Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allison Weiss

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

=[[Allison Weiss]]=

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An unsigned singer-songwriter. Hasn't released an album or song via any label. She self-publishes her music. Her claim to fame is raising money via Kickstarter for her first album. Article has one reference to a three paragraph article in the New York Times. I can't find the alleged Wired article anywhere. Only other reliable ref I've found is a [http://www.curvemag.com/Curve-Magazine/Web-Articles-2011/Allison-in-Queeryland/ Curve Magazine article]. Ref was on-line only and not in the magazine. I think the first sentence from the on-line article says it best, "Unless you are a fan of Tumblr and are a lesbian living in New York, then chances are you haven’t heard of Allison Weiss." Only other refs I can find are blogs. Fails WP:MUSICBIO and not enough reliable, independent sources to pass GNG. Prod was contested on unknown grounds. Bgwhite (talk) 23:52, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bgwhite (talk) 23:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

:Now passes WP:MUSICBIO on the grounds that the article: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself" Keep, for this reason. Although the New York Times piece is short it is there, and credible. The full length article with a video interview by Billboard.com is certainly noteworthy, and the selection as a panelist at SXSW is certainly non-trivial. Additionally recommending the removal of stub-status at this point. Cameronhurd (talk) 02:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

::Please see WP:SOURCES on what is and isn't a reliable source. The interviews, blogs, bandcamp, and tour postings are not reliable. Bgwhite (talk) 04:42, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Keep There's enough independent and reliable coverage to compile a decent article about this singer/songwriter [http://www.google.cz/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=%22Allison+Weiss%22&oq=%22Allison+Weiss%22&aq=f&aqi=d2&aql=&gs_l=news-cc.12..43j43i400.2272.2272.0.3182.1.1.0.0.0.0.92.92.1.1.0...0.0.g1kXSMwlmvE#hl=en&gl=us&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22Allison+Weiss%22+singer&oq=%22Allison+Weiss%22+singer&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...14609.15951.0.16133.7.7.0.0.0.0.179.726.5j2.7.0...0.0.Go4DNq4LA3A&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5f35dbed06bab8e2&biw=1420&bih=875], [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8483665.stm], [http://www.billboard.com/features/allison-weiss-1003993114.story#/features/allison-weiss-1003993114.story], [http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/14858/Her_Faith_in_Athfest_Pays_Off_Well/], [http://redandblack.com/2008/07/10/when-a-band-loves-a-woman-allison-weiss/] etc. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:42, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Keep per the refs found by Vejvančický. Now certainly sufficient RS especially BBC and Jewish Exponent to form an article on a singer. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:21, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Delete based on WP:COMPOSER. I can't find any references to a songwriting credit of a notbale song. Roodog2k (talk) 15:29, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

: Why WP:COMPOSER as criteria? The proposed notability is that of a musician (i.e. WP:MUSICBIO) and not a "composer or lyricist". Cameronhurd (talk) 16:52, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

:: She's identified as a singer/SONGWRITER. Someone else covered the non-notability of the singer part. Roodog2k (talk) 20:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

::: She only has to pass one of these, and we now have enough reliable sources for a singer. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:47, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

:::: I disagree. The UGA article is pretty much out, per WP:MUSICBIO. The BBC article is not about her, and is only a trivial mention. This leaves us with really two references.Roodog2k (talk) 13:36, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Keep: the sources identified by Vejvančický are substantial, notably the Billboard feature as well as the BBC and Jewish Exponent articles. --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:57, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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