Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Angel (BLACK ANGELS)

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Removed content which was a copy-vio (see talk). Subject fails WP:NBAND and WP:GNG Flat Out (talk) 05:36, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

• Delete According to the criteria for musicians and ensembles subjects must have been "the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself". In this case, several of the references and external links are self-published or otherwise not notable (Vevo and MTV music allow any artists to host content on the respective sites). The article claims the artist "won the metal charts" of certain cities by Reverbnation; however, a citation is needed. The article does not meet any of the other criteria for musicians and ensembles, nor the general notability guideline, so I think it is a safe delete at this time. MJ94 (talk) 08:26, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

: MJ94, Yes, of cause, every artist (band) has 81 and more music videos on Vevo as Alex Angel (BLACK ANGELS)...it's usual thing maybe...but in your imagination only! By the way...On 11 July 2015: One Direction - 157 music videos on VEVO, Beyonce - 121 music videos on VEVO, Pitbull - 120 music videos on VEVO, Lady Gaga - 118 music videos on VEVO, Justin Bieber - 97 music videos on VEVO, Alex Angel (BLACK ANGELS) - 81 music videos on VEVO, Taylor Swift - 69 music videos on VEVO, Nicki Minaj - 50 music videos on VEVO, Justin Timberlake - 40 music videos on VEVO, Miley Cyrus - 33 music videos on VEVO.

Vevo is the prime music network and Vevo's content system doesn't accept all artists and all music videos! Go to Vevo site then go to Billboard site and learn more about Vevo.Nelep — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oleksii Nelep (talk • contribs) 03:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

• Delete For the reasoning above, they fail WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Also, winning metal charts in lots of cities doesn't necessarily pass WP:NMUSIC IMO, even if sourced properly. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:27, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
• Delete nn band Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:45, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

• Delete no evidence of notability Avi (talk) 16:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

::Comment - Hey, Rovi is the company which learn and verify full discography of artist (band) in physical forms. So releses and copyrights. After learn they make the artist page for the Alex Angel (BLACK ANGELS) at AllMusic (links are availabe in the article). The project released 5 full-lenght albums and 15 music videos. Photos to metal charts with rank #1 are available too. There are a lot of ukrainian bands without any results on En.Wikipedia. This band has result. That's why this article must be alive. Nelep — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oleksii Nelep (talk • contribs) 18:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

:::Comment The English Wikipedia project criteria for ascertaining the notability of musical groups are pretty clear. The ensemble in question has not been shown to meet any of those criteria. Just releasing albums, playing concerts, or having brief mentions in the press is insufficient. -- Avi (talk) 14:10, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Avi, And where is the justice? You do not consider that the group from Ukraine. And in Ukraine there is no rock industry. There are no charts. There is not a single TV channel for rock. Therefore, the results of this rock band, given her a hit on MTV, VEVO, AllMusic/Rovi, Encyclopaedia Metallum and other international music platform, says that it is the first and only to date a rock band of international importance of Ukraine. But on the English Wikipedia, I see a lot of Ukrainian rock bands of local significance. They are not on international music platforms and they are less well known than this rock band. So, go first to him and then come back here. So it will be fair. Thanks.Oleksii Nelep — Preceding undated comment added 03:09, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

:The fact that there is one article which may need to be deleted is not a reason to keep another. By all means, if you know of other articles which do not belong, please nominate them for deletion. As for justice, I recommend reading this essay. In a nutshell, this project is not meant to be a social network or a general repository—it is meant to be an encyclopedia, and it has standards. As we are all volunteers, we can only fix one article at a time. Not being notable doesn't mean the band are bad people, or even bad musicians. All it means is that at this point, it has not achieved sufficient notability for its own article. -- Avi (talk) 04:04, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

:The popularity of this group in Ukraine is just enough to be a star quality for Ukraine, also it is of the international level, this is said by the main music channel of Ukraine - M1 TV (link and сitation is in the article: http://m1.tv/stars/298). And level premiums Grammy from Ukraine so far, nobody participated yet. On the other hand, there are some scans (photos) with 1st place in the metal charts (New York, Miami and Los Angeles) by Reverbnation and invitations artist on two of The X Factor in English and Ukrainian. But I don't know how to attach them to the article. Thanks. Oleksii Nelep — Preceding undated comment added 15:52, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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