Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle Girl

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No evidence of notability. I shall describe first the cited sources, and then what I found when I tried to find better sources.

The online references are very brief mentions, for that reason alone of no value for establishing notability, and they are also on niche web sites that don't seem to be significant sources. Here are descriptions of those sources:

• http://www.atarihq.com/jeo/jeo_0204.htm is a very amateurish-looking magazine page, which amongst other things includes an interview with someone unrelated to Battle Girl. In one of the questions the interviewer asks the interviewee if he has ever played Battle Girl. The interviewee gives a brief answer, in which he says that he has "heard of" the game, and thinks "the screen shots looked cool".
• http://www.insidemacgames.com/features/view.php?ID=379 is a forum-like list of readers' questions and answers to them. One three-sentence question is about Battle Girl, and there is a two-sentence answer to it. Essentially what it amounts to is Question: "Is there going to be a version of Battle Girl to run on OS X?" Answer: "No."
• http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ArticleID=3150 is a few sentences announcing announcement of release of two games, one of them Battle Girl, together with a couple of short quotes from the promotional material of the company producing those games.

The one other reference is a review in a magazine called "Next Generation". Unfortunately it does not appear to be available online (not surprisingly for a magazine that has been defunct for 17 years) nor can I find any other source anywhere that verifies that the quote given as coming from that magazine did appear in it. However, whatever it says, one review in a not particularly prominent magazine does not go very far towards establishing notability.

When I searched for sources I found download sites, software listing sites, a mention in a gaming forum, an amateur site which appears to provide nothing except screenshots of games (certainly that is all it provides for Battle Girl), this Wikipedia article, and so on. I didn't manage to find anything at all better than the cited sources.

Conclusion:There is no evidence that there is "significant coverage" in "multiple sources" (both quotes from Wikipedia:Notability). JamesBWatson (talk) 11:59, 22 June 2019 (UTC) JamesBWatson (talk) 11:59, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 12:23, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

• Keep - Next Generation (magazine) is considered a reliable source by WP:VG. Its [https://www.mobygames.com/game/battle-girl MobyGames] page indicates there are five more reviews which are not cited in the article yet, including ones in Mac Addict and Macworld, both of which I believe are also considered reliable by the wikiproject. BOZ (talk) 13:40, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
• Keep Nothing can be found in online searches about this one, and the nominator's assesment of the current sources is spot on. However, there seems to be some print reviews of the game that are more than a passing mention in reliable sources like Next Generation (magazine) [https://archive.org/details/NEXT_Generation_36/page/n175], MacWorld [https://archive.org/details/eu_Macworld-2000-09-INT_OCR/page/n129] and MacAddict [https://web.archive.org/web/20041101174234/http://www.macaddict.com/issues/9711/rev.battlegirl.html]. Checking the Moby reviews, Hot Games seems to be a straight unreliable, and there are "MacLedge" and "MacHome" reviews offered at [https://web.archive.org/web/19990427020816/www.macledge.com/Reviews/battle-girl/battle-girl.html] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20001002082232/http://database.machome.com/action.lasso?-database=reviews&-layout=search&-response=/reviews/detail.html&-recid=33607&-search] with unknown notability. I can sort of sympathize with the nominator considering almost all coverage comes from very specific platform oriented websites or magazines (and the game also released on Windows, so it's not exactly a Mac exclusive which would give it some significance). Leaning to Keep for now by barely meeting WP:GNG. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 00:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
• Comment Pinging {{u|JamesBWatson}} for a response on the new sources (mainly the first 3 I mentioned). Jovanmilic97 (talk) 00:12, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
• Keep per sources found above; appears to meet WP:GNG. --DannyS712 (talk) 10:30, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

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