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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bardo Corsi

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is enough concern that these aren't hoaxes that a deletion would not make sense given sources have been identified for some. If there are particular articles that remain problematic, they can be nominated for individual consideration. Star Mississippi 14:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

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Suspected hoaxes; see Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive333#House_of_Corsi_hoaxing. Sources do not mention the people at all. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • ETA: See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcos Corsi and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gislaine Corsi, hoaxes by the same editor. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:19, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment I can't see the text of the other deleted Corsi articles, but I don't think this one is fake. L'araldo almanacco nobiliare del napoletano (1878) mentions a Bardo Corsi who was made Marquess of Caiazzo in 1623. There is also an article (which I can't access) about the Corsi family and artistic patronage in the 1985 volume of I Tatti Studies, published by the Harvard University Center for Italian Renaissance Studies. Links at https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/L_araldo_almanacco_nobiliare_del_napolet/2dBMC8lpxdMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Bardo+Corsi+Caiazzo&pg=PA356&printsec=frontcover and https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/I_Tatti_Studies/wS_rAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Bardo+Corsi+Caiazzo&dq=Bardo+Corsi+Caiazzo&printsec=frontcover Atchom (talk) 19:21, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Another more recent source: "Bardo di Giovanni Corsi bought the viceroyal feud of Caiazzo, now a town in the Province of Caserta, becoming its marchese." In Vincenzo Sorrentino, A Patron Family Between Renaissance Florence, Rome, and Naples: The Del Riccio in the Shadow of Michelangelo (2022). Atchom (talk) 19:23, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • :And another mention in The Journal of European Economic History (1998): "Giovanni di Iacopo Corsi had been named to the Senate and his brother Bardo had obtained the title of Marchese di Caiazzo." Definitely not a hoax. Atchom (talk) 19:25, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • {{re|Atchom}} Most of the Corsi articles were made and/or edited by a known hoaxster. So if they are real, then WP:TNT may be in order. I just applied WP:DUCK since everything else by the same editor was a hoax. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, and Royalty and nobility. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 20:47, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep for now at least and then establish if individual articles are notable. [https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Orpheus_in_the_Marketplace/HeewAAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0 This book] about Jacopo Peri published by Harvard University Press extensively talks about Jacopo Corsi and others in the Corsi family. The following sources also mention Jacopo: [https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095640797] [https://archive.org/details/whoknewanswersto0000cuti/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22jacopo+Corsi%22] [https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780199764785/page/656/mode/2up?q=%22Jacopo+Corsi%22] [https://archive.org/details/classicalmytholo0000morf_p6e2/page/742/mode/2up?q=%22jacopo+Corsi%22] [https://archive.org/details/birthofoperafift0000rose_i4b5/page/2/mode/2up?q=%22jacopo+Corsi%22] [https://archive.org/details/lyricpoetrybywom0000coxv/page/392/mode/2up?q=%22jacopo+Corsi%22] [https://archive.org/details/concisehistoryof0000grif_b0o9/page/84/mode/2up?q=%22jacopo+Corsi%22] It doesn't look like a hoax to me but some listed may not meet notability - this can probably be sorted out later. Feel a bit bad for the guy accused of hoaxing. Vladimir.copic (talk) 00:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
  • :It does trouble me that the user was blocked for what seems to be at worst an excess of zeal in writing about more recent members of that particular family (and being an ESL speaker). Atchom (talk) 18:06, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep. Per above. Also, I hadn't noticed that this was a collective nomination of several articles. The article on Jacopo Corsi was created in 2005 and has an entry in Britannica... The more I look into this the more I think the blocked editor wasn't a hoaxster... Atchom (talk) 18:09, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.