Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Banksathi

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 01:12, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

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Falls well short of WP:NCORP. The sources provide only trivial coverage and fail to meet the significant coverage requirement. Yuvaank (talk) 09:07, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Finance, Companies, and India. Yuvaank (talk) 09:07, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Karnataka-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:11, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete as nommed, no sign of notability. Previously draftified, and subsequently moved back to main space by the author, so bringing this to AfD was the only option. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:18, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete - Fails NCORP. Even the reference from Entrepreneur is unreliable as its contributor content. Was going to take to AfD myself but was waiting on COI clarification from page creator. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:24, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete - Given sources are not independent in my opinion and lacks. Article appears not written from NPOV. Nothing more than Deletion. Rahmatula786 (talk) 11:40, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete. Page fails WP:NCORP. This article does not have any beneficial contribution and does not warrant significant notability. RangersRus (talk) 01:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep. BankSathi meets the criteria for notability under WP:NCORP. The company has received significant coverage in reputable financial news sources, including reports of a potential acquisition by InsuranceDekho, indicating market significance. BankSathi's $7.63 million in seed funding, with investors such as Kotak Securities, LetsVenture, Kunal Shah, Nithin Kamath, and Gaurav Munjal, is documented by Tracxn and multiple news articles, demonstrating substantial investment and industry recognition. Furthermore, its operations, involving a network of over 700,000 financial advisors and its role in financial product distribution and literacy, are discussed in sources like CXOToday, providing evidence of its impact and scope. These elements collectively establish BankSathi's notability through significant coverage and industry recognition. MH-wiki2025 (talk) 05:02, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

::You are making a case for inherent notability. Instead, please point out which sources are available that meet WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:16, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

  • Keep. BankSathi meets WP:ORGCRIT through sustained, independent coverage in reliable sources:

Acquisition & Growth – Covered by Economic Times{{Cite news |last=Rag |first=Ajay |date=2024-06-04 |title=InsuranceDekho in talks to acquire credit marketplace BankSathi: sources |url=https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/insurancedekho-in-talks-to-acquire-credit-marketplace-banksathi-sources/articleshow/110673897.cms?from=mdr |access-date=2025-03-09 |work=The Economic Times |issn=0013-0389}}, Business Standard, Inc42{{Cite web |last=Paintola |first=Bhupendra |date=2024-06-04 |title=InsuranceDekho In Final Talks To Pick Up Majority Stake In BankSathi: Report |url=https://inc42.com/buzz/insurancedekho-in-final-talks-to-pick-up-majority-stake-in-banksathi-report/ |access-date=2025-03-09 |website=Inc42 Media |language=en}}.

Funding & Investments – Reported by Tracxn, LiveMint{{Cite news |last=Ramarathinam |first=Ashwin |date=2021-05-17 |title=Fintech startup BankSathi raises $200K in seed funding from angel investors |url=https://www.livemint.com/companies/start-ups/fintech-startup-banksathi-raises-200k-seed-funding-round-from-angel-investors-11621230431214.html |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20230724084645/https://www.livemint.com/companies/start-ups/fintech-startup-banksathi-raises-200k-seed-funding-round-from-angel-investors-11621230431214.html |archive-date=2023-07-24 |access-date=2025-03-09 |work=mint |language=en}}, The Hindu Business Line{{Cite web |last=Bureau |first=Our |date=2021-05-17 |title=BankSathi raises $200K in seed round from angel investors |url=https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/banksathi-raises-200k-in-seed-round-from-angel-investors/article34579863.ece |access-date=2025-03-09 |website=BusinessLine |language=en}}.

Industry Impact – Analyzed by CXOToday{{Cite web |last=Raju |first=Narasimha |date=2022-07-21 |title=Fostering financial literacy by Banksathi |url=https://cxotoday.com/interviews/fostering-financial-literacy-by-banksathi/ |access-date=2025-03-09 |website=CXOToday.com |language=en-US}}, CNBC{{Cite web |date=2022-11-07 |title=Startup Digest: Meta preparing for large-scale layoffs: Report, Twitter fires over 90% of India staff: Report & upGrad to invest $30M to launch 10 global campuses - CNBC TV18 |url=https://www.cnbctv18.com/startup/startup-digest-meta-preparing-for-large-scale-layoffs-report-twitter-fires-over-90-pc-of-india-staff-report-upgrad-to-invest-30m-to-launch-10-global-campuses-15114191.htm |access-date=2025-03-09 |website=CNBCTV18 |language=en}}.

These sources offer significant, in-depth coverage beyond routine mentions, establishing the subject's notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishalwakchaure1992 (talkcontribs)

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:::It can be difficult to assess ORGCRIT as an editor with very little experience on Wikipedia so hopefully I can provide some insight on the sourcing you provided.

:::1. [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/insurancedekho-in-talks-to-acquire-credit-marketplace-banksathi-sources/articleshow/110673897.cms?from=mdr The Economic Times] is a good source but it is churnalism. It is a routine announcement which does not meet ORGCRIT. The headline is the most telling when it start with "InsuranceDekho in talks to acquire credit....." This indicates that an announcement was made and that The Economic Times is simply regurgitating what was in the release. This can be confirmed by using the term "insurancedekho banksathi" is Google where you will see dozens of the same on the same date regurgitating the same.

:::2. [https://inc42.com/buzz/insurancedekho-in-final-talks-to-pick-up-majority-stake-in-banksathi-report/ Inc 42] is the same as above. Same date, similar headline, and just more churnalism.

