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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Mangal (2nd nomination)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ but with prejudice against speedy renomination.

The keep !voters consider a source reliable, which the rest of us may have difficulty judging. Clearly the nominator is not alone in disagreeing. However, shenanigans in which content including sources got deleted from the article while AfD was in progress may have unduly altered people's evaluations of it and thus the course of this discussion. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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Extreme reliance on WP:RAJ sources, no reliable/good secondary sources. Noorullah (talk) 02:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Note to closer: All the sources from the page were removed by an editor while the AFD nom was in progress. It is an attempt to sabotage other's decision for voting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RangersRus (talk • contribs) 13:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

:And a simple look at the page's edit history confirms this. Thank you for pointing that out. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep. [https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.236219/page/23/mode/2up?q=Mangal General Hari Singh Nalwa 1791-1837 (1935)] is reliable and has worthwhile information on this battle. UnbiasedSN (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: Not one reliable source here. Closer, Autar Singh Sandhu's book was deprecated by an admin involved in SA topics in the RSN-[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1162791168 For example, (link to Sandhu's book) is likely an unacceptable source because of its age (1935), publisher, and lack of academic reviews and peer review articles written by its author (at least I didn't find any on a quick search.] There is only one book that can be traced back to Autar Singh Sandhu (which is cited here), and it was written in 1935, there is zero information available whatsoever on the author; on the extent of his academic credentials, tenure, educational posts, his bibliography etc. Given that AFDs are supposed to be based on merit and not enumerating votes, far less weight should be accorded to those who say Sandhu's General Hari Singh Nalwa is a RS, because it is undeniably not. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 11:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
  • :* Note to closer: This is the user who, previously mentioned, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Mangal&diff=prev&oldid=1224384768 removed] all the sources in an attempt to sabotage the voting process.
  • :UnbiasedSN (talk) 18:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.