Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill gates harvard commencement speech 2007

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The result was delete. MelanieN (talk) 01:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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Bill Gates has delivered many speeches over the years. There is no reason to think this particular speech of his is sufficiently noteworthy to deserve an article to itself. Contested PROD. SJK (talk) 11:55, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete Nothing about this speech justifies it having its own article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:37, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep - Here a couple sources that single speech out as exceptional: [http://www.rightattitudes.com/2010/05/04/three-great-commencement-speeches/], [http://apps.npr.org/commencement/speech/bill-gates-harvard-university-2007/]. ~Kvng (talk) 14:14, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete Commencement speeches by well-known figures usually generate routine coverage, but there's no evidence this is anything more than that. Smartyllama (talk) 16:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  11:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Yellow Dingo (talk) 12:18, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete - I had no idea we even had articles on speeches .... Anyway no evidence of notability, Fails GNG. –Davey2010Talk 12:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

::I hate to be glib, but I couldn't resist. Here are some articles on speeches: I Have a Dream, Gettysburg Address, We shall fight on the beaches, This was their finest hour, etc. Granted, these have historical import, and are not commencement addresses. MisterRandomized (talk) 08:49, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

:::I think the vast majority of speeches are insufficiently notable for a standalone article. That is true even for highly notable figures like Abraham Lincoln or Winston Churchill. How many speeches did Lincoln or Churchill each deliver over their respective careers? Many dozens, probably hundreds. How many of those are notable enough for a standalone article? A handful at best. So, even when spoken by especially notable persons, the vast majority of speeches are not notable enough for a standalone article. That suggests the notability bar for speeches is quite high – and a handful of sources mentioning this speech is not enough to bring it over the bar. Also, I think this speech was given less than ten years ago; it is too early to say whether it has lasting historical significance. Churchill's and Lincoln's speeches are old enough now that we can answer that question. For this speech, come back in a few decades and ask the question again then. SJK (talk) 09:19, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

::WP:GNG simply requires significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. You acknowledge coverage but claim it fails WP:GNG. What is it about the coverage that makes it fail in your opinion? ~Kvng (talk) 14:28, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete The NPR mention is insubstantial, and the "Right Attitudes" is some guy's blog and lacks editorial oversight. The other mentions I found were also bloggers or WP:ROUTINE coverage simply noting the existence of said speech. I'm sure he is a great guy, he appears to be a philanthropist. MisterRandomized (talk) 08:49, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

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