Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anne Logston (2nd nomination)

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The subject fails the WP:GNG as well as WP:AUTHOR. They do have published works, but none including the author were mentioned in independent reliable sources. Less Unless (talk) 20:06, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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• Soft Delete - The existence of book reviews does not automatically confer notability on the author. Waiting to see some SIGCOV. Rogermx (talk) 02:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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• Delete we do not have significant coverage of Logston.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:00, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NAUTHOR. No independent coverage, just book sales and niche sites. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

:Comment: Possible sources demonstrating significant coverage include:

::Kliatt, January, 1992, p. 18; September, 1993, p. 18; July, 1994, p. 16; May, 1995, p. 16; November, 1995, p. 17.

::Locus, August, 1991, pp. 27, 55; January, 1993, pp. 31; July, 1993, p. 50; April, 1994, p. 29; December, 1994, p. 29.

::Science Fiction Chronicle, June, 1992, p. 33.

::Voice of Youth Advocates, June, 1992, p. 111; August, 1994, p. 158. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:46, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

• Keep Contemporary Authors and references suggest significant coverage of her career and works. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

• Weak keep – She's in the The Encyclopedia of Fantasy[https://books.google.com/books?id=mfjAjibERF0C&pg=PA589&lpg=PA589&dq=Anne+Logston+shadow&source=bl&ots=csjrgyOJud&sig=ACfU3U0iEDPfnkLzK-IpjVF1N2tvHjeLbg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjz3teyr5rnAhVMtZ4KHfQDCis4UBDoATAIegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=Anne%20Logston%20shadow&f=false] and here are some other sources:

:*[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42851693/book_creates_wonderful_journey/ "Book creates wonderful journey"] from Daily Journal

:*[https://books.google.com/books?id=7JKw5FYA4GgC&pg=PA253&lpg=PA253&dq=Anne+Logston+shadow&source=bl&ots=VCItfnvkPM&sig=ACfU3U10pyYf68uv8iwF4YOy7xpSa9VXoQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRqZqor5rnAhWIuZ4KHdAeAv44RhDoATADegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=Anne%20Logston%20shadow&f=false Entry in] The A to Z of Fantasy Literature

:Missvain (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

• Comment, i am swaying here, one point of WP:NAUTHOR requires reviews of their works and for them to be "significant or well-known", although there are plenty of reviews available from "good" sources (see ISFDB [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2856 listing here]) - click on individual titles and reviews are listed (there are reviews in addition to those mentioned by {{u|DiamondRemley39}} above) - i note that 5 of the titles have 2 reviews listed that technically meet WP:NBOOK ie. multiple reviews, and depending on which books are reviewed in Kliatt, and VOYA mentioned above may mean that more of her books are wikinotable/articleworthy, a concern is that they may be deemed not well known ie. library holdings (acknowledging that the figures may not be uptodate) are in the low double figures (highest found: Dagger's Edge [https://www.worldcat.org/title/daggers-edge/oclc/834977018&referer=brief_results 34 libraries], Waterdance [https://www.worldcat.org/title/waterdance/oclc/423044710&referer=brief_results 27 libraries], Shadow [https://www.worldcat.org/title/shadow/oclc/939468051&referer=brief_results 24 libraries]), but with Logston being covered by Encyc Fantasy and A to Z Fant Lit i am feeling "keepish". Coolabahapple (talk) 06:37, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

:Good points, {{u|Coolabahapple}}. Have you considered the relatively short life shelf life of physical copies of books in libraries? Libraries weed for damage and age; OCLC holdings are updated when books are withdrawn from catalogs; older titles may only be reordered if requested by patrons and if still in print. Her library holdings numbers were most certainly quite a bit higher closer to the publication dates. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 10:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2856 ISFDB] shows two published reviews for Guardian's Key, one for Exile, two for Dagger's Edge, two for Dagger's Point, two for Shadow, one for Shadow Dance, two for Greendaughter, one for Wild Blood, one for Firewalk, and one for Waterdance, for a total of 15 reviews of 10 of her books. That's plenty for WP:AUTHOR. They would have all been in print magazines in the 1990s, so not likely available online, but sources don't need to be online for them to demonstrate notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:58, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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