:::3. [https://web.archive.org/web/20230724084645/https://www.livemint.com/companies/start-ups/fintech-startup-banksathi-raises-200k-seed-funding-round-from-angel-investors-11621230431214.html Mint], questionable source but let's assume it is reliable. The article talks about funding and is routine, not meeting WP:CORPDEPTH. They also raised $200K which is not only insugnificant, but kind of embarassing for a company to report such a minor amount. If companies were notable for raising $200K, just about every company would qualify for a Wikipedia page.

:::4. [https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/banksathi-raises-200k-in-seed-round-from-angel-investors/article34579863.ece The Hindu Business Line], falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Is not bylined and clearly churnalism as it duplicates the announcement is reference 3 above.

:::5. [https://cxotoday.com/interviews/fostering-financial-literacy-by-banksathi/ CXO Today] is a blog with no editorial oversight. It is also an interview so not WP:INDEPENDENT. That aside, the opening prior to the Q&A is something that looks like it was provided directly by the company.

:::6. [https://www.cnbctv18.com/startup/startup-digest-meta-preparing-for-large-scale-layoffs-report-twitter-fires-over-90-pc-of-india-staff-report-upgrad-to-invest-30m-to-launch-10-global-campuses-15114191.htm CNBC TV 18], this is absolutely a routine announcement. The entire article is about things that took place on that day in the market. There are three paragraphs that discuss the company and it is just an announcement of adding languages. It is also churnalism as a search [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/sme-sector/kunal-shah-backed-banksathi-adds-3-indian-languages-to-bring-financial-inclusion-to-its-30-lakh-users/articleshow/95200349.cms?from=mdr found] [https://ibsintelligence.com/ibsi-news/banksathi-adds-3-indian-languages-to-bring-financial-inclusion-to-its-users/ all] [https://www.bizzbuzz.news/markets/banksathi-adds-3-languages-to-bring-financial-inclusion-to-its-30-lakh-users-1181086 these] [https://www.zeebiz.com/small-business/news-starup-banksathi-adds-3-more-regional-languages-to-break-barrier-in-financial-inclusion-205721 sources] which regurgitate the same announcement.

:::Unfortunately, these do not come near meeting WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:39, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

::@CNMall41Banksathi demonstrates potential notability through the operation of its financial product distribution platform and backing from investors such as Kotak Securities and Kunal Shah. The company has received coverage in prestigious sources including The Economic Times, Livemint and BusinessLine. To confirm notability according to WP:GNG, these sources should be examined to ensure that they provide independent, significant coverage beyond routine announcements. The company's large network of financial advisors suggests a significant presence in the fintech sector. Further analysis of the sources is necessary to determine whether they meet the criteria for reliable, independent coverage, and provide significant coverage of the topic. MH-wiki2025 (talk) 15:28, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

:::I did a full analysis of the sources, including the ones you supplied above. None of the sources I find (or that you presented) add up to significant coverage via WP:ORGCRIT. On a side note, can you show me in WP:NCORP where is notability is established by "the operation of its financial product distribution......?" That wording alone is promotional and looks like it came direct from the company. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

::::@CNMall41: Regarding WP:ORGCRIT, the article cites coverage from reputable financial news outlets like The Economic Times

::::(https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/entrepreneurship/fintech-firm-banksathi-raises-4-million-as-pre-series-a-round/articleshow/96847019.cms),

::::Livemint : (https://www.livemint.com/companies/start-ups/fintech-startup-banksathi-raises-200k-seed-funding-round-from-angel-investors-11621230431214.html),

::::The Times of India : (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/kotak-securities-invests-rs-5-cr-in-fintech-startup-banksathi/articleshow/96890438.cms),

::::and BusinessLine (https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/banksathi-raises-200k-in-seed-round-from-angel-investors/article34579863.ece), which provide substantial information on BankSathi's funding rounds, operational scope, and market position. Specifically, funding rounds involving investors like Kotak Securities, alongside coverage of their business model and market reach, contributes to demonstrating notability. For Example, the Economic times articles detail the funding rounds and the companies market position.

::::As to WP:NCORP, notability is established by significant coverage in reliable, independent sources, not solely by the nature of the company's operations. The phrase "financial product distribution" describes the company's core business, as confirmed by these independent sources. The wording is derived from information within the cited articles. The articles cited provide information about the companies core business, and funding, which are the primary drivers of notability. MH-wiki2025 (talk) 08:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::Disagree. I have never seen a company page kept at AfD simply for its financials. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:43, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::While I respect your experience, WP:ORGCRIT explicitly includes financial impact as a notability criterion. Therefore, dismissal based solely on that premise is inconsistent with the guideline MH-wiki2025 (talk) 11:44, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::MH-wiki2025, which line mentions that? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:22, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::::@Jeraxmoira🐉, WP:ORGCRIT states, 'The organization's products or services have had a significant and demonstrable impact on the economy...' Financial impact is a subset of economic impact. While the guideline doesn't use the explicit phrase 'financial impact,' it is implied within the economic impact criterion MH-wiki2025 (talk) 15:20, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::Nothing is implied here and you have just contradicted yourself. If you want to change the guideline to include "financial impact as a notability criterion", you should start a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Notability (organizations and companies). Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:34, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete: We only have interviews and sources about funding and acquisitions related to the subject. Nothing independent nor WP:SUBSTANTIAL about Banksathi anywhere. Existing sources fail the WP:SIRS check. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:41, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

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