Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ang Dalubhasa

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The result was no consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) KTC (talk) 00:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

=[[Ang Dalubhasa]]=

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Completely unreferenced Tagalog film. No corresponding article in the Tagalog wikipedia to steal references from. Written, directed and starring the same person, which is commonly a sign of a very low budget production in the west (no idea whether that translates to the Philippines). No obvious reliable sources in google. There may be some reliable sources in Tagalog, but I don't speak Tagalog and most of them are distinctly non-reliable. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:28, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:28, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

:Easy keep. Eh... this was one of Fernando Poe, Jr.'s most famous films. FPJ was so awesome he's the actor, producer and director of most of his movies. The Philippine Star [http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=92091&publicationSubCategoryId=70 reported] that the movie was ~~one of~~ the first blockbuster of 2000. –H T D 20:11, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Keep. I was too young to remember this film when it was released, but it was made by Fernando Poe Jr. and it was a blockbuster (meaning it was a smashing success, probably on par with Jose Rizal). We shouldn't have a systemic bias here on Wiki, right? But still, it could use more sources, but then again this was released before the Internet was truly mainstream among Filipinos. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I'd say by 2000 the internet was quite mainstream already and if this article was done in 2000 there could've been a lot of online sources, but they're gone now thanks to link rot. –H T D 04:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
BTW, for those looking for Tagalog references, don't bet on it. Most of the online news media are in English, and there are more than Philippine-related articles in the English Wikipedia than the Tagalog Wikipedia since most of the reference materials (books and government records) are in English. –H T D 19:13, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 00:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Uncertain but possible keep if additional sources are found - Although several countries will use English for professional use, documents such as books and films may have non-English coverage. Google Books found one non-English result [http://www.google.com/search?q=Ang+Dalubhasa&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1 here] (first result, disregarding the YouTube video) and the next Google Books result below that is also a minor mention. Google News found two results [http://web.archive.org/web/20090607141026/http://www.inquirer.net/saturday/jan2000wk4/spc_main.htm here] and [http://www.newsflash.org/2000/04/sb/sb001192.htm here] that both mention the film several times. If Fernando Poe, Jr. is such a well-known actor, there is probably coverage but not English. SwisterTwister talk 02:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
There are lots of sources, but as what I've said, they're all dead to link rot as this was shown before 2006. The non-English source you've cited looks like the preview to the movie, which is almost always Tagalog in FPJ films. The 2 news sources you provided are similar to the now dead links that could've been used. –H T D 03:23, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Wifione ^Message 12:45, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Theo polisme 16:20, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

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