquadronRaven 21:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
• Delete no reliable sources discuss this relationship in any non-trivial detail, such that we could justify having an encyclopedia article. The relationship is of such little importance that neither state keeps an embassy in the other. I would imagine if one were to call up the desk officers nominally responsible for this relationship at their respective embassies in Athens and ask how much time a week they spent on this, it's likely the answer would be "no time at all." Nor whould we spend any more of ours on this.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
• Delete Cruftish juxtaposition, which translates into "these countries have once waved to each other". Dahn (talk) 19:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. -- Russavia ^Dialogue 11:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cyprus-related deletion discussions. -- Russavia ^Dialogue 11:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. -- Russavia ^Dialogue 11:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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