Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American intervention in Libya

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There are a lot of unsourced facts in article. I think we need to remove it and add sourced information to Libya–United States relations Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:06, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

call in an airstrike, er, delete "List of US airstrikes in Libya since August 2016" simply doesn't strike me as an encyclopedic approach to the subject, so some serious WP:TNT application seems called for, at the least. And I too wonder about the sourcing: who actually counts as a reliable source for this kind of information? Mangoe (talk) 13:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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• Weak Keep. Should be renamed (to included year), and better sourced, but from a BEFORE it does seem this is notable. Other air campaigns have articles - e.g. 2011 military intervention in Libya.Icewhiz (talk) 14:43, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
• :Right, but other articles have information beyond unsourced list of airstrikes. If we remove the unsourced information, nothing remains in this article. It's at least case of WP:TNT, which if not deleted, should be draftified and completely reworked. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 16:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
• Comment In addition, it's partially duplicates Libyan Civil War (2014-present). Arthistorian1977 (talk) 16:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
• : I'm somewhat sympathetic to TNT here, however there are sources in the article. And the infobox and lead are Ok. I would probably re-title to American Intervention in Libyan Civil War (2014–present). I do think the subject, merits of the current prose and sourcing aside, does have legs for notability.Icewhiz (talk) 19:28, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
• :: Sources cover the small amount of information in the article. Also, renaming to American Intervention in Libyan Civil War (2014–present) means adding significant information about the intervention and not just list of airstrikes. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 19:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
• ::: The intervention seems to be, in this case, primarily low-rate sorties and probably intel as well.Icewhiz (talk) 19:47, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
• Keep per Marines' Hymn. American intervention in Libya has been going on for a long time. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

:This has nothing to do with the fact that American intervention in Libya has been going on for a long time. As I mentioned, this is just a list of airstrikes of 2016-2017, unsourced and not related to article title. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 17:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

• Keep If anyone actually took the time to look at the actual references they would know that the airstrikes August through December of 2016, can be found under the same link entered [https://airwars.org/libya-airstrike-reports-and-alleged-civilian-casualties/] Every airstrike can be found on there. Theres no reason to reference the same thing more than 3 times. We can however reorder the article into all airstrikes in August, September, October ext under a different column each time and to have them categorized together. This article is important as there is no official article whatsoever on Wikipedia that fully covers the operations conducted by the United States in the country of Libya post-Gaddafi coup. The United States is currently covertly running a war in the country against the ISIS, and supporting the newly formed government against the militants and opposing forces attempting to overthrow it. Whether its airstrikes, Special Forces, active patrolling troops, this particular conflict has to be covered and it must be here. IMO the the article will get better and will eventually sprout into a full and "acceptable" page, but the conflict is too new right now. I originally began the article. And since I see the it is quite sloppy and unfinished I will find more reliable sources and attempt to cover as much information possible, long as the information is credible of course. I say we keep this. And see where it goes. I might add that if this article does get taken down, we should add the information to the Libyan Civil War (2014-present) as theres not much about American involvement covered in it. The purpose of American intervention in Libya was to include our operations since the beginning of the Second Libyan Civil War.
• :Comment Well, taking into account your comment, I think you agree, that if article stays, it should be renamed American Intervention in Libyan Civil War (2014–present) and cover more information than just list of airstrikes. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 19:55, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

yeah the article should definitely be kept — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dg777714 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

• Keep The article definitely needs a more specific name (especially as the US has intervened in Libya on multiple occasions), but the series of events it covers have attracted significant media coverage and discussion and are likely to be of lasting significance. Nick-D (talk) 21:47, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
• Keep but it deserves the tag that it has. American air strikes in Libya 2016-- might be a better title. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:48, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

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