Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arden McCarthy

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Not notable. Yet to play a senior NRL or international game [http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/player/0,25470,15321_520655,00.html]. Lacks coverage about him in independent reliable sources. One of a glut of articles on seemingly non notable St Peter's College old boys. Wikipedia is not a webhost for a collection bios of a schools former students. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:55, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Rugby union-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Delete - As per WP:NOTNOW, if the sportsman ever becomes notable recreation is welcome, wikipedia is not a place for every single academic person or sportsman which are not widely covered. Eduemoni^↑talk↓ 18:06, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• Delete - I jumped the gun and expanded this article when he was named in the Samoan 2013 Rugby League World Cup squad, which would have seen him become notable. However he was removed from the squad and did not play a match at the tournament. Clearly fails WP:RLN. Mattlore (talk) 22:10, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
• Keep - He has represented Samoa they are full members of the RLIF..Youndbuckerz (talk) 10:12, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

http://www.rugbyleaguesamoa.com/home/137-samoa-smash-usa

::Their opponents for that game, USA, are not RLIF or RLEF members so the game does not count as a competitive international match for WP:RLN. And don't remove AfD notices from articles while they are still at AfD. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:10, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Keep International sporteman; always notable if representing country in any sports code.Rick570 (talk) 00:10, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

::No, there isn't, and shouldn't, be an article on every sports man or women who have represented every country in every code. (For instance [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_national_handball_team#Current_roster]). In this case (rugby league) the notability guidelines state they are notable if play at a World Cup or in a match between two nations that are full members of the RLIF. Mattlore (talk) 01:25, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

::: He is in the Samoa national team at the Rugby League World Cup for goodness sake. He is an international representative. Notable without a doubt. Rick570 (talk) 05:24, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

::::He is not in the Samoa national team at the Rugby League World Cup [http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/match_preview/0,,11070_3685366,00.html]. duffbeerforme (talk) 01:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

:::::He is according to [http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24468387 the BBC source] actually in the article. SpinningSpark 16:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

• delete per nom. fails WP:RLN. -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 17:25, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
• Provisional keep unless it is determined that he is not/ has not been in the national team Rugby League World Cup squad. SpinningSpark 16:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
• Keep. According to the official Samoan Rugby League web site, he is indeed on the Rugby World Cup team for Samoa http://rugbyleaguesamoa.com/rls-teams/toa-samoa/165-world-cup-team-announced Mattlore has better references, which show this should have been Delete --Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:57, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

::Comment. He was named in the original squad named by Samoa. Samoa had some...odd..problems when they named there squad, including originally naming 26 players in there 24 man squad. While I have not found an official article or release about him being dropped from the squad, he was not in the final squad that actually played in the tournament. Samoa's tournament is over and he definitely did not play a match. Here is the squad from the official RLWC site [http://www.rlwc2013.com/nations/samoa] and another link to a list of players who played in the tournament [http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/competitions/world-cup-2013/squads.html]. Mattlore (talk) 22:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:52, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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Keep He was selected for the Samoa National Rugby League Team for the 2013 Rugby League World Cup tournament. He is therefore notable.Rick570 (talk) 05:18, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

:I have struck your keep, you cannot !vote twice. SpinningSpark 09:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

• Delete As per nom. Fails WP:RLN as he has not played for/against appropriate teams. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

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