Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BBC Two England

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Article is a clear and pointless copy of BBC Two, both BBC Two Wales and BBC Two England appear to have the same programming, thus should both redirect to the same article. Editors, with the exception of one appear to have a consensus with making the article a redirect on the talkpage at Talk:BBC Two England. User:GEAT BEOWULF repeatedly re-creates the article whenever it is changed back to a redirect or edited in a way that appears to conform to it being deleted/removed, possibly a case of WP:OWN. -=- Adam Walker -=- 16:36, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

:Delete: 'BBC Two England' is simply just 'BBC Two (Network)', BBC Two Scotland, NI and Wales can opt out of Network at anytime, of which Scotland, NI and occasional Wales do. A possible protection on the page may also be needed. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 16:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

:Delete: No such channel exists. Rangoon11 (talk) 17:09, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

:Redirect:It is the same channel as BBC Two & there is nothing in the article that shows any specific difference that would warrant a separate section of the BBC Two article, let alone an entirely new article. It should redirect to BBC Two, just like BBC One England does to BBC One. Mrmatiko (talk) 17:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

:Redirect per Mrmatiko. I would also recommend protecting it. Doh5678 Talk 17:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

:Delete and SALT, if you say that somebody keeps creating it. Who needs names? ^{talk the talk} 18:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Delete; I'm not convinced a redirect is needed. See this text currently in the BBC Two article: "There is no specific BBC Two England, this role is fulfilled by the network BBC Two." —C.Fred (talk) 19:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
• Redirect. BBC Two England is the same as BBC Two, but outside of England "BBC Two" may also refer to the local version so the name "BBC Two England" is used - for example see List of channels on Freesat. Peter E. James (talk) 20:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:42, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Delete and Salt. Clearly a case of WP:OWN. Even cleaning up the crappy way it is written results in a revert by the owner to the same crappy form it is now in. 184.144.163.181 (talk) 04:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. Redirect does not appear necessary, since "there is no specific BBC Two England". Guoguo12--Talk--  19:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. Redundant variant of BBC Two. This article could/should have been A10 Speedy Deleted as a recently created article that duplicates an existing topic. Kapgains (talk) 18:53, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. A completely useless copy of BBC Two, BBC Two England is an organisation that simply does not exist and it is completely insane to have a page on it. It is confusing to those who want to find out and it is far better without. I would suggest a redirect, as there are a number of links in other articles to BBC Two England (used to differentiate from BBC Two Scotland, NI and Wales), but the user who maintains the page keeps deleting the redirects. It is therefore best to delete the page. Rafmarham (talk) 18:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

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