Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Austin Bush

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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Does not meet WP:GNG. Lack of in-depth independent coverage. The sources are all articles written by him, or are completely or primarily interviews, or very minor mentions. MB 05:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Food and drink, Thailand, and Oregon. MB 05:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete: per nominator. Subject does not meet WP:NJOURNALIST. ––User:FormalDude talk 09:48, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: The coverage in Time Out[https://www.timeout.com/bangkok/restaurants/time-out-meets-austin-bush], BK Magazine[https://bk.asia-city.com/city-living-restaurants/news/cookbook-author-spreading-gospel-about-northern-thai-food], Thailand Insider[https://thailandinsider.com/dig-into-northern-thai-cuisine-with-author-and-photographer-austin-bush/], Splendid Table[https://www.splendidtable.org/story/2019/01/10/austin-bush-explores-the-diverse-food-of-northern-thailand] and CNN[https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/northern-thailand-food/index.html] are primarily about him or his views on northern Thai cuisine, but they're all interviews. All of them do include introductory material in the writer's voice, but they're not exactly in-depth. There's a lot of mention of his book, but not much in terms of reviews by established publications. The New York Times' recommendation[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/03/travel/6-cookbooks-that-double-as-guidebooks.html] isn't a dedicated review, so it probably doesn't count towards WP:AUTHOR. Thai-language sources are mostly about his exhibitions.[https://www.tamarindvillage.com/th/ancient-root.php][https://reviewchiangmai.com/2863-p/][https://www.kathmanduphotobkk.com/?p=5097] --Paul_012 (talk) 10:46, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:21, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Weak keep: The author's views and works have received substantial coverage in prominent secondary sources. But I also conceded that most of them are completely or primarily interviews.--IndyNotes (talk) 17:29, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Interviews are primary sources and are not independent and therefore do not count towards notability. ––User:FormalDude talk 08:34, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
  • :There is no policy or guideline that says that. The best we have is an essay WP:INTERVIEW and it has a section for Notability Wikipedia:Interviews#Notability which says "if the material the interviewer brought to the table is secondary and independent, [it] contributes to the claim that the subject has met the requirements laid out in the general notability guideline." One has to look at the type of interview and gauge it. For example [https://www.timeout.com/bangkok/restaurants/time-out-meets-austin-bush Time Out] is "merely quoting" blocks of text with little added by the journalist. Same with BK Magazine and Thailand Insider. Splendid Table and CNN are less clear as the journalist is more involved making commentary or responding to what the person said. The other thing is the essay says "A multitude of interviews with a breadth of styles shows a wide range of attention being given to the subject and can be considered as evidence of notability." For some reason this person has a lot of interviews, sources are choosing to pay attention to them, even if individually some interviews are "merely quoting" blocks of text as a whole they might show a different picture. -- GreenC 16:15, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

:I ask the closer to allow at least one extra day, I started a bit of organizing and located an image on commons, submitted for ARS help as well. Lightburst (talk) 15:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:00, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete If we can truly base an entire BLP article solely on stuff written by the subject themselves, then im going to create my own website, write whatever i want, then create an article on Wikipedia describing me as the best person to ever exist, and solely reference it to my own website. Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 14:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Lacks independent coverage to meet WP:NBIO. MrsSnoozyTurtle 23:01, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Willing to reconsider if he ever publishes again but currently does not pass WP:NAUTHOR. At this time, it seems like he is quoted as somebody knowledgeable on Northern Thai cuisine but nothing present is able to pass WP:NJOURNALIST. -- BriefEdits (talk) 00:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:NBIO. He's written articles but that doesn't make him notable enough. NytharT.C 20:42, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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