Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Sarangpur

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Another "battle" article with only two lines of knowhow around the event: {{green|The two armies met in A.D. 1437 and after a severe engagement, the Sultan's army was utterly routed.}} It shouldn't have been in the mainspace to begin with. Shakakarta (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, and Madhya Pradesh. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:30, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

:I don't think so. The article includes adequate background, details, and aftermath section. It's also well-referenced. It shouldn't be deleted. Czar-peter-123 (talk) 09:21, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose- The battle is a significant event in medival Indian history as it started the the full scale war between two most powerful polities of that time. Aside of that it has significant coverage too in history books. The only think that it lacks is coverage on Wikipedia which I will be doing by tomorrow evening. Rawn3012 (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

::No source gives a detailed description of this 'Battle of Sarangpur'. Heraklios 14:00, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

• Keep – Clearly WP:NOTABLE historical event with multiple reliable sources. Even if anything is imperfect, we can still WP:PRESERVE it.Mithilanchalputra(Talk) 10:05, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Avoid WP:CRYSTALBALL argument. The page was standing for years but there was no improvement because there's nothing we can do to savour it. Some three lines of coverage don't help it to pass WP:GNG. Heraklios 14:13, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete: Per the nomination. Sources cited give a brief amount of coverage, not more than a small paragraph, the crux of the battle should be over a page. Also why's there flag of Delhi Sultanate used for Malwa Sultanate? Heraklios 14:01, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep - Passes WP:GNG, SIGCOV exists in the sources (Mankekar, D. r (1976) U.N Day (1978) Hooja, Rima (2006)) this is a chain of nominations made within minutes of one another and complete falls afoul of WP:BEFORE. CharlesWain (talk) 14:37, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Baseless aspersions. The sources you have given don't go beyond a few lines of passing mentions:
• :*[https://books.google.co.in/books?redir_esc=y&id=IBMdAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Sarangpur+ Day]: Passing mentions, even the author de-legitimated it with "So called" prefix.
• :*[https://books.google.com/books?id=qqd1RAAACAAJ&q=rima%20hooja%20rajasthan Hooja]: "The armies of Mewar and Malwa clashed at Sarangpur in 1437. The latter army was conclusively routed here." - That's it.
• :*[https://books.google.co.in/books?redir_esc=y&id=01RuAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=sarangpur]: Not accessible, no sign of coverage either.
• :*[https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.130482/page/n39/mode/1up Mankekar]: "The engagement that followed saw Mohmad Khilji routed" - That's it.
• :Har Bilas is an unreliable source, now prove me wrong by citing a source covering the battle for at least 2 paragraphs. Shakakarta (talk) 10:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::how is har bilas unreliable source? Aryanisking (talk) 18:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep : @Shakakarta, @Heraklios and @Rawn3012 This is one of the most important battles of 15th century in northern India. The sultan himself being captured by Kumbha forces—an event that highlights the importance of this article. Many notable (WP:RS) sources cover this event. Though there is scope for improvement of article by addition of information from reliable sources, there is no such need for deletion. Check these sources, they cover the battle in more detail; [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Medieval_Malwa/RaY9AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0] and [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/War_Strategy_of_Maharana_Pratap/01RuAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0] though preview is limited. You could use Sarangpur/1437/etc. in search option to look for this battle. I had offline copies in library but School is closed due to summer vacations. Someone can improve the article based on the info available in the books if they have it online. I have already asked Rawn for it as he often edit articles related to history of Mewar. Mohammad Umar Ali (talk) 20:50, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

